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Altamonte Springs, FL

#1 May 26, 2012
Be prepare store managers will be taking up to $20,000 pay cut. Not sure when but is coming
ThrobbingWag

Maryville, TN

#2 May 26, 2012
The average store manager makes $65,000-80,000 with bonus. I'm not saying I would be happy taking a $20,000 a year paycut if I were them, but they would still be better off given how more posh their positions are than other positions in the store.

Sucks for them, and I'm still convinced we're moving towards a more CVS-like model where they don't even have true assistant managers and that the ASM will be re-branded as "co-manager" in a couple years with the SM position being phased out as well.

Since: Jan 12

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#3 May 26, 2012
ThrobbingWag wrote:
The average store manager makes $65,000-80,000 with bonus. I'm not saying I would be happy taking a $20,000 a year paycut if I were them, but they would still be better off given how more posh their positions are than other positions in the store.
Sucks for them, and I'm still convinced we're moving towards a more CVS-like model where they don't even have true assistant managers and that the ASM will be re-branded as "co-manager" in a couple years with the SM position being phased out as well.
Sounds like the only "SAFE" position is the EXA or am I reading things incorrectly?
ThrobbingWag

Maryville, TN

#4 May 26, 2012
Good2 wrote:
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Sounds like the only "SAFE" position is the EXA or am I reading things incorrectly?
Don't accept what I say dogmatically. It's educated speculation on my part.

From the best I can gather, the current EXA position right now will be going through conversions. In a sense, yes it's safe, but I would expect 'some' competition for co-manager positions from the current store managers. If their positions get slashed and they apply for co-manager, then an applicant who was a store manager would look more qualified than an EXA.
Pop

Lakewood, NJ

#5 May 26, 2012
Holy hell. FIRE the DM RX TRIANER AND LP ALREADY and then these useless "market" people cutting store positions DOES NOTHING TO OFFSET A LOSS
oh wait we need all them to manage everything when we have an exa and newly created positons running a store.
i hate this place, please god close the company down
Really

Avoca, NY

#6 May 26, 2012
Good2 wrote:
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Sounds like the only "SAFE" position is the EXA or am I reading things incorrectly?
If the SM if forced to step down then it would mean everyone below them would move down or out. I'm sure they will go through and clean house and get rid of any Mgrs not cutting it. Just remember big brother is always watching even though we are not always aware of it. Just when you think someone can and does get away with anything they come in and escort them out.
Really

Avoca, NY

#7 May 26, 2012
Pop wrote:
Holy hell. FIRE the DM RX TRIANER AND LP ALREADY and then these useless "market" people cutting store positions DOES NOTHING TO OFFSET A LOSS
oh wait we need all them to manage everything when we have an exa and newly created positons running a store.
i hate this place, please god close the company down
Is it possible that when all of these changes go into effect they will cut district staff like they did four years ago. When teh STL is phased out they no longer have a need for a district trainer. The DM and the RX supervisior will be phase into one position and the LP will will be more of regional position.
pop

Lakewood, NJ

#8 May 26, 2012
none of these jobs are needed anymore. and havent been for years.
that is what kills expense and salaries, "higher ups". eliminate every district and go 2 for 1 and ALL market jobs GONE

Since: Mar 12

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#9 May 26, 2012
Makes sense. Cut sm pay and the in a few years cut the position and do what they are doing with mgts now. I think this company is beyond repair. Sad sad time but wasson and Wagner will reap the rewards while the company folds. Hard to be an assistant (asm) when there isn't a store manager. Makes no sense but most decisions over the past few yrs don't anyway. Can sit and worry or just do your job and see what happens

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#10 May 26, 2012
But they will not be cutting sm pay $20 k. That would make them lower than exa now. But a cut is expected.
MGT LEAVING WAG

Saint Paul, MN

#11 May 26, 2012
I get a chuckle reading all the comments on this forum....Why does everyone even care anymore..Don't you see the spray painting on the wall it says, "We used MGMT in the stores to get what we needed, and paid okay for years....we don't want you, we don't need you, and our strategy was flawed for the past 3 years, and we will not be able to pay even half of store salaries in the next 10 years...WAG is still very profitable, but will be an extinct T-Rex within 12 to 15 years...WAG has been cornered by Walmart, ESI, and employer plans/gov't plans that want to control sky rocketing healthcare costs.----"Remember Best Buy was the most admired retailer in 2004, 2005, and 2006---where are they headed!!!

Since: Jan 12

United States

#12 May 26, 2012
The funny thing is that SMs are in major denial is regards to this. They actually feel they will not be touched, let alone train their upcoming replacements.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#13 May 26, 2012
A lot of SM's feel that some sort of salary cap will be instituted with the new compensation package but they won't actually lose any money. Basically, they just won't be eligible for a raise any more.

Obviously, WAG has had no qualms about cutting pay in the past so I'm not sure I agree with the SM's I've talked to.

Basically everyone expects the bonus structure to be a LOT less lucrative after the transformation. Most people except a larger portion of whatever bonus is left over will go to the ASM. This is how WAG will justify the $40k salary for that position.
CONNECTED EXA

Saint Paul, MN

#14 May 26, 2012
Store managers are in denial, because for years the company has created a strange culture that only the chosen few are capable of leading and managing our stores. When in fact managing a WAG is easier than running most retail operations....Why??? Its a small footprint store with basic hours of operations, no real fresh food, and merchandise that needs no hard selling. The pay to run a WAG should be no more than $45,000 plus a bonus of $7,000 if most goals are met. The RXM should be required to work 50 hours a week to keep the $$ they make too...
CaliManager

Ontario, CA

#15 May 26, 2012
You all sound like a bunch of f***in' haters! Hating on the fact that you never made it to SM level. Sure, managers will see some sort of cut... Worst case scenario, if they do "eliminate" SM position (probably in five years or less) it will be an opportunity for the company to get rid of both the bad EXA's and bad SM's. I can guarantee that there are many more better SM's than EXA's. What does that mean? It means that those SM's the company decides to keep will be stepping down to the Co-Mgr position that you all seem to know so much about. Guess you all must have connections at corporate. If you truly are the best of the best, like so many of u claim to be, then you should have no reason to worry because you can succeed anywhere. My advice to you is stop worrying about what the company is doing to you, and start thinking about what you can do for yourself.

Since: Jan 12

United States

#16 May 26, 2012
CaliManager wrote:
You all sound like a bunch of f***in' haters! Hating on the fact that you never made it to SM level. Sure, managers will see some sort of cut... Worst case scenario, if they do "eliminate" SM position (probably in five years or less) it will be an opportunity for the company to get rid of both the bad EXA's and bad SM's. I can guarantee that there are many more better SM's than EXA's. What does that mean? It means that those SM's the company decides to keep will be stepping down to the Co-Mgr position that you all seem to know so much about. Guess you all must have connections at corporate. If you truly are the best of the best, like so many of u claim to be, then you should have no reason to worry because you can succeed anywhere. My advice to you is stop worrying about what the company is doing to you, and start thinking about what you can do for yourself.
Why are you even on this forum? We are here to share information on what we know. If you are mad about the information, or are finding it a thorn in your side, then why even post at all? This isnt about getting rid of bad exas or SM this is about, above all else: TO CUT EXPENSES. Doesn't matter how good you are, if they see they can save a buck by cutting the "desk jockeys" (as corporate refers to you as) then they will. This is no longer the same company you started at.
CaliManager

Ontario, CA

#17 May 26, 2012
MGTSF, why the f**k are you on this forum??? All u do is bitch and complain that you are quitting the moment you can find a better job! I'm on here because I plan on sticking around and because I find it comical to read some of this stuff... U sure seem to bud in a lot for not planning on sticking around. Does it make u feel better that someone is actually listening to you? Just do us all a favor and quit already! We could use the savings in payroll. Besides, odds are we could promote an HPS that will probably outperform you and definitely bitch less than u. Be grateful u still have a job... Millions of people on the job market would love to take ur position.:)
CONNECTED EXA

Saint Paul, MN

#18 May 26, 2012
Calimanager you are an idiot. You will nver be a to stay with the WAG as a MGR. Unless you get promoted to CL or are willing to take a $25,000 pary cut to be a co-manager you are finished with the company.

Get a life you are nothing special, just an idiot that drank too much WAG kool-aid.. LOL...LMFAO
CaliManager

Bellflower, CA

#19 May 26, 2012
Wow! Connected EXA, from the looks of your grammar I can tell you'll be one of the EXA's who won't survive this process. Actually, it all makes sense now. You must have had some sort of connection to make it to EXA. And before you decide to call anyone an idiot, learn to spell douchebag!:)
eyeontheprize

Milwaukee, WI

#20 May 26, 2012
CaliManager wrote:
Wow! Connected EXA, from the looks of your grammar I can tell you'll be one of the EXA's who won't survive this process. Actually, it all makes sense now. You must have had some sort of connection to make it to EXA. And before you decide to call anyone an idiot, learn to spell douchebag!:)
Before on your post above the guy you commented about, you spelled but has bud, maybe you need a lesson in grammar, or at least take some anger management classes, because your have some issues that can probably be dealt with on another forum, but not here!

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