New Wal-Mart Supercenter Opens in Ora...

New Wal-Mart Supercenter Opens in Orange County

There are 43 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jul 5, 2013, titled New Wal-Mart Supercenter Opens in Orange County. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The new Wal-Mart is located along Route 3 in Locust Grove. It's approximately 128,000 square feet and provides about 320 jobs.

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Yipee

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Jul 10, 2013
Hooray for "progress." I guess they have really hit the big time up there now...
calmyourself

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Jul 10, 2013
Whenever I have been in the Zion's Xroads Walmart, I see only 3 or 4 check-out lanes staffed. Where's all the jobs Walmart?(Hmmmm. so the analysts were right...opening a Walmart usually results in a net job loss in the unfortunate surrounding community.)
Soledad

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jul 10, 2013
calmyourself wrote:
Whenever I have been in the Zion's Xroads Walmart, I see only 3 or 4 check-out lanes staffed. Where's all the jobs Walmart?(Hmmmm. so the analysts were right...opening a Walmart usually results in a net job loss in the unfortunate surrounding community.)
You got that right...what a shame to have another corporation with huge profits take away from our precious local business community. WM makes me want to go and vomit !
jogger

Hillsville, VA

#6 Jul 10, 2013
Whoooooooppppeeeeeeeee.....i'm off to the new walmart.........
Sez you

Richmond, VA

#7 Jul 10, 2013
Walmart is a logical extension of capitalism. If your into capitolism, which this country is founded on, and hate Walmarts then you have problem.
Gnu

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Jul 10, 2013
Sez you wrote:
Walmart is a logical extension of capitalism. If your into capitolism, which this country is founded on, and hate Walmarts then you have problem.
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TRUTH

Collinsville, VA

#9 Jul 10, 2013
Subsidized by your tax dollars, over 1,500 different employees since one in greene opened
hondacivic

Staunton, VA

#10 Jul 10, 2013
Will the 320 employees be trained on how to sign up for food stamps, etc?
Hmmmmm

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jul 10, 2013
Sez you wrote:
Walmart is a logical extension of capitalism. If your into capitolism, which this country is founded on, and hate Walmarts then you have problem.
No no no no no.

Capitalism does NOT require the corporate form, and it is only the corporate form of organization that has enabled the monsters in taking over. So I think it best if we all learned to keep some clear distinctions in mind.

Three things:
1. Market economies
2. Capitalism
3. Corporate Capitalism

It is perfectly possible to have market economies that are not capitalist.

AND, it is perfectly possible to have capitalist market economies without corporations.

But once you allow corporations, the economy will only be quasi-market in form.

Corporations were NOT always allowed in the US and were widely resisted by many, including among the founding fathers. Adam Smith was also not wild about the idea. Corporate capitalism is absolutely NOT what this country was founded on and it is a shame that people don't get this.

The reason that so many thinking people were historically opposed to the corporate form of business organization? They allow the massive concentration of wealth and power. When we allowed the corporation as we know it, we replaced one aristocracy with another.

So anyway - Capitalism is a fine idea. CORPORATE capitialism is bad for people and other living things.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Jul 10, 2013
Fine, but if anyone thinks Columbus came over here to spread religious ideals I got a bridge to sell ya. The old robber barons really weren't much different than todays corporations.
Old Hare

Warrenton, VA

#13 Jul 10, 2013
Why?

Walmart was supposed to make it flow with the battlefield park that encompasses a good portion of this area of Orange and from the pictures 29 has up it has failed miserably.

The other crazy thing is that approximately 12 miles in either direction of the Lake of the Woods/Locust Grove area there are already two Walmart Super Centers.

People living in Orange, Gordonsville and Unionville have to drive 30 minutes or more to get to a Walmart. Now I'm not saying that Walmart is a glowing example of a business but when you are surrounded by dollar type stores it would have been nice if they had placed it where someone could have really used and needed an alternative.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jul 11, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
No no no no no.
Capitalism does NOT require the corporate form, and it is only the corporate form of organization that has enabled the monsters in taking over. So I think it best if we all learned to keep some clear distinctions in mind.
Three things:
1. Market economies
2. Capitalism
3. Corporate Capitalism
It is perfectly possible to have market economies that are not capitalist.
AND, it is perfectly possible to have capitalist market economies without corporations.
But once you allow corporations, the economy will only be quasi-market in form.
Corporations were NOT always allowed in the US and were widely resisted by many, including among the founding fathers. Adam Smith was also not wild about the idea. Corporate capitalism is absolutely NOT what this country was founded on and it is a shame that people don't get this.
The reason that so many thinking people were historically opposed to the corporate form of business organization? They allow the massive concentration of wealth and power. When we allowed the corporation as we know it, we replaced one aristocracy with another.
So anyway - Capitalism is a fine idea. CORPORATE capitialism is bad for people and other living things.
yes yes yes yes
I agree it's bad, but it 'evolved' into the present state because our constitution allowed it to.
Watcha goin to do?
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#15 Jul 11, 2013
sez you wrote:
Fine, but if anyone thinks Columbus came over here to spread religious ideals I got a bridge to sell ya. The old robber barons really weren't much different than todays corporations.
That's not capitalism, that is colonialism; something good classical liberal (or libertarian) capitalists are against.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#16 Jul 11, 2013
huck wrote:
<quoted text>
yes yes yes yes
I agree it's bad, but it 'evolved' into the present state because our constitution allowed it to.
Watcha goin to do?
It's not that it has "evolved" it is that it has been perverted into something that isn't capitalism, much like the word liberal. Today when people use the word liberal, they mean something very different than the academic definition of liberal.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Jul 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>It's not that it has "evolved" it is that it has been perverted into something that isn't capitalism, much like the word liberal. Today when people use the word liberal, they mean something very different than the academic definition of liberal.
OK, it "perverted" because the constitution allowed it to.
Watcha goin to do?
Concerned Troy Residents

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Jul 11, 2013
We hope the Orange County Walmart is better than the one at Zion which is too small and never has anything in stock. Plus, no vision center which was badly needed. The cashier's are very friendly but it is not one stop shopping. The Zion Walmart is the worst of any Walmarts we have been to i.e. Charlottesville, Greene, Waynesboro, Staunton, etc.... May be the Orange County store will take some burden off the one at Zion?! It appears that the Orange store is much bigger, cleaner, and has more inventory than the Zion location. You feel like you are in a warehouse.
Gnu

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Jul 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>It's not that it has "evolved" it is that it has been perverted into something that isn't capitalism, much like the word liberal. Today when people use the word liberal, they mean something very different than the academic definition of liberal.
A municipality can choose NOT to have any businesses. Not smart, but it's a choice.
Allowing Walmart into your town ensures that gov't bureaucrats, pencil pushers etc. get paid..oh, and a few infrastructure upgrades are made along the way.
Think about who brokers, mediates, and allows these deals to go through.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#20 Jul 11, 2013
Concerned Troy Residents wrote:
We hope the Orange County Walmart is better than the one at Zion which is too small and never has anything in stock. Plus, no vision center which was badly needed. The cashier's are very friendly but it is not one stop shopping. The Zion Walmart is the worst of any Walmarts we have been to i.e. Charlottesville, Greene, Waynesboro, Staunton, etc.... May be the Orange County store will take some burden off the one at Zion?! It appears that the Orange store is much bigger, cleaner, and has more inventory than the Zion location. You feel like you are in a warehouse.
Aren't the two like an hour apart?
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#21 Jul 11, 2013
Gnu wrote:
<quoted text>
A municipality can choose NOT to have any businesses. Not smart, but it's a choice.
Allowing Walmart into your town ensures that gov't bureaucrats, pencil pushers etc. get paid..oh, and a few infrastructure upgrades are made along the way.
Think about who brokers, mediates, and allows these deals to go through.
Which has what to do with what I posted?

It's not always not smart to just go willy nilly approve businesses without a business plan. Study after study proves that Walmart is not always best for communities and ends up in net economic loss in property values, jobs, and tax revenue. I don't know if less revenue sounds smart to you or not, but it doesn't sound smart to most.

Yes, think about them... they're not always looking out for a communities best interest, but their own.
The Dude

Bumpass, VA

#22 Jul 11, 2013
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