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Beware of marriage to a foreigner

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G Bontrager

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Jan 25, 2008
 
Published 1/16/08

Beware predator

Citizens of the United States beware. At this moment you are being stalked by a cunning, sophisticated predator. Thousands of American men and woman have fallen victim to this ruthless hunter. The tool this predator uses is a smile, and the warm embrace of a lover.

This predator has one goal, to gain entry into the United States by marrying an American citizen. Once this objective is accomplished, you have served your purpose. You will be discarded like a rag.

Be assured this predator is not alone. He or She will have access to attorneys who specialize in distorting the intent of our legal system.

No matter how unethical, they will get the job done. The predator; through legal maneuvering is now transformed into a ‘victim’.

Greg Bontrager, Hutchinson KS

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11:20PM
01/24/2008

Wrong to print letter

Which genius down at The Hutchinson News decided to print Gregory Bontrager's rant in the Western Front? Shouldn't it have been routed to the Annie's Mailbox column? I take exception to being called a predator and cannot believe that The News is aiding him in this manner. Many U.S. citizens have met, married and have wonderful lives with foreign-born spouses, and I cannot understand why you are encouraging him to spew this hate. I think apologies are in order. SYLVIA CALL

G. Bontrager
04:44PM
01/25/2008
Beware of marriage to a foreigner

In response to Ms Call’s letter published on January 25, the point of my letter about marriages to foreign spouses is not to suggest all such marriages are wrong or end in tragedy. I am sure many people have had a good experience, however many American citizens have not.

According to the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress, 30 percent of all marriage-based immigration was fraudulent.

To state a fact is not to rant, especially if you believe you are one of the 30 percent! Telling the truth does not encourage hate! It shines light on a problem that desperately needs to be addressed.

Many American citizens are and have been taken advantage of by highly sophisticated predatory foreign nationals. Our national, state and local governments are failing in there duty to protect United State citizens from this threat. This, under our constitution is there first consideration.

While France, England and Canada are addressing this widespread problem, in typical fashion this country passed laws to protect its citizens from marriage fraud, and then created loop holes in the law big enough to drive a bus through.

An entire legal industry has developed specifically to guide foreigners through this loop hole, very often defying the well meaning intent of the law.

I wish the best for Ms Call. However my letter of January 16th remains valid;

Beware of marriage to a foreigner; you are placing yourself in a high risk category.

Greg Bontrager Hutchinson KS
Rachel

San Francisco, CA

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May 10, 2008
 
I don't agree. I believe the most people want to be upfront about their intentions - however - I do agree that they know what they are doing and won't stop at anything to gain entry to the U.S using their charm, their stories and whatever else they can come up with.

I keep wanting to divorce my husband and I don't want him deported. I just don't believe that we enough in common with each other to a hold a marriage to it's vows of until death do us part.

I would rather cut the ties now rather than spending a few more years miserable trying to make it work. I worked too long in my life to be taken
advantage of like this and what kills me is the ego my husband has - like it's sense of entitlement that I owe him to stay. You can't force someone to stay in a relationship that's lost it's luster regardless of the INS and Immigration implications. It's just not worth it to me anymore.
Mary Lou

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Aug 27, 2008
 
I agree to be very careful when you want to marry a foreigner. My son married a girl from Brazil and after 2 small children, she left him and the kids and is living with another man she met in a bar. He took care of all her immigration papers and bam, she's gone. I recently found out she has 2 daughters livng back in Brazil but cannot find out how to get any information on that. I have now a very different impression of foreign women. It makes me sick and now he is stuck. I know this doesn't happen to everyone, but just be very, very careful for the real motive. Thank you for letting me express my opinion.
Marina- Spain

San Luis, Spain

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Oct 30, 2008
 
I am a Spaniard dating an American citizen. I met him here in Spain (I still live here, but planning to go to the States) because we were both working in the same company. He has spent more than a year now in another country but our relationship is stronger now than it was when we started dating. We intend to get married when we can fix some problems we have that have nothing to do with our relationship.
I have morally supported him when he was having a very hard time and he has done the same for me, and the fact is that we are completely in love with each other and we mean our relationship to be a life-long one.
I do not think that all the situations are the same and in any case the circumstances other marriages took place should be said. Maybe it is a mith or it is not exactly true, but Americans in general have a reputation for marrying very quickly and divorcing even faster... Perhaps I should not believe all the things that happen in the movies, but that is a product you export very well and the statistics prove it anyway.
I live in Europe (some Americans think that Spain is in Mexico) and my country has also huge problems with illegal immigration and that kind of marriages, but usually those problems derive from the propaganda each country speads around the world. Americans sell the American dream, the land of opportunities, the place where everything can become true and poor people from other countries want that opportunity. Our president (Zapatero), the dumbest man in the world (far ahead from Bush, believe me),gave papers to a million of illegal immigrants in order to gain votes and now we have an avalanche of them, not counting the poor people that die in the Ocean trying to make it to the Spanish coast.
With this I want to say that, around the world you can find all kind of people, some bad and a lot of them good, and it is not good to make a statement like that so general and unfair. Grown-up people should behave like that everywhere, thinking twice and using the brain we have over the shoulders. I really appreciate the hard times my partner and I are going through, because it makes us love each other more and be sure that, no matter what, we will be able to hold a good relationship till the end of our lives.
I guess that in the end, everything ends up in common sense, which often is the less common of the senses, and doing things properly. I think that three years together and lots of overcome difficulties in our relationship will be a good guarantee for people like Mary Lou, and she will not despise me for being a foreign woman dating an American guy.
Analyze a bit how your son did things, and don't think so bad about foreign women, as many of us have a degree in college and strong moral and christian principles that have nothing to do with the hypocrisy and scrupulousness of some people, American or foreigners.
Kind Regards,
Marina
KarenHemant

Virginia Beach, VA

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Jan 15, 2009
 
You said it, Marina! You are so right. It is so frustrating for people to make comments about foreigners marrying americans. Who ARE YOU OR WHO is the government to act as God to strip away our own rights, to live where we chose to live, to make OUR OWN decisions, mistakes or NO MISTAKES!!! If we make our own beds, then we should be the one's to deal with it!!! I am sick and tired of this communistic attitude of treating people like ROBOTS, AUTOMATOM'S!!! STOP TELLING US WHAT TO DO. STOP DETERMINING THAT YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP THAN WE DO. WHO ARE YOU??? 30%, OMG, what is that?? Why don't you stick your noses into people business who are already living here and determine how many of THEM are involved in sham marriages??? REGARDLEES OF 'WHO' WE ARE OR WHERE WE ARE FROM!!! We have the right to make our own decisions, marry whomever we chose, SHAM OR NO SHAM!!!! GET THAT YOU HYPOCRITiCAL GOD PLAYING DUMB DUMBS!!! PREJUDICED IGNORANT 2-FACED FOOLS!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!
KarenHemant

Virginia Beach, VA

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Jan 15, 2009
 

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YOU sre the REAL PREDATORS!! Mind YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!! Stop making our lives HELL!!
Fred Smilek

Fort Lauderdale, FL

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Mar 3, 2009
 
In this world you will meet all different kinds of people some are cunning and some a truethful. When it comes to marriage it's up to the individual to know the other person before committing. Fred Smilek is the acting president of the Society to Save Endangered Species. It was founded two years ago by Fred Smilek along with his two best friends Charles and Jonathan. http://www.fredjsmilek.com
Micheal Harris

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Mar 10, 2009
 
I am an American I also intented on married a Mexican citizen. We are marrying because we have very much in common and I love her very much. I know she is not marring me for money, but she is marrying me for me. I can tell by the way she is when shes with me and the way she looks at me.
king third

Palma, Spain

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Aug 7, 2009
 
freedom freedom freedom,who gave who the right to decide other peoples lifes when they cant handle their own lifes,we have so many frustrated loosers that all they think is making peoples lifes miserable and terrible,take care care of your shit first dont put your nose where its not suppose to be
Nate

United States

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Aug 9, 2009
 
It is hurtfull to be put in a category of a predator.I am foreign and my fiancé and I plan to get married soon because we are very much in love.I think that most people are upfront when they are marrying for papers but there are cases when someone is deceived which is a terrible thing.but then again some couples might have simply fallen put of love just like in American marriages and isn't the rate for those more than 30%.thanks
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Aug 9, 2009
 
Mind it own business get a life
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