Utility: EPA rule would cost $1 billion

Utility: EPA rule would cost $1 billion

There are 58 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Dec 21, 2010, titled Utility: EPA rule would cost $1 billion. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

A proposed rule announced Tuesday by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency would require San Juan Generating Station to install costly pollution-control equipment.

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Cawleege

Ganado, AZ

#21 Dec 22, 2010
Mesa Verde has already been degraded by people who are exploiting native american cultural resources. What is worst? Exploitation or Conservation?
harry

Tuba City, AZ

#22 Dec 22, 2010
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Have you even TRIED to shop in Farmington in the last week? The traffic is horrible and the stores are jam packed. I drove through the parking lot of Smith's, couldn't find parking, and decided I'd try grocery shopping some other time. I've walked out of Wal-Mart twice in the last week rather than contend with the crowds and lines.
It's great for the retailers, but I'd like to see a lot more people shop in Gallup, so I could find parking and get in and out of the store quickly.
Have fun there!
Yep, Gallup is a cool town...They have better restaurant too..and lots of antiques....
stoptheinsanity

Albuquerque, NM

#23 Dec 22, 2010
I just have one simple question. How does it feel to see the results of Native American peoples persistence to vote for Democrat , the party that aligns themselves with the liberal environmentalist movement? Do you realize just how big of an impact that is going to have on the Native Americans when these plants start to shut down? It is going to be devastating when APS shuts it's doors, because it will not only affect the power plant workers but also the highly paid mine workers. Your liberal democrats that you continue to support are now coming back to bite the hand that has been feeding them. Please send your thanks to Ben Ray Lujan, Bill Richardson, President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and don't forget Senator Tom Udall. Merry Christmas to all ( no not Happy Holidays)!!
asdhlfkyweiuanvm

Albuquerque, NM

#24 Dec 22, 2010
Go Alternative Energy!

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#25 Dec 22, 2010
Air Quality wrote:
The cost of the improvements should be shouldered by at least 50% by the company.
Really? So when your local car dealer orders you a supercharger on that new car you asked for, does the dealer pay "at least 50%" of that cost? No way! You are INSANE to think the utility should pay to send electricity to your house.

If you don't like it, you have the right and ability to shut the service off at your house, go ahead.

Your reasoning is astounding!

Since: Jun 08

Farmington NM

#26 Dec 22, 2010
I doubt the drop in tourism has anything to do with air quality. When the economy is down, people don't travel as much.

However, it certainly should be a goal to keep trying to improve the air, everywhere.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#27 Dec 22, 2010
I read where it's figured it would cost the average PNM Residential customer $90 a year, for 20 years to pay for this. Not too bad.

But, as soon as the 3-year upgrade period is over, the EPA will want more. It will never end.

I know you all see "stuff" coming out of the stacks, but how many of you actually KNOW FOR FACT what that "stuff" is and how big of am impact it's having? I know you see the slight brown haze on the horizon, but you don't actually know where it comes from and what causes it. You hammer on the power plant because it's easy to see there is SOMETHING coming out of the stacks. But 95% of the population has no clue on what it actually is and how much of an effect it has. Most of it's just steam from the hot gasses exiting the stack into the cool, moist atmosphere.

Yes, cleaner is better. But you better be prepared to pay for the comodity if you choose to use it. And all you who want the plant shut down all together, you better stop using everything in your life that was created using "dirty" electricity. That includes your clothes, cars(yes, even your "smart" car or hybrid), bikes, house, etc, etc, etc!
justanobservatio n

Florence, AL

#28 Dec 22, 2010
GetAHobby wrote:
I read where it's figured it would cost the average PNM Residential customer $90 a year, for 20 years to pay for this. Not too bad.
But, as soon as the 3-year upgrade period is over, the EPA will want more. It will never end.
I know you all see "stuff" coming out of the stacks, but how many of you actually KNOW FOR FACT what that "stuff" is and how big of am impact it's having? I know you see the slight brown haze on the horizon, but you don't actually know where it comes from and what causes it. You hammer on the power plant because it's easy to see there is SOMETHING coming out of the stacks. But 95% of the population has no clue on what it actually is and how much of an effect it has. Most of it's just steam from the hot gasses exiting the stack into the cool, moist atmosphere.
Yes, cleaner is better. But you better be prepared to pay for the comodity if you choose to use it. And all you who want the plant shut down all together, you better stop using everything in your life that was created using "dirty" electricity. That includes your clothes, cars(yes, even your "smart" car or hybrid), bikes, house, etc, etc, etc!
I'm curious, just how do you know the "stuff" comingt out of the stacks is not nitrous oxides?
What the French Toast

Phoenix, AZ

#29 Dec 22, 2010
GetAHobby wrote:
I read where it's figured it would cost the average PNM Residential customer $90 a year, for 20 years to pay for this. Not too bad.
But, as soon as the 3-year upgrade period is over, the EPA will want more. It will never end.
I know you all see "stuff" coming out of the stacks, but how many of you actually KNOW FOR FACT what that "stuff" is and how big of am impact it's having? I know you see the slight brown haze on the horizon, but you don't actually know where it comes from and what causes it. You hammer on the power plant because it's easy to see there is SOMETHING coming out of the stacks. But 95% of the population has no clue on what it actually is and how much of an effect it has. Most of it's just steam from the hot gasses exiting the stack into the cool, moist atmosphere.
Yes, cleaner is better. But you better be prepared to pay for the comodity if you choose to use it. And all you who want the plant shut down all together, you better stop using everything in your life that was created using "dirty" electricity. That includes your clothes, cars(yes, even your "smart" car or hybrid), bikes, house, etc, etc, etc!
Just a little steam. Wow.
Just Wondering

Las Vegas, NM

#30 Dec 22, 2010
The EPA and this adminstration are doing all they can to destroy the coal and oil and gas industry. They are also doing everything they can to totally take control of your lives. And people are stupid enough to kiss their feet. Compared to cities I've been in we don't have smog in this area. And of course people burning wood and coal in their homes don't have a thing to do with air quality. The fires during the summer months also don't contribute right? When volcanoes erupt the ash and smoke and clouds don't add anything to the atmosphere, right? These stupid environmentalists don't have a lick of common sense and wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the face. They get "a plan" in their mind and they will come up with anything they can to fit into their plan.

And as if air quality has anything to do with tourism. These people must be total idiots. If people didn't visit places that had bad air quality half the world wouldn't have tourism.
Tee Court

Santa Fe, NM

#31 Dec 22, 2010
What about all the people that burn coal in their homes? Maybe they should be required to put smog controls on their homes and reduce the amount of pollution they put in the air.
Bry

Grand Rapids, MI

#32 Dec 22, 2010
As if Richardson hasn't eviscerated us enough...

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#33 Dec 22, 2010
Its going to cost billions, to retro fit a 1895 power plant, to 2010 standards. seems like they should have listened, and acted, many millions ago...Those who believe in God. if my kids had destroyed a toy, the way we have this planet! it would have gone to the needy, who treat everything with heart felt love, and gratitude.To bad we never feel this way, till its billions to late.. sounds cheaper to build a new one, brand new and up to 2025 standards,or are we destined to argue till it costs Trillions?

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#34 Dec 22, 2010
Tee Court wrote:
What about all the people that burn coal in their homes? Maybe they should be required to put smog controls on their homes and reduce the amount of pollution they put in the air.
thats an easy one to do to trade out coal for pellets and walla cleaner exhust,good post, no insult. its a cheap cleaner way of thinking.

“getting closer to home...”

Since: Aug 08

middle of nowhere NM

#35 Dec 22, 2010
just_nobody wrote:
Its going to cost billions, to retro fit a 1895 power plant, to 2010 standards. seems like they should have listened, and acted, many millions ago...Those who believe in God. if my kids had destroyed a toy, the way we have this planet! it would have gone to the needy, who treat everything with heart felt love, and gratitude.To bad we never feel this way, till its billions to late.. sounds cheaper to build a new one, brand new and up to 2025 standards,or are we destined to argue till it costs Trillions?
ya ya the date of the plant, is not what i wrote, but the point remains the same...
TimScott

Stone Mountain, GA

#36 Dec 22, 2010
This is the best time for Utility companies to one-up the Government. Bill the White House and all government building the difference for all households in America. If the government wants to keeps their lights on charge them about 125 billion a year.
Natural Gas

United States

#37 Dec 22, 2010
Here's a big news flash! If they would just convert the units at PNM to natual gas fired turbines they would reduce the NOX and carbon emissions greatly! Plus we live in the natural gas capital of the United states....Cheaper, cleaner and safer.
I guess that would make too much sense. They would rather rob the public
justanobservatio n

Florence, AL

#38 Dec 22, 2010
Natural Gas wrote:
Here's a big news flash! If they would just convert the units at PNM to natual gas fired turbines they would reduce the NOX and carbon emissions greatly! Plus we live in the natural gas capital of the United states....Cheaper, cleaner and safer.
I guess that would make too much sense. They would rather rob the public
Here's a big news flash question, who the hell is "they" that you refer to? This make come as a shock to you, but, we still have a lot of coal here too.
Bluff Utah resident

Moab, UT

#39 Dec 22, 2010
Been in Bluff for fifteen years, summer and winter.
When the common winter winds or breezes come out of the east, we get smog here in Bluff, coming right down the San Juan River valley, and my breathing is affected adversely. Finally, I now realize why, every winter, I'm clearing my throat almost every day, all day. Have to say, though, that "the gas patch" and the regularly f..ting wells over there add to the mix tossed into the air by the coal fired power plants. Hard to believe, as one writer here suggested, that the Bluff winter smog is coming from L.A. via Farmington/Shiprock. Wonder where the electricity to run this computer is coming from?
Sancho Manygoats

Denver, CO

#40 Dec 22, 2010
Cawleege wrote:
Mesa Verde has already been degraded by people who are exploiting native american cultural resources. What is worst? Exploitation or Conservation?
I've never seen broken liqour bottles 3 feet deep alongside the road going up to Meas Verde,,,,,,wanna guess where I have seen that.......

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