Iraq seven years later: Was the war w...

Iraq seven years later: Was the war worth it?

There are 118 comments on the Detroit Free Press story from Aug 26, 2010, titled Iraq seven years later: Was the war worth it?. In it, Detroit Free Press reports that:

It was a way to show the government cared. About 100 families of slain policemen and other victims of insurgent attacks gathered in an auditorium to receive packages of food from the local government.

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#103 Oct 11, 2010
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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It is only unique in your mind, because you refuse -- except for brief moments -- to seriously consider the great historic and contemporary similarities to mant other situations (only a few of which I have mentioned). Perhaps it's your "manifest destiny" to single out the Jewish people for your criticism. Be well.
Manifest destiny is bunk and your analogy is, at best, vaguely approximate, but I can think of no group that displaced local residents claiming divine right but exercising it under the aegis of a third party colonial power. It is not a matter there being religion involved, it is a matter of one group displacing another by the claim of divine right.

Feel free to try again, but Jordan is not analogous.

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#104 Oct 11, 2010
scout wrote:
Our marxist rulers secured Iraqi oil,installed a puppet gov, and is not set up for Iranian invasion to 'recover' Iranian oil.
The orwellian rulers are very smug, and thank the IDIOT AMERICAN VOTERS!
Please name one American politician who holds office and is a Marxist. Please give some specific evidence from this person's writings, speeches, or other sources to support your accusation.
Secede to Succeed

Bronx, NY

#105 Oct 16, 2010
laojim wrote:
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Please name one American politician who holds office and is a Marxist. Please give some specific evidence from this person's writings, speeches, or other sources to support your accusation.
Political correctness is Marxist. So is totalitarian humanism. Both are the dogmas enforced by the scum in DC.
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Card Carrying Zionist

Los Angeles, CA

#106 Oct 16, 2010
laojim wrote:
Manifest destiny is bunk and your analogy is, at best, vaguely approximate, but I can think of no group that displaced local residents claiming divine right but exercising it under the aegis of a third party colonial power. It is not a matter there being religion involved, it is a matter of one group displacing another by the claim of divine right. Feel free to try again, but Jordan is not analogous.
The "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" was created by that "third party colonial power", Great Britain. The religious rationale included the Hashemites being the traditional caretakers of the Islamic holy sites, including the Dome of the Rock. The Hashemite occupiers killed thousands of Palestinian Arabs during the war beginning in September 1970 ("Black September"), then displaced thousands more to Lebanon.

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#107 Oct 17, 2010
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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The "Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" was created by that "third party colonial power", Great Britain. The religious rationale included the Hashemites being the traditional caretakers of the Islamic holy sites, including the Dome of the Rock. The Hashemite occupiers killed thousands of Palestinian Arabs during the war beginning in September 1970 ("Black September"), then displaced thousands more to Lebanon.
Exactly. You argument fails because this was a "traditional," which is to say, a long standing arrangement not based on anything in particular. There is no passage in the Koran or any other sacred book, which is the basis of the Israeli claim. The conflict you site is irrelevant simply because any number of people get entangled in any number of wars for no good reason.

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#108 Oct 17, 2010
Secede to Succeed wrote:
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Political correctness is Marxist. So is totalitarian humanism. Both are the dogmas enforced by the scum in DC.
www.secessionnews.com
The term "political correctness" emerged only a decade or so ago and has no Marxist heritage. It was coined by people who thought that certain locutions were being forced upon them. It was taken up by people who wish to justify their own use of racist or other prejudicial speech. If you insist on calling a pet a companion animal that may be political correctness. If you insist on not referring to Jews as Yids that is entirely a different manner.

There is no such thing as "totalitarian humanism." If you run a google search you will find among the trillions of entries precisely two hits for that phrase. One is by Keith Preston who may have coined it and the other is on a neonazi site. Which one do you prefer?

One notes, finally, that you refer to the lawfully elected representatives of the people of the United States of America as "the scum in DC." Since you misuse the term you claim to be writing about and then misuse Preston's neologism I can only conclude that you don't know what you are talking about and are an unamerican fellow.
Card Carrying Zionist

Los Angeles, CA

#109 Oct 17, 2010
laojim wrote:
Exactly. You argument fails because this was a "traditional," which is to say, a long standing arrangement not based on anything in particular. There is no passage in the Koran or any other sacred book, which is the basis of the Israeli claim. The conflict you site is irrelevant simply because any number of people get entangled in any number of wars for no good reason.
Tell the Palestinian Arabs whose family and neighbors died at the hands of the Hashemites and those who were denied self-government and expelled from their homeland that the cause of their suffering is irrelevant because it seved the purposes of a minority hereditary regime that was imposed upon them by the British Empire for the sake of political convenience. Tell them that their suffering is irrelevant, except when it supposedly comes at the hands of a Jewish government. But if a fellow Arab government oppresses them, your great compassion for them turns to stone. All because you want to single out the one Jewish country in the world for your hatred.

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#110 Oct 17, 2010
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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Tell the Palestinian Arabs whose family and neighbors died at the hands of the Hashemites and those who were denied self-government and expelled from their homeland that the cause of their suffering is irrelevant because it seved the purposes of a minority hereditary regime that was imposed upon them by the British Empire for the sake of political convenience. Tell them that their suffering is irrelevant, except when it supposedly comes at the hands of a Jewish government. But if a fellow Arab government oppresses them, your great compassion for them turns to stone. All because you want to single out the one Jewish country in the world for your hatred.
You are trying to justify the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians by drawing some specious parallel to the Hashemites and then trying to blame me for not reacting as you imagine I should to your bad example. Won't work.

Jews from all over moved in to Israel and more recenly to the west bank where they built fortified housing surrounded by a wall on the lands that belonged to others. At the same time they confine millions to a blockaded ghetto and bomb them. You can squirm and wriggle but you can't get away from it. It is a scandal that cries out to heaven and you cannot justify it by pointing to some other group and saying, "Oh, look! They are bad too!"

You are becoming tedious with your excuses.

Since: Jun 10

indiana

#111 Oct 23, 2010
NOT WORTH IT.Never will be!Can we please take care of our OWN
Card Carrying Zionist

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#112 Oct 23, 2010
laojim wrote:
You are trying to justify the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians by drawing some specious parallel to the Hashemites and then trying to blame me for not reacting as you imagine I should to your bad example. Won't work. Jews from all over moved in to Israel and more recenly to the west bank where they built fortified housing surrounded by a wall on the lands that belonged to others. At the same time they confine millions to a blockaded ghetto and bomb them. You can squirm and wriggle but you can't get away from it. It is a scandal that cries out to heaven and you cannot justify it by pointing to some other group and saying, "Oh, look! They are bad too!" You are becoming tedious with your excuses.
You are trying to justify the Hashemite treatment of the Palestinians by inventing some specious uniqueness on the part of Jews and then trying to blame me for not reacting as you imagine I should to your bad example. Won't work. Hashemites from the Arabian penninsula moved in to Palestine and occupied the west bank where they sent in their Arab Legion and conquered lands that belonged to others. During that time they confined millions to a blockaded ghetto in Lebanon which resulted in Palestinians being massacred by Lebanese and Syrians. You can squirm and wriggle but you can't get away from it. It is a scandal that cries out to heaven and you cannot justify it by pointing to some other group and saying, "Oh, look! The Jews do bad things yet we can virtually ignore the evils of the Nations!" You are becoming tedious with your excuses.

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#113 Oct 25, 2010
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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You are trying to justify the Hashemite treatment of the Palestinians by inventing some specious uniqueness on the part of Jews and then trying to blame me for not reacting as you imagine I should to your bad example. Won't work. Hashemites from the Arabian penninsula moved in to Palestine and occupied the west bank where they sent in their Arab Legion and conquered lands that belonged to others. During that time they confined millions to a blockaded ghetto in Lebanon which resulted in Palestinians being massacred by Lebanese and Syrians. You can squirm and wriggle but you can't get away from it. It is a scandal that cries out to heaven and you cannot justify it by pointing to some other group and saying, "Oh, look! The Jews do bad things yet we can virtually ignore the evils of the Nations!" You are becoming tedious with your excuses.
Wriggle and squirm all you want, but you can't justify yourself by some sort of analogy with someone else. Israel is what it is and you can't make it any better by trying to divert attention to someone else. You can't justify bombing innocent Palestinians in their homes and then saying that it is all right because someone else did something bad in the past.

Ciao.
Card Carrying Zionist

Los Angeles, CA

#114 Oct 30, 2010
laojim wrote:
Wriggle and squirm all you want, but you can't justify yourself by some sort of analogy with someone else. Israel is what it is and you can't make it any better by trying to divert attention to someone else. You can't justify bombing innocent Palestinians in their homes and then saying that it is all right because someone else did something bad in the past.
Ciao.
Wriggle and squirm all you want, but you can't justify yourself by a double standard applied to Israel. Terroreism is what it is and you can't make it any better by trying to divert attention to someone else. You can't justify homicide bombing of Israeli civilians in pizza parlors or shooting rockets at Israeli homes and schools in Sderot and Ashkelonand then saying that it is all right because someone else did something bad to their ancestors in the past.

Shalom.

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#115 Oct 30, 2010
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Wriggle and squirm all you want.....
Where have I heard that before?

Since: Nov 10

Glasgow, UK

#116 Nov 4, 2010
Completely not and has in many reports proven to have made the US and other Western countries less safe.

I write a blog and discuss the 'global war on terror' and its effect on civil society.

You can check it out at

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/waronterror/

Cheers,
Rattle Kattle

Casselberry, FL

#117 Nov 5, 2010
The USA is a sick nation , borrowing for a war that it started on lies.

Our wars are costing $500 M a day plus corpses...that is why GOD BLESSES our Savagery of their savagery
Card Carrying Zionist

Los Angeles, CA

#118 Nov 7, 2010
Jonny52 wrote:
Completely not and has in many reports proven to have made the US and other Western countries less safe. I write a blog and discuss the 'global war on terror' and its effect on civil society. You can check it out at http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/waronterror/ Cheers,
I supported the liberation of Iraq, however, I agree with you in part. It is highly questionable how much safer the war on terror is making the United States. The biggest supporter of terrorism has been Saudi Arabia, yet successive presidents continue to praise our "special relationship", pat them on the back and bend over for their tyrant king. In addition, we pour billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan which is a haven for terrorists, and into Afghanistan which a publication no less conservative than National Review called on of the top two most corrupt countries in the world. Meanwhile, China helps to advance the nuclear programs in North Korea and Iran, yet we do virtually nothing on this front. As this goes on, the US government refuses to take domestic security seriously, unless its auditing political opponents. I'm not suggesting that we should (or can) invade every country that supports terrorism, nor should we withdraw into an isolationist shell. But we can use a lot more brains for getting for bang for our buck if we are going to shell out billions to fight overseas.
Rattle Kattle

Debary, FL

#119 Nov 9, 2010
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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I supported the liberation of Iraq, however, I agree with you in part. It is highly questionable how much safer the war on terror is making the United States. The biggest supporter of terrorism has been Saudi Arabia, yet successive presidents continue to praise our "special relationship", pat them on the back and bend over for their tyrant king. In addition, we pour billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan which is a haven for terrorists, and into Afghanistan which a publication no less conservative than National Review called on of the top two most corrupt countries in the world. Meanwhile, China helps to advance the nuclear programs in North Korea and Iran, yet we do virtually nothing on this front. As this goes on, the US government refuses to take domestic security seriously, unless its auditing political opponents. I'm not suggesting that we should (or can) invade every country that supports terrorism, nor should we withdraw into an isolationist shell. But we can use a lot more brains for getting for bang for our buck if we are going to shell out billions to fight overseas.
The LIBERATION of IRAQ.......wrong....it was an INVASION by a nation that lives on LIES ..The USA.

The USA is an UGLY SICK nation that needs to be expelled from every nation that it INFECTS.

USA GO HOME, get your mindless troops to clean your own FILTHY STREETS
General Bothwell

Louisville, KY

#120 Nov 14, 2010
Worth it...? Hell NO!....maybe for halliburton & diick cheney!

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