Little unity among businesses on heal...

Little unity among businesses on health-care reform

There are 4 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 19, 2009, titled Little unity among businesses on health-care reform. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Asking what business wants from health-care reform is a lot like asking which religion or which political candidate is best.

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Charleston, IL

#1 Jul 20, 2009
What hardly anyone in the main stream media seems to be talking about is exactly what needs to be done. Eliminate greedy, immoral, unnecessary middlemen (private health insurers) and utilize efficiencies of scale. They are killing, disabling, bankrupting and terrorizing tens of millions of innocent Americans, destroying small businesses and our economy. They make our war profiteers and oil barons look like chump changers. Uniting ALL Americans into one "Improved and Enhanced Medicare for All" type plan under one set of non-discriminatory rules would save at least $400 Billion/yr. in wasted bureaucratic overhead alone. It would cost less than half of that to cover all of our uninsured reliably and comprehensively from cradle to grave. Everyone who has done their homework, as well as every other civilized nation on Earth (but ours) knows this already. The only choice anyone wants or needs as far as coverage is concerned is to be covered if we need it, and be able to go to the care provider of our own choosing. Health insurers only limit both choices. Now we are divided and conquered, at the mercy of a non-system that has no mercy.

Springfield, IL

#2 Jul 20, 2009
As a small business owner, I want healthcare costs to be more affordable. However, the plans being rushed through in Washington are all about government taking over our healthcare system. I want flexibility and incentives for small businesses providing healthcare to their employees. Wake not allow Congress and our President take over our healhcare. The focus needs to be on the 10% unable to obtain insurance not through the entire system under the bus!
Sam Duncan

Spokane, WA

#3 Jul 20, 2009
The Obama administration continually tells us the insurance industry is cheating us. What administration would turn its back on its citizens and continue to allow us to be harmed by this giant? How can tis administration not immediately shut dowm the insurance industry and demand a full refund for us if the are cheating out of more than Madoff did?
Why is it that if GE or , Ford, or Proctor and Gamble developed a new product, we are not all entitled to a free one over night. Especially if we want it or think it might offer some advantage. But, if Lilly or Watson, or Merck, or Novartis invent some medicine that never existed before we are entiltled to it as soon as it is released for free no less. We invoke all kinds of moral made up arguments to justify that grandma has to have it. Suppose they all said , well to hell with it , we will just quit making it. then what. A government health plan to provide poducts and services that don't exist. Trust me, the age of dedication is gone, if there is no profit in the healthcare sector for all supplers and providers, it will go away. When nobody will pay for the mufflers, the muffler shop closes.

Rhinelander, WI

#4 Jul 20, 2009
Using governments “unfair advantages” is the way to bring rapid “game changing” innovations and reforms to health care.

A new public health service could provide:

Free care and medications to everyone choosing to use public care, rich, poor, old, young, everybody that asks for it could have it no insurance or co pays would be required the service would be free period.

Businesses that would choose the public health care service for their employees would no longer be required to pay for or be involved in health care in any way.

Costs to citizens for this new public health care system even after bringing in 50 million people currently outside of any system, paying all costs for seniors who would chose to use this totally free public service instead of the complicated doughnut hole infested Medicare mumbo jumbo, and caring for everyone else who wanted to drop what they are paying for and use free public care, the costs for all of this when delivered efficiently through a new civilian VA style system, proven and fine tuned through years of use, would still be hundreds of billions of dollars cheaper than the $2.5trillion spent last year.

Nobody can collect the money to pay for health care as cheaply as the government can through a national sales tax, as opposed to forcing individuals and businesses to purchase questionable insurance to pay for expensive services in a system that has failed so many, and nobody can deliver high quality care and medications as cost effectively as the VA has for years.

A civilian model of the VA is the best fix in a new dual public/private system.

If private systems work for you keep doing what you’re doing except no government funding should be spent through private systems in order to control costs and outcomes.
Using a dedicated national sales tax funding source in conjunction with the VA's delivery and software records systems means we don’t need to reinvent the wheel.

The system could be jump started by acquiring health delivery systems around the country that would choose to sell to, and be integrated into, the new public National Health Care System.

A national health care system could also take over states and local government’s health care systems to assure VA operating standards and relieve local funding problems while providing total transferability for patients.

Building new public health care facilities will produce capital assets that will continue to serve Americans for generations, and provide millions of construction jobs today and millions of new health care jobs forever.

The private care option would allow individuals or businesses the unlimited choice of doctors, clinics, hospitals, timing, and treatments, Ford Fiesta or Rolls-Royce, but it would require the user to pay privately for their health services, either by self pay, company pay, private insurance, whatever, but government funded programs should only be distributed through the new national system to assure cost control and outcomes.

It is not a level playing field with government competing against private insurance and for profit care providers for patients, nor should it be.

Government needs to become the basic necessities no frills provider of health care and it needs to do its duty in a way that will not force individuals, businesses, and taxpayers to pay their money to private hospitals and insurance companies when government owned and operated hospitals and sales tax funding sources would cost less.

Private health care's roll in public/private reform should be to attract every client they can who would find their services so compelling that patients would pay good money to voluntarily purchase their services rather than take free public care.

It is time for the President, Legislators, American businesses, unions, AARP and everyone to look at this reform proposal.

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