US Airways considers next step in pos...

US Airways considers next step in possible American Airlines merger

There are 8 comments on the Business Journal story from Aug 27, 2012, titled US Airways considers next step in possible American Airlines merger. In it, Business Journal reports that:

US Airways Group Inc. is considering whether to sign a non-disclosure agreement that would allow an exchange of competitive information with American Airlines as the two continue to examine the possibility of a merger, USA Today reports .

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Since: May 08

Santee CA

#1 Aug 27, 2012
Dear Doug: Take Tom golfing and decide who gets what over 18 and be done with it already. Sincerely, Those of us who are getting bored with this already
Skyliner747

Roslyn, NY

#2 Aug 28, 2012
Unless the top brass at AA have full command of this merger (or whatever you choose to call it) nothing will happen between AA and US Airways. The airline will ne called American, the headquarters will be in Dallas, etc....

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#3 Aug 28, 2012
Skyliner747 wrote:
Unless the top brass at AA have full command of this merger (or whatever you choose to call it) nothing will happen between AA and US Airways. The airline will ne called American, the headquarters will be in Dallas, etc....
Yhat was already determined, it was going to stay AA, I guess living in Dallas is better than Phoenix, and it would be oneWorld. The prestige of running the tempoarily largest airline is all that remains..Ego vs. Ego. That and the creditors board hasn't bought into Parkers plan. Once the BK is over the fun will begin.
phatmoon

Delray Beach, FL

#4 Aug 28, 2012
Delta would love to get American's Latin American routes. It would probably be willing to play the spoiler and ACQUIESCE to the FTC and do whatever it needs to to get it. A hostile deal is out there because Delta needs Latin America to go head to head with United Continental.
steve

Fincastle, VA

#5 Aug 28, 2012
I think AA will emerge as a stand alone carrier. The labor issues, dropping of some hubs,and fleet mix would be a real pain. AA seems to have labor agreements with all but the pilots. The judge will decide that soon.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#6 Aug 28, 2012
steve wrote:
I think AA will emerge as a stand alone carrier. The labor issues, dropping of some hubs,and fleet mix would be a real pain. AA seems to have labor agreements with all but the pilots. The judge will decide that soon.
The #3 carrier lacks the detinations and schedule flexability of the top 2. The race is to get the coveted business dollar. Giving away that prized seat to mom, dad and 2 kids who got dirt cheap fares is not where it's at. Hawaii isn't a money maker, but Mr. 50 Million miles wants to vacation there using his milage. That's why airlines go to Hawaii. Labor at AA IS NOT fixed. The workers after being scared by the company, and getting no reassurances from thier unions decided a cup full of fecal matter shoved down thier throats was better than a gallon jug full. Saying yes to these contracts does not by any stretch of the imagination mean AA is a happy family. I dare say they may be willing to tallk to Frank Lorenzo than keep dealing with the current group. Not really, but close. That's how bad it is. Why do you think Doug Parker hammered out a deal in principle with the unions in weeks with the concessions AA could not get in years
steve

Bedford, VA

#7 Aug 28, 2012
Prost wrote:
<quoted text>The #3 carrier lacks the detinations and schedule flexability of the top 2. The race is to get the coveted business dollar. Giving away that prized seat to mom, dad and 2 kids who got dirt cheap fares is not where it's at. Hawaii isn't a money maker, but Mr. 50 Million miles wants to vacation there using his milage. That's why airlines go to Hawaii. Labor at AA IS NOT fixed. The workers after being scared by the company, and getting no reassurances from thier unions decided a cup full of fecal matter shoved down thier throats was better than a gallon jug full. Saying yes to these contracts does not by any stretch of the imagination mean AA is a happy family. I dare say they may be willing to tallk to Frank Lorenzo than keep dealing with the current group. Not really, but close. That's how bad it is. Why do you think Doug Parker hammered out a deal in principle with the unions in weeks with the concessions AA could not get in years
Parker can't make labor peace with his own pilots. I am not saying AA labor will be happy,but with the state of the economy today, having a job and keeping your seniority, medical benefits and I believe AA still has pensions is still a plus.
Parker whats this merger so bad because AA is this the last major carrier left, and he will promise anything to make it happen.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#8 Aug 28, 2012
steve wrote:
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Parker can't make labor peace with his own pilots. I am not saying AA labor will be happy,but with the state of the economy today, having a job and keeping your seniority, medical benefits and I believe AA still has pensions is still a plus.
Parker whats this merger so bad because AA is this the last major carrier left, and he will promise anything to make it happen.
A new law written as a result of the TWA/AA arbitration ruling, and passed during the last round of mergers basically blends seniority. US/HP is currently grandfathered and in a lawsuit. It was settled, but the loser got angry. This is a win for Parker with a new merger the grandfather goes away. AA pensions are frozen. They will not go up down or go away in a merger. NOW, Station staffing and medical for the ramp (the only work group I am 100% familiar with and therefore qualified to speak on.) With a merger I would have a job in the same city where I own a house my family and I reside in. Without it, I do not. The closest city I can work in is 120 miles away. NO, not a 2 hour drive. I'm in San Diego, the city I speak of is Los Angeles.(if you require further explaination ask me). There is no guarantee I would have a job there. I may need to work 1200 miles away in Texas. Medical, remains the same with a job, laid off it goes away. Part Time employees medical costs will double. They will pay the same amount full timers do with 1/2 the hours worked. Thier housing costs, or grocery bills however will NOT be reduced. Ugly yes, but the truth. AA has a social network policy that overrides the first amendment, but whatever you are thinking is most likely what I can't say. Is Doug Parker any better in the long term, doubtfull. However all of this is a mute point. The AA contracts with my work group will be green lighted Sept 12th. There will not be a merger announced before them.

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