Oyster Bay spends more in legal fight against developer

There are 18 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 29, 2008, titled Oyster Bay spends more in legal fight against developer. In it, Newsday reports that:

The Town of Oyster Bay has allocated more money to continue the fight to overturn a judge's order to allow a proposed luxury mall in Syosset .

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Tinker

Rimersburg, PA

#1 Oct 29, 2008
Have they considered mixed use? OK, you want a Barneys and Norstrom? Fine. How about some affordable housing, which this island desperately needs?
SBlump

Uniondale, NY

#2 Oct 29, 2008
We sure don't need jobs on long island. Jobs only bring the riff raff.

I hate long island.
Brush Wood

Slidell, LA

#4 Oct 29, 2008
Some more Oyster SHirts, comical ones http://www.cafepress.com/figstreetstudio/2853...
LIC

Hollis, NY

#5 Oct 29, 2008
NO more malls!!! The traffic congestion now is horrendous. Long Island used to be nice - now it's a hell hole!
Salvatz

Sterling, VA

#6 Oct 30, 2008
I am sick and tired of money being wasted on fighting this mall. The mall will be replacing a dilapidated old factory. The land has been cleared. It is in a central location near the expressway and possibly could be the catalyst in opening the old Landia train station on the Long Island Railroad. That would allow people from other counties to have easy access to the mall and generate tax dollars for Nassau. Forget affordable housing in Long Island. There is no such thing. If you want affordable housing, move to the Pocono's. This is an upscale mall not s strip mall with a pizza place and a nail salon. This will attract high end customers and generate jobs.

Oyster Bay needs to spend its money wisely. How about putting the money towards rebuilding the commuter garage in Hicksville instead of wasting money fighting this mall that we all know will eventually get built anyway.
LIC

Hollis, NY

#7 Oct 30, 2008
Salvatz wrote:
I am sick and tired of money being wasted on fighting this mall. The mall will be replacing a dilapidated old factory. The land has been cleared. It is in a central location near the expressway and possibly could be the catalyst in opening the old Landia train station on the Long Island Railroad. That would allow people from other counties to have easy access to the mall and generate tax dollars for Nassau. Forget affordable housing in Long Island. There is no such thing. If you want affordable housing, move to the Pocono's. This is an upscale mall not s strip mall with a pizza place and a nail salon. This will attract high end customers and generate jobs.
Oyster Bay needs to spend its money wisely. How about putting the money towards rebuilding the commuter garage in Hicksville instead of wasting money fighting this mall that we all know will eventually get built anyway.
I agree with the last part of your post, however, opening the old Landia station would only bring trouble from other counties AND the trains are freakin crowded enough - packed - standing room only. I highly doubt the out of towners would only be using the RR on weekends. And the LIE is a joke every day of the week and wait until the holidays around that area. This would not be good.
driveby

Jericho, NY

#8 Oct 30, 2008
A nice pretty lake with trees and a children's playground, with winter ice-skating would be good ...
Osito

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Nov 3, 2008
Why are they wasting our money on this? The mall will be built; they already won the court case! It's best now to negotiate a positive solution rather than wasting everyone's time and money.
Hang Them All

Hicksville, NY

#10 Nov 3, 2008
driveby wrote:
A nice pretty lake with trees and a children's playground, with winter ice-skating would be good ...
Yes, that's what we need. A playground on top of a toxic waste site.

Isn't it bad enough there's a school right behind that dump?

Let them build the stinkin' mall already.
Syosset Resident

Farmingdale, NY

#11 Nov 4, 2008
It's funny how everyone that supports this mall does not actually live in the area. It's easy to sit back and say build the thing when it is not your home value and quality of life is unaffected. For those of us that live here, the only 'benefit' we will get is more traffic and dropped home values even worse than the current downturn. It is not a coincidence that a large number of homes available for sale in Syosset and Jericho are clustered around the Robbins Lane corridor.

It is not a waste of money when the town uses it to actually represent the will of the town against outside interests.
Hang Them All

Hicksville, NY

#12 Nov 5, 2008
Syosset Resident wrote:
It's funny how everyone that supports this mall does not actually live in the area. It's easy to sit back and say build the thing when it is not your home value and quality of life is unaffected. For those of us that live here, the only 'benefit' we will get is more traffic and dropped home values even worse than the current downturn. It is not a coincidence that a large number of homes available for sale in Syosset and Jericho are clustered around the Robbins Lane corridor.
It is not a waste of money when the town uses it to actually represent the will of the town against outside interests.
I live in Syosset within a mile of the site, I want the mall. So there. If you don't like it, blame it on the toxic fumes I sucked up while attending South Grove while Cerro Wire was dumping their waste.
Syosset Resident

Massapequa, NY

#13 Nov 5, 2008
Hang Them All wrote:
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I live in Syosset within a mile of the site, I want the mall. So there. If you don't like it, blame it on the toxic fumes I sucked up while attending South Grove while Cerro Wire was dumping their waste.
Well, your own comments place you at that location at least 30 years or more, which means you either inherited the house from your parents, or bought into it for well under $100K. Even if you have refi'd to get cash out, you do not have the same vested financial interest as newer owners. For us newer residents, we did research into schools, demographics, economics, etc., and based on that made a decision to spend hundreds of thousands of our very hard earned dollars to move into the area to have and raise our families. Now along comes a corporation from out of the area seeking to negate all the factors that went into our decisions and to destroy the very qualities that brought us here in the first place. If we wanted lower property values, high congestion, and overcrowding, we had a large number of other alternatives than Syosset that would have been a lot cheaper. Taubman Corp. doesn't give a crap about the residents of the area, all they worship is the dollar, and to hell with what it does to the community or its inhabitants as long as their balance sheet looks good.
OBAMA 08

White Plains, NY

#14 Nov 5, 2008
typical republican behavior.
driveby

Jericho, NY

#15 Nov 6, 2008
retail is tanking, There is absolutely no need for an additional high-end mall these days that can only hurt the other shops and stores in the County sales-wise, not to mention the small shops in the Village of Syosset, etc. The impact upon the surrounding neighorhood with respect to traffic congestion, environmental significance (drinking water supply) and property values is a no-brainer. What is the matter with these Taubman people? What are they thinking? Who are their advisors????
Hang Them All

Hicksville, NY

#16 Nov 7, 2008
Syosset Resident wrote:
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Well, your own comments place you at that location at least 30 years or more, which means you either inherited the house from your parents, or bought into it for well under $100K. Even if you have refi'd to get cash out, you do not have the same vested financial interest as newer owners. For us newer residents, we did research into schools, demographics, economics, etc., and based on that made a decision to spend hundreds of thousands of our very hard earned dollars to move into the area to have and raise our families. Now along comes a corporation from out of the area seeking to negate all the factors that went into our decisions and to destroy the very qualities that brought us here in the first place. If we wanted lower property values, high congestion, and overcrowding, we had a large number of other alternatives than Syosset that would have been a lot cheaper. Taubman Corp. doesn't give a **** about the residents of the area, all they worship is the dollar, and to hell with what it does to the community or its inhabitants as long as their balance sheet looks good.
I do not live in my childhood home, we bought our house 11 years ago for well over $100k, so don't presume to know what I have vested in anything or that you are the only one that works hard to make a living. I don't know about you, but I am trying to raise my children without the entitled and arrogant Syosset attitude (which for a newer resident you seem to have gotten down perfectly). They will have to work to get the things they want that are not necessities, and to have a plethora of job choices within walking distance appeals to me.
Inventor

United States

#17 Nov 19, 2008
People have opposed the mall a long time. They must have a reason. But why do they oppose it?
resident

Jericho, NY

#18 Nov 19, 2008
elementary school nearby, at-grade railroad crossing nearby, no way to exit east from it onto the LIE (one lane onto a service rd thru residential street, etc.), all nearby cross-sections failing in traffic study after being upgraded, residential area, environmental contamination from stormwater recharge as site not completely cleaned up, center of recharge area, business competition with local village stores, underimproved mall nearby in need of renovation and well situated, over-malled suburban area, competes with other malls & anchor store sales (NM) tanking at present nationwide, no exit road for fire, immediately next to TOB Landfill, other uses for land like hotel, assisted/affordable living, etc. preferred and needed, all united civics throuout northern Nassau County against it, etc. etc. etc.

-- want more reasons? just getting warmed up.
Inventor wrote:
People have opposed the mall a long time. They must have a reason. But why do they oppose it?
Pandadoll

Hackensack, NJ

#19 Dec 8, 2008
I think it's too bad that NO ONE ever listens to residents.

They usually KNOW better than anyone how it REALLY is in their neighborhood.

The best thing they could do with either space would be to let it go to nature again.

They made a mistake way back when.

NO ONE will be happy til we suffocate in development on LONG ISLAND.

It is ALWAYS a quality of life issue.

OPEN SPACE.......it is so nice when you find some, rather than being choked to deaf with more & more people.

So sad.....to be subjected to over development, when all we want to do is be able to....ahhhhhh...
is breath..........

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