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Why we count: There's a lot at stake in census

There are 79 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 8, 2010, titled Why we count: There's a lot at stake in census. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Never before has the government pushed so hard to count every man, woman and child in the country.

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EqualRights

AOL

#47 Mar 9, 2010
Adam wrote:
<quoted text> So, are you saying that you have access to census results?
Only for the census years that have been released. Census results are sealed for 72 years. The last census released was the 1930; the 1940 will be released in 2012.
EqualRights

AOL

#48 Mar 9, 2010
Adam wrote:
<quoted text> Please back this up with some facts. I don't see anything pertaining to this in the constitution. It states that the government can count the citizens once every 10 years.
See this link: http://2010.census.gov/2010census/why/constit...
Karen in California

Canyon Country, CA

#49 Mar 9, 2010
EqualRights wrote:
<quoted text> Only for the census years that have been released. Census results are sealed for 72 years. The last census released was the 1930; the 1940 will be released in 2012.
Get real.
The US Census is not sealed for 72 years.

Anyone can get read latest census results.
Just go to US Census, online.

The last census was in 2000, ten years ago, here is the link to the results, not sealed, for everyone to read:
http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/...
EqualRights

AOL

#50 Mar 9, 2010
Not as Delusional as You wrote:
<quoted text>Number of people in the household, race(if you want for affirmative action purposes, but not necessary), what more is really necessary than that? The more data collected, the more it can be used against us by marketers, corporations, etc. under the freedom of information act.
Again, individual data/facts are sealed for 72 years. Until then, the only data released are statistical compilations, which in no way compromises your privacy. In fact, census workers take an oath NOT to release census data and violations carry significant Federal penalties.
plopsdad

United States

#51 Mar 9, 2010
Karen in California wrote:
<quoted text>Get real.
The US Census is not sealed for 72 years.
Anyone can get read latest census results.
Just go to US Census, online.
The last census was in 2000, ten years ago, here is the link to the results, not sealed, for everyone to read:
http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/...
I think you misunderstood him. My wife is into family history so i know a little about this. General population stats are almost always available, but actual names and addresses are not , for, what i thought was a period of 60 years but i could be wrong.
Porkulus

Monroe, LA

#52 Mar 9, 2010
Typical government efficiency. I got a letter yesterday informing me that I would be getting a letter.

WHY is money being spent to announce the next mailing?

"The U.S. Census Bureau has launched an unprecedented $340 million campaign to encourage participation in the 2010 count of an estimated 308 million people."

why not just pay everyone a million each to come say hello to barry at the white house?

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Olathe, KS

#53 Mar 9, 2010
mnhusker wrote:
Dems should come up with a plan to give poor people and immigrants money for completing the census. Or how about this? Instead of wasting all this money for commercials, give anyone who completes the census a check for $50. Almost everyone will complete it then.
I'd complete 2!
Tsiknus

Saint Paul, MN

#54 Mar 9, 2010
Not as Delusional as You wrote:
<quoted text>Many purposes including selling the data to mailing and phone list companies for marketing purposes, demographic information so bulk mailers can target their mailings by income, household size and make-up, etc. Personal data(income, religious affiliation, etc.) should not be required.
Number of people in the household, race(if you want for affirmative action purposes, but not necessary), what more is really necessary than that? The more data collected, the more it can be used against us by marketers, corporations, etc. under the freedom of information act.
How else will the USPS survive?
Cowboy

Minneapolis, MN

#55 Mar 9, 2010
How many different languages will this boondoggle have to be printed in? And if one doesn't fill in the financial information, will the IRS come knocking? Just wondering.
where da jobs

Monroe, LA

#56 Mar 9, 2010
Businesses shed another 36,000 jobs during February, the latest jobs report shows, but the unemployment rate remained flat at 9.7%. This, say Democrats in Washington, is a positive sign.

"Only 36,000 lost their jobs today," crowed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, as if losing thousands of jobs was an achievement.

We're sad to say, the picture is even worse than it appears.

Take that "only 36,000" figure. The real number is actually 51,000 jobs lost, because the government counts 15,000 temporary workers hired by the Census as new jobs. But these jobs aren't, in any meaningful sense, real full-time jobs.

Would things have been better without all the snow? Undoubtedly. But we still would have lost jobs.

Then of course there's the very definition of unemployment.

If you count those who are discouraged or working part-time when they want a full-time job, the jobless rate soars to 16.8%.

Private sector employment gauges pretty much show the same thing. For instance, the pollsters at Gallup each month ask Americans questions about their employment. In February, the Gallup report shows, some 19.8% of Americans reported that they were underemployed or not employed at all.
Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#57 Mar 9, 2010
Maybe if we don't fill them out we'll have fewer politicians. Isn't that a heart-warming thought.
EqualRights

AOL

#58 Mar 9, 2010
plopsdad wrote:
<quoted text>I think you misunderstood him. My wife is into family history so i know a little about this. General population stats are almost always available, but actual names and addresses are not , for, what i thought was a period of 60 years but i could be wrong.
plopsdad...By law the census is sealed for 72 years. How anyone thinks that the release of general population statistics and compilations is going to compromise privacy is beyond me. Names, addresses, etc. are sealed for 72 years...period...and no about tin foil conspiracy theories is going to change that fact.

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Olathe, KS

#59 Mar 9, 2010
Porkulus wrote:
Typical government efficiency. I got a letter yesterday informing me that I would be getting a letter.
WHY is money being spent to announce the next mailing?
"The U.S. Census Bureau has launched an unprecedented $340 million campaign to encourage participation in the 2010 count of an estimated 308 million people."
why not just pay everyone a million each to come say hello to barry at the white house?
$340 mil/300 mil people =$1.40 each, not $1,000,000 each.
Walter M

Saint Paul, MN

#60 Mar 9, 2010
When I did family history, I went to the library and through hours and hours of census tapes. This was twenty years ago and the latest tapes available were those of the 1920 census. Alas, the 1890 census was destroyed in a fire in St. Louis in the 1960s. The information you give the census in 2010 is PRIVATE and not released for 70 years except for statistical numbers. Okey, I'll buy 72. Know the facts before you make your views known.

JTY

Since: Sep 08

Olathe, KS

#61 Mar 9, 2010
JTY wrote:
<quoted text>
$340 mil/300 mil people =$1.40 each, not $1,000,000 each.
ops, math is hard.$1.13 each.
Hockey fan

Saint Paul, MN

#62 Mar 9, 2010
I agree with all they need to know is how many people in the house. Why is race or occupation or salary needed? Gee I wonder! We were one of the chosen ones to get the "long" form several months ago. We ignored it for a long time, received several calls, were sent another one so we put how many people and that is it. They called again and were pretty nasty. We told them that it was none of their business about the rest and they should have what they need. They wanted to know the size of our house, how many bedroom, bathrooms, etc...I'm sorry, this is NOT needed.

Since: Apr 09

St. Paul, Minnesota

#63 Mar 9, 2010
Projected cost of the 2010 Census so far is $14.7 BILLION. I know it's mandated by the Constitution, I just think this amount is ludicrous.
Wizconie

Amery, WI

#64 Mar 9, 2010
MN lose a house seat? After electing Al Franken i think MN should lose a Senate seat too.
Walter M

Saint Paul, MN

#65 Mar 9, 2010
Until 1976 in Saudi Arabia no birth certificates were issued for children born in the kingdom. Since the prophet Mohammed's birthday was unknown, none of his followers would know theirs either. But now it is the law that births be recorded, because to govern a modern state statistics are necessary. Just like our census. For example, how many schools are needed, textbooks printed, teachers to train, etc. Knowing the demographics of a country is necessary for so many things. Do you duty and answer what you are asked to do.
sisyphus

Gilbert, AZ

#66 Mar 9, 2010
I think the notice letter was of some value. Otherwise how would I know that the purpose of the census was the distrbution of wealth. Certainly that subject has never been voiced before. Oh wait, didn't Omugabe mention something about that in his conversation with Joe the Plumber?

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