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Why we count: There's a lot at stake in census

There are 79 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 8, 2010, titled Why we count: There's a lot at stake in census. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Never before has the government pushed so hard to count every man, woman and child in the country.

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An average citizen

La Crosse, WI

#25 Mar 9, 2010
Sounds like most of you still do not understand the Census Bureau statistics. To the ones who are not going to fill out the form, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Census data benefits YOU! It is used for many purposes including, having a library in your community, your police and fire protection, schools, teachers, etc. Also, if you do not mail the form someone will be sent to your address for follow up. That will be more costly than if you just drop the form in the mail. Do you really think you should receive pay for filling out this form? It is your duty as an American citizen. Also, this is not a political thing. Has nothing to do with Dems or Rep. Check your facts before making comments.
Slim

United States

#26 Mar 9, 2010
How much did you spend on your tinfoil hat?

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#27 Mar 9, 2010
Lookin In wrote:
<quoted text>How much did it cost to send the nice letter telling me that the census is coming soon?
A new,shiny 45ft. diesel motorhome with custom 'U.S. CENSUS' graphics made an all-day stop at a predominantly-Vietnamese area in my county; free food/interpreters/t-shirts/can vas tote bags/toys for the kiddies.
Leprechaun

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Mar 9, 2010
Typical government BS. We definitely need to take the census - no argument. BUT.... yesterday get a letter from the Census Bureau telling me that nest week I'll be getting a letter from the Census Bureau. In this article they're handing out footballs - for what????
Next we'll be paying people to fill out a four question form.( I know there are more than four questions, but they really only have the right to require answers to four questions!).

These government hacks just do not get it. Millions wasted in prizes, additional mailings, and other BS, when the country is OUT OF MONEY! I suppose stimulus checks will be sent out to early filers.

These folks have a budget and dammit they're going to spend every penny. Then they'll probably tell us that there wasn't enough money, so they missed some illegals in SW Missouri and we should do it over.

I'm at the point where I can hardly read the paper anymore. My blood pressure is sky rocketing and I can't afford another trip to the doctor.
Goethe

South Saint Paul, MN

#29 Mar 9, 2010
An average citizen wrote:
Sounds like most of you still do not understand the Census Bureau statistics. To the ones who are not going to fill out the form, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Census data benefits YOU! It is used for many purposes including, having a library in your community, your police and fire protection, schools, teachers, etc. Also, if you do not mail the form someone will be sent to your address for follow up. That will be more costly than if you just drop the form in the mail. Do you really think you should receive pay for filling out this form? It is your duty as an American citizen. Also, this is not a political thing. Has nothing to do with Dems or Rep. Check your facts before making comments.
Yet another television watching idiot.
Goethe

South Saint Paul, MN

#30 Mar 9, 2010
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
EqualRights

AOL

#31 Mar 9, 2010
Former McDowell Resident wrote:
How do they have the authority to ask anything other than how many people live in each residence? That's all the constitution calls for.
The Constitution gives Congress the sole Sonstitutional authority to determine what questions are to be asked for the census. So whatever questions are asked are allowable under the Constitution. Federal law, by the way, requires that Congress approve the census questions AT LEAST 2 years before the census, so the 2010 questions were approved during the Bush administration.
Error America

Saint Paul, MN

#32 Mar 9, 2010
jgb wrote:
<quoted text>May I suggest that you call your reps and support the new Federal I.D. card bill. It will be VERY hard to falsify by acorn.
Good advice for ALL readers here. I've done exactly that over and over again. And yet, the bills introduced in the state and federal govt entities are either voted down or not even considered. Sad but we have to show id to get a movie but not to vote. When is common sense going to come back to America?
EqualRights

AOL

#33 Mar 9, 2010
Error America wrote:
How about this, YOU NEED TO PROVE WHO YOU ARE AND THAT YOU ARE HERE LEGALLY TO BE COUNTED AND VOTE. But the democrats will NOT allow that to happen. Reason? Duh, they can count on getting many illegals and "others" to vote more than once, or in this case, count as many as you can, illegal or not.
Some of you folks must be just dumb. As a genealogist, I work with census data every day. And it is a provable fact that in prior censuses, ALL people were counted, REGARDLESS of citizenship status. In fact, the Constitution DOES NOT limit the enumeration to just citizens. So if you don't like it, change the Constitution.
Adam

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Mar 9, 2010
EqualRights wrote:
<quoted text> The Constitution gives Congress the sole Sonstitutional authority to determine what questions are to be asked for the census. So whatever questions are asked are allowable under the Constitution. Federal law, by the way, requires that Congress approve the census questions AT LEAST 2 years before the census, so the 2010 questions were approved during the Bush administration.
Please back this up with some facts. I don't see anything pertaining to this in the constitution. It states that the government can count the citizens once every 10 years.
Adam

Saint Paul, MN

#36 Mar 9, 2010
EqualRights wrote:
<quoted text> Some of you folks must be just dumb. As a genealogist, I work with census data every day. And it is a provable fact that in prior censuses, ALL people were counted, REGARDLESS of citizenship status. In fact, the Constitution DOES NOT limit the enumeration to just citizens. So if you don't like it, change the Constitution.
So, are you saying that you have access to census results?
Aleut

Saint Paul, MN

#37 Mar 9, 2010
I always ientify myself as an Aleut Eskimo on the census form.
Conservative observations

Saint Paul, MN

#38 Mar 9, 2010
Taking the census every ten years is necessary and appropriate for many reason including the number of members of Congress each state will have. Not surprisingly, the paranoid right wing nuts get all worked up about the matter thinking that it is some kind of effort to take away their first born, the guns, their dogs, their teeth, and so on. Kind of amusing to read the paranoid offerings.
Adam

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Mar 9, 2010
Conservative observations wrote:
Taking the census every ten years is necessary and appropriate for many reason including the number of members of Congress each state will have. Not surprisingly, the paranoid right wing nuts get all worked up about the matter thinking that it is some kind of effort to take away their first born, the guns, their dogs, their teeth, and so on. Kind of amusing to read the paranoid offerings.
Yes, there are many additional uses for the census - such as tracking down draft dodgers or zoning violators. And it really came in handy as a tool for finding all of those Japanese-Americans during WW2 so we could move them to camps...
An average citizen

La Crosse, WI

#41 Mar 9, 2010
Goethe wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet another television watching idiot.
How do you come up with this conclusion? You people are even more stupid than I originally thought you were. Someone tries to teach you something and you have to come up with some moronic statement. I really thought you people in the Twin Cities were smarter than this!

Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#42 Mar 9, 2010
I got a letter indicating that in one week my census form was coming. How nice.

What I want to know is, where was my one-week notice that my one-week notice was coming??

Seriously was that mailing REALLY necessary?? And what really gets me is the government never does anything without having 20 meetings about if first. Which means numerous times two or more govt employees got together to discuss the letter, work out wording, whatever....and never during any of those meetings did someone thing to ask "Heh, are these really necessary??"

Since: Apr 09

Twin Cities

#43 Mar 9, 2010
I am going to have to agree for once with the right wing-nuts who are posting here. I am having a real conflict with filling out my census. On one hand, I understand civic duty and the benefits our stste receives for proper counts, but on the other hand, one of our congressional reps has advised us not to fill it out. If we take Bachman's advice and refuse to fill it out, the most likely outcome would be a loss of HER congressional seat, which many of us feel would be a bigger benefit for MN.
Oh, what to do.......?
Not as Delusional as You

Burnsville, MN

#44 Mar 9, 2010
An average citizen wrote:
Sounds like most of you still do not understand the Census Bureau statistics. To the ones who are not going to fill out the form, you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Census data benefits YOU! It is used for many purposes
Many purposes including selling the data to mailing and phone list companies for marketing purposes, demographic information so bulk mailers can target their mailings by income, household size and make-up, etc. Personal data(income, religious affiliation, etc.) should not be required.

Number of people in the household, race(if you want for affirmative action purposes, but not necessary), what more is really necessary than that? The more data collected, the more it can be used against us by marketers, corporations, etc. under the freedom of information act.
Walter M

Saint Paul, MN

#45 Mar 9, 2010
I have used the federal censuses from 1860 through 1920 extensively for researching family history, finding family members I never knew existed. The census is invaluable and the data kept under wraps for seventy years, so what you tell the census now is private for years to come. By all means be counted, as your grandchildren may appreciate it.
Tony Rozycki

AOL

#46 Mar 9, 2010
The more the census is tied to free money, the more the temptation to cheat.

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