2 courts set to test records system

A statewide effort to transform how courts do business and link records across county lines is on course to meet its first major milestone at year's end. Full Story

“Not you average Cracker”

Since: Apr 07

Indianapolis

#1 Sep 30, 2007
You know, you could hire a computer expert and a small staff of about 5 people to scan all those case files in to a access database and then post them on line. Probably would cost no more than one million at the most.

Wonder where the other 74 million is going?

Did I hear Bart calling???
WONDERING INDIANA

Winslow, IN

#3 Sep 30, 2007
Ever notice that the big$$ contracts always seem to go out of state.
Public Records

Westerville, OH

#4 Sep 30, 2007
I can't wait until they get this system up and running for the public. I'll be able to avoid hiring people who have been arrested before.
local landlord

Carmel, IN

#5 Sep 30, 2007
and make all the records available to everybody free of charge. Its virtually impossible to screen prospective tenants for criminal history.
Deadeye

Elkhart, IN

#6 Sep 30, 2007
Why is Marion county wasting money trying to upgrade a 20 year old mainframe system, while the rest of the state is heading to a web based system.
Bob in Indy

Westerville, OH

#7 Sep 30, 2007
What about people who have been arrested but had their cases dismissed, or were found not guilty?

The Indiana General Assembly has shaped Indiana law so that people cannot have their records cleared even if they are found not guilty or had their cases dismissed (with a few small exceptions---but they are rarely granted).

Most other states DO allow people to have their arrest and court records deleted if they were found not guilty or had their cases dismissed.

Employers or landlords shouldn't assume someone is guilty of a crime unless the subject was convicted in court.
Tim

United States

#9 Sep 30, 2007
Bleached White wrote:
You know, you could hire a computer expert and a small staff of about 5 people to scan all those case files in to a access database and then post them on line. Probably would cost no more than one million at the most.
Wonder where the other 74 million is going?
Did I hear Bart calling???
well, to begin with, Bart wouldn't have a lot to do with this choice...

but, as to your basic proposition, no, it wouldn't work. Access doesn't work well for the sort of large scale work that is called for here. As much as people don't want to admit it, keeping up to date records properly in a computer requires, as someone else posted, more than just putting pretty faces on failed systems. It calls for properly trained staff, a system capable of not only numerous users but each of those users hitting the database regularly, and for simple entry and search capability. It took BMV awhile, but its system seems to be working pretty well these days, based on my experience this year.

Computer systems for large scale use like this are never cheap, and they probably will have bugs at first, but as taxpayers, we'll have to pay for this if we want government to serve us
Bill Gottlieb

Mentor, OH

#10 Sep 30, 2007
Indiana Juvenile Courts have successfully realized a modern, information-sharing, case management system. Around 75% of the state's juvenile caseload is already in a web-based application developed in Indiana by an Indiana-owned company. Quest, developed by Gottlieb & Wertz, Inc., focuses on the unique needs of juveniles with emphasis on rehabilitation rather than retribution. It links all interested parties (ie. probation, detention, schools, courts, clerks, police, DCS, prosecutors, public/private attorneys, etc.) toward well-informed, decision-making that is in the best interest of the youth, their families and their community. In addition, the information from these counties is already available via a Quest state wide repository. Moreover, data gathered from the Quest system has earned national recognition, serves as a model for other states, and received 100% client satisfaction from a State-conducted survey.

Bill Gottlieb
President
Gottlieb & Wertz, Inc.
Homer

Hartford, WI

#11 Sep 30, 2007
Well, while it is true that Access would be a joke for something like this,$75 million is still a "wow". I can do the job for 10% of that :=)
Deadeye

Elkhart, IN

#12 Sep 30, 2007
Mary DePrez is a very smart lady and knows state government well. Good looking too !
Non convicted criminal

Reston, VA

#13 Sep 30, 2007
"Current plans call for voluntary participation in the new system."

75 million and then we make it voluntary.
curious

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Sep 30, 2007
This system needs one additional feature.

A citizen should be able to log in anonymously to see if there is a warrent out for their arrest insted of being told to come downtown to check the records and being arrested on the spot.

IN this backwater state, a forgotten parking ticket can mean that a warrent has been issued for your arrest, but it has been my experience that in IndianaNoPlace a rigid, inflexible enforcement of the letter of the law is more important than a fair and just administration of the spirit of the law.
Frosty

Sellersburg, IN

#15 Sep 30, 2007
just hope it doesn't turn out like the bmv software upgrade fiasco...
Brian S

Clermont, FL

#16 Sep 30, 2007
75 million? Absurd. Is it another indian outfit to save us money?
Even real solution with database replications shouldn't nearly cost that much.
Who was running this project IBM (they usual price 3 folds of everyone else)?
Geek

Pryor, OK

#17 Oct 1, 2007
Bleached White wrote:
You know, you could hire a computer expert and a small staff of about 5 people to scan all those case files in to a access database and then post them on line. Probably would cost no more than one million at the most.
Wonder where the other 74 million is going?
Did I hear Bart calling???
Clearly, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. LAME!

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