Company hired to reassess Lebanon pro...

Company hired to reassess Lebanon property values

There are 29 comments on the Lebanon Daily News story from May 20, 2010, titled Company hired to reassess Lebanon property values. In it, Lebanon Daily News reports that:

The Lebanon County commissioners have selected a Middletown company to perform a court-ordered countywide reassessment of property values.

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WTF

Northumberland, PA

#21 May 24, 2010
carl wrote:
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a bonefide appraisal costs about $300 and how many taxable properties are in Leb co?
C21 performs their appraisal process slightly different then a bona fide appraisal – it is similar to a property validation that a real estate agent might perform, but slightly less. It’s based on geographically related property comparisons using a database, which may or may not be accurate, related to the particular location and/or community. Very few, or limited site visits and/or detailed examination of properties – such as what would take place w/an appraisal, at best in may be a short front door Q & A with no property walkthrough or home inspection, in addition their categorization, related to the database data, of properties is questionable at best, you folks in Greta should be very interested in how they view VACATION properties – just look northeast what these fools did at Harvey’s Lake - other properties may do just fine...it is all over the place.
carl

United States

#22 May 24, 2010
Funky Tut wrote:
The Good Ol' Boy Train rolls on....
2 million dollars? What could these people doing that possibly costs that much?
It costs 2 million to look at something and say it's worth "X"?
Where can I get that job?
53,000 parcels..$39.62 an appraisal...
WHO IS

United States

#23 May 24, 2010
bout Agrarian Country’s President

The President of Agrarian Country is Robert S. Barr, a graduate of The Pennsylvania State University with a doctorate in Agricultural Education and School Administration. He is an educator, author, speaker, publisher, real estate appraiser, and business entrepreneur. Dr. Barr has traveled internationally, and has been responsible for establishing numerous successful organizations and businesses such as 21st Century Appraisals, and CourthouseOnline.com . In 1960, Robert Barr was honored by Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy as “Top 4-H Youth” in America. A year later, he was honored by the National Holstein Association as “National Holstein Boy.” Dr. Barr has been a high school educator, taught at The Pennsylvania State University, served as Assistant Executive Director of Intermediate Unit 17, served two terms on the Board of Directors for The Pennsylvania State University’s College of Agriculture Alumni Association, founded a two-year vocational and Bible school, and published a travel guide.

He is a strong proponent of farmland preservation and has provided expert testimony on appraisal, tax reform, Clean and Green (agricultural land preservation), and conservation easement programs. His other professional interests include the agricultural industry, real estate appraisal, and Christian ministries.
AND

United States

#24 May 24, 2010
Lebanon County already uses Courthouse Online - so 21st Century already has access to the info on all Lebanon County properties - including assessments, sales figures, etc
BUT

United States

#25 May 24, 2010
The Star Barn.com

The leadership of Agrarian Country will be seeking grants from local, state, national, and private sources to help fund projects. We expect strong support from major contributors of projects such as this; however, the backbone of support will come from private individuals who are willing to give of themselves. Agrarian Country is a Pennsylvania nonprofit organization and has been approved by the Internal Revenue Service as a 501(c)(3) public charity. Contributions are tax deductible in accordance with Section 170 of the Internal Revenue Service Code.
OPTIONS

United States

#26 May 24, 2010
Agrarian Country has acquired approximately 300 acres, located across Interstate-81 from the Regal Heir Farm (now known as Star Barn Thoroughbreds). Agrarian Country also has purchase options on an additional 700 acres

Kind of amusing how the farm now looks like a dump with the fields unmowed and fences in disrepair. I wonder if that is to help with the reassessment - it was a several million dollar property when Reigle sold it.
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South Bend, IN

#27 May 24, 2010
The NCS Group, a fundraising firm based in Camp Hill, Pa., which is working with Barr and his team on the project’s capital campaign, estimates that it will cost upward of $28 million to get the first 300 acres developed.
That includes roads, water and sewer facilities, and everything else needed to support Barr’s vision.
Barr couldn’t say exactly how much money it would cost to buy and develop the rest of the acreage, only to guess that it could end up in the “hundreds of millions” of dollars.
Little if any infrastructure currently exists on the land where the project will be built.
With the economy taking a nosedive, investors have been reluctant to give money to the project. Barr said he has had some donations, but most have been fairly small. He would not divulge how much money has been raised thus far.
Adding to the cost is the fact that nothing significant on the project has really come to fruition since he bought the Star Barn three years ago.
“That makes the Star Barn a hard concept to sell,” he said.
So Barr has focused on developing a few projects he hopes will impress enough investors to put more money toward the larger project and at the same time, make money for Agrarian Country: Star Barn Throughbreds, an existing horse farm that was purchased last year; Fishing Creek Playhouse and Dinner Theatre; and American Museum of Veterinary Medicine (AMVM).
The horse farm is within a mile of the Penn National Race Course. While the farm will be used mostly for breeding purposes, Barr said there is a chance some horses could be developed into race horses.
Temp employee

Lebanon, PA

#28 Jun 3, 2010
All I can say is watchout for this company. They do not train there temp employees correctly and when it comes to being trained for commerical reassessment there really isnt any training for data collection. This company feels safe as long as the commissioners dont follow up on there work. With jobs being so scarce the company takes real advantage of the temp workers. The commerical data collectors are expected to work past there 8hrs to get paperwork done without getting paid. When you need a job you do whatever it takes to get a pay check, meaning working without getting paid or they fire you. Good Luck if you work for this company.
Adam

Hanover, PA

#29 Oct 12, 2010
Having recently gone thru a 21st Century assessment in Adams Co., I will tell you that your best bet is to have a real appraisal done. Unfortunatly not everyone can afford one or get it scheduled. 21st Century uses a computer program to actually put a dollar figure on you property. The information on your property, size, condition, location and other buildings on the property is gather but regular people (not real estate trained) who have had 2 weeks of "info gathering" training. But the computer uses the info to price your property.

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