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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#85 Jul 5, 2012
Gold Mask wrote:
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Not at all. I'm dealing ion facts, and you are trying to make a comparison that defies simple logic. I'd say you are more interested in Christianity than scientology somehow, as you keep trying to avoid scientology itself.
YOU stated scientology is no worse(in fact actually better by you assertions)than any other religion when you do not even know that actual philosophy of scientology itself.
I said that the beliefs of Scientologists may be wacky, but they are no more wacky than those of Christians.
Gold Mask wrote:
The subject is about Murdoch and scientology criticism. But of course heaven forbid any criticism of scientology should go on without derailment.
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Wrong forum, wrong subject matter. But alas, you are ostensibly here to NOT discuss the subject matter at hand
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And you have the audacity to say "You're just appealing to popularity". What is it you are doing here? You are making statement based on nothing more than an unverifiable testimonials.
You will not address any point I have presented to you in your ongoing crying about Christianity.
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Again, you are making a statement on the basis of, well...nothing other than you are trying to build straw men. You know scientology "beliefs and practices" do you? Coz I tell you, there's a lot to know from start to finish.
You have not a clue, or are a troll or an apologist etc
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Too bad you're not real clever. Scientologists are not waiting for hubbard's return. Hubbard wrote nobody will know him when he returns X amount of years after he dropped his body.
If you rely on Fox News for "fair and balanced", then you'd be blind and following
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It's not. Because scientologists are not awaiting hubbard's return.
You have no idea what you are on about
OK, so they aren't waiting for his return. Guess Christianty is wackier.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#86 Jul 5, 2012
reza june wrote:
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What exactly is your definition of a Religion as opposed to a Cult, Rosie No Hoe?
A religion is a supernatural belief system.

The term "cult" is a meaningless pejorative applied to religions someone doesn't like.

“I am AKA Polly ”

Since: Jun 08

Helatrobus

#87 Jul 5, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I said that the beliefs of Scientologists may be wacky, but they are no more wacky than those of Christians.
Yet, you don't even know scientology beliefs and practices and still make comparisons as if you did.Whom is it appealing to authority?

Admit it, you don't know what you are on about and are only here to rabbit on about Christianity.
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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OK, so they aren't waiting for his return. Guess Christianty is wackier.
Dunno, but I *do* know that the largest infiltration into government offices perpetuated on local soil in all of U.S. history was committed by the church of scientology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_W...

I also know that not other 'religion' in the U.S is afforded the same considerations as scientology by the I.R.S.

Get informed before you open your mouth on a subject you know little about.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"--Abraham Lincoln

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#88 Jul 5, 2012
Gold Mask wrote:
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Yet, you don't even know scientology beliefs and practices and still make comparisons as if you did.Whom is it appealing to authority?
Admit it, you don't know what you are on about and are only here to rabbit on about Christianity.
WTF does "rabbit on" mean?
Gold Mask wrote:
Dunno, but I *do* know that the largest infiltration into government offices perpetuated on local soil in all of U.S. history was committed by the church of scientology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_W...
I also know that not other 'religion' in the U.S is afforded the same considerations as scientology by the I.R.S.
Get informed before you open your mouth on a subject you know little about.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"--Abraham Lincoln
What's the topic? RM labeled Scientology a "very weird cult". Well, I'm just pointing out their beliefs can't be any weirder than Christianity's, and "cult" is just a meaningless pejorative.

“Pardon my nosiness ”

Since: May 07

London, England

#89 Jul 5, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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WTF does "rabbit on" mean?
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What's the topic? RM labeled Scientology a "very weird cult". Well, I'm just pointing out their beliefs can't be any weirder than Christianity's, and "cult" is just a meaningless pejorative.
It means to chatter incessantly without thinking about what you're saying.
ella

Ireland

#90 Jul 7, 2012
F*ck this dudes, I'm starting my own religion... Seems like an easy way to get rich. Hell, if Hubbard can do it... Now... Where can I find some dumb shits that believe anything..hmmm

“Vintage 1949”

Since: Feb 12

lightly salted

#91 Jul 7, 2012
ella wrote:
F*ck this dudes, I'm starting my own religion... Seems like an easy way to get rich. Hell, if Hubbard can do it... Now... Where can I find some dumb shits that believe anything..hmmm
Try Washington, DC, in particular the U.S. Congress where the infestation of dumb shits is epidemic...
Christsharian Law

Philadelphia, PA

#92 Jul 8, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Almost all religious groups are like that.
No, not all religious groups try to keep their beliefs secret or to avoid discussing them openly...as is the case with secrecy in Scientology and in Mormonism.

Not all religions have anything near the same history of family members "disconnecting" from or shunning ex adherents via their total community support system.

And most other religions do not sound like science fiction. They might sound like fantasy, but they don't have the science fiction thing going on.

Some authoritarian groups are worse than others. These things occur along spectra.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#93 Jul 8, 2012
Christsharian Law wrote:
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No, not all religious groups try to keep their beliefs secret or to avoid discussing them openly...as is the case with secrecy in Scientology and in Mormonism.
Not all religions have anything near the same history of family members "disconnecting" from or shunning ex adherents via their total community support system.
And most other religions do not sound like science fiction. They might sound like fantasy, but they don't have the science fiction thing going on.
Some authoritarian groups are worse than others. These things occur along spectra.
I have a friend who used to be a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses. They told him he could not remain my friend if I didn't convert. He left them.

Putting 2 or 7 pairs of every type of animal on a boat and staying on that boat for a year sounds like sci-fi to me.
Christsharian Law

Philadelphia, PA

#94 Jul 8, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I have a friend who used to be a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses. They told him he could not remain my friend if I didn't convert. He left them.
Putting 2 or 7 pairs of every type of animal on a boat and staying on that boat for a year sounds like sci-fi to me.
Maybe we should look up "science fiction," then. In "science" fiction there is usually some allusion to technology or science. The story or poem or allegory of the Arc doesn't fulfill this simple, obvious definition.

So the abusive behavior of J. Witnesses means that similar behavior when found in Mormonism and in Scientology does not make them cults? That doesn't follow.

Also, as far as I am concerned, J. Witnesses share many of the same qualities of a cult, as compared to, say, Quakers or mainstream Catholics.

This is all obvious. You have a blind spot. People know what the cluster of qualities which defines or wans of a cult are. It is not a meaningless term, as you claimed.

I also note you select out one distinguishing trait while leaving my other ones unremarked upon.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#95 Jul 8, 2012
Christsharian Law wrote:
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Maybe we should look up "science fiction," then. In "science" fiction there is usually some allusion to technology or science. The story or poem or allegory of the Arc doesn't fulfill this simple, obvious definition.
Whatever.
Christsharian Law wrote:
So the abusive behavior of J. Witnesses means that similar behavior when found in Mormonism and in Scientology does not make them cults? That doesn't follow.
I've said before that the term "cult" is a meaningless pejorative.
Christsharian Law wrote:
Also, as far as I am concerned, J. Witnesses share many of the same qualities of a cult, as compared to, say, Quakers or mainstream Catholics.
This is all obvious. You have a blind spot. People know what the cluster of qualities which defines or wans of a cult are. It is not a meaningless term, as you claimed.
I also note you select out one distinguishing trait while leaving my other ones unremarked upon.
Zzzz....
Polly

Bayswater, Australia

#96 Jul 8, 2012
Oh SNAP!
\thread

“Pardon my nosiness ”

Since: May 07

London, England

#97 Jul 9, 2012
I Am Enzo - The Baker wrote:
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Try Washington, DC, in particular the U.S. Congress where the infestation of dumb shits is epidemic...
You must be talking about the Israeli Colony on the Potomac, lol.
Jesus Latter Day Taint

Philadelphia, PA

#98 Jul 9, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I've said before that the term "cult" is a meaningless pejorative.
I mean you can't distinguish between the concepts of "science fiction" and "allegory" and you say to me, "whatever"? Are you twelve years old?

I heard you say that about the word "cult." And I've been listing some of the traits, which are not innocuous. And I acknowledged that as with "modernism" or even "socialism" a strict definition might be difficult due to complexity and because these things exist along spectra.

Cults are typified by personality worship of the leader (Hubbard, Mormonism's board of governing "Prophets,") secrecy about their very dogma, authoritarianism and sexual control, shunning and demonizing by family and community of those who leave as a means of control, paranoia, patriarchy (usually.) You only get the love bomb and sleep deprivation stuff at the furthest extremes.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#99 Jul 10, 2012
ella wrote:
F*ck this dudes, I'm starting my own religion... Seems like an easy way to get rich. Hell, if Hubbard can do it... Now... Where can I find some dumb shits that believe anything..hmmm
*waving hands above head* Pick ME! Pick ME!

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