Taking a stand

Taking a stand

There are 15 comments on the Worldmag.com story from May 1, 2006, titled Taking a stand. In it, Worldmag.com reports that:

John Collins' non-Latino co-workers are at work today after he protested the company's decision to close in support of immigration-related protests, but Mr.

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msbobbie

Ocilla, GA

#1 May 1, 2006
I saw this fella on Neil Cavuto Friday. I say "good for him!"
msattitude

Borger, TX

#3 May 2, 2006
I think allowing illegal immigrants to stay without penalty is a slap in the face not only to our veterans but to the LEGAL immigrants who went throught the process. It's not easy to become a citizen. If we just start granting amnesty then others will just flood in here thinking why bother with the process. The very term ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT implies that there must be a consequence for their actions.
redpenner

Pauls Valley, OK

#4 May 2, 2006
MsAttitude, you've got that right. Not only is it difficult to become a citizen(and expensive -- application fee is about $400) it's difficult to just get a legal visa to get in, and a green card to stay awhile. Some of us jumped through hoops, filled out forms, stood in lines, got photographed and fingerprinted, had background checks and physicals and immunizations just to get here from Canada. Not fair to turn around now and say, well if you'd just walked in from the south, we wouldn't have stopped you.
redpenner

Pauls Valley, OK

#5 May 2, 2006
Forgot to mention, that was for a fiancee visa (i.e., I was marrying an American. If I hadn't, the whole process would have been even worse!)
Jamie in OKC

Oklahoma City, OK

#6 May 2, 2006
I say open the gates let em' flood in...tell them there are just so many days they are allowed to cross the border legally..Once they are all here..Lets move to Mexico....put up a 30 foot wall all the way across....we can tear everything down and build fresh..Kinda like a new start in a nicer climate. Sounds good to me.
Jamie in OKC

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 May 2, 2006
I'll take a chunk right near cancun. :)
Jamie in OKC

Oklahoma City, OK

#8 May 2, 2006
redpenner wrote:
Forgot to mention, that was for a fiancee visa (i.e., I was marrying an American. If I hadn't, the whole process would have been even worse!)
I'd imagine...had you not had a n american to marry it would have been harder. I think marriage or not ...it should still be one standard process to get in. I dont think you should have less of a process because you found someone to marry.
coolmind

United States

#9 May 2, 2006
in this "christian" land, we hate gays and those who support woman's right to choose, saying it's immoral, but then we forget to care for the poor, and the less fortuntate. Stupic Bush thinks his world will end if the anthem is sung in spanish... I guess he forgets its the message not the language that is important. Does his god care what language people pray in?
msbobbie

Ocilla, GA

#10 May 2, 2006
We are a nation of laws and the law should not be selectively enforced. There is a law that gives special attention to people like redpenner. Too many, expecially from Mexico, are putting the cart before the horse. Coming here first, then finding someone to marry and hoping they will get to stay. I know of at least 4 where this has happened, and have continual debates about it. Plain and simple, the law was broken and a risk was taken. There should not be an exception.

I know one person who came here from a foreign country (not Mexico) and jumped through all the hoops to become an American Citizen. I attended a dedication ceromony of a memorial to POW-MIA service men and women last weekend. Msattitude is 100% correct. Amnesty to people who have come here illegally is a slap in the face to legal immigrants and our Veterans.

And Dog MAN, there used to be an Ellis Island also. That "Give me your..........huddled masses........" is an inscription on the Statue of Liberty, an unsolicited gift from France. Neil Boortz would say "Thanks a pantload". I do agree that everyone should spend some time in some kind of service to this country. And it should be done before they are eligible for Govrnment Student Loans and grants.

IMO those, especially from Mexico, are not just protesting, they are demanding our laws be changed to favor them. They have no intention of becoming American Citizens and contributing to this country. They want us to become like them in language and culture. They wave their flag in our face, and use our flag for articles of clothing. Our government failed (refused) to enforce the laws, and now they are acting like the easiest way to correct it is give amnesty to all who are already here, and fear if they do not they will not be reelected. The right thing to do is not always the easy thing.
redpenner

Pauls Valley, OK

#11 May 2, 2006
Hang on a minute -- I found the guy first (or rather, he found me); he would have moved to Canada instead, but they don't want anyone with health problems, and he has a couple of those, so I applied to get into his country. So we could be together. We're still married 9 years later. This was no green card scam.
msattitude

Borger, TX

#12 May 2, 2006
redpenner wrote:
Hang on a minute -- I found the guy first (or rather, he found me); he would have moved to Canada instead, but they don't want anyone with health problems, and he has a couple of those, so I applied to get into his country. So we could be together. We're still married 9 years later. This was no green card scam.
And you did it the right way. I have no problem with people from another country. The USA has always been a melting pot. Most of us "Natural" citizens have ancestors from other countries. I don't know how many generations you'd have to go back but you would find my ancestors in Germany. But whatever country these people go to there will be rules and laws, I just think they should apply to everyone.
Ice Tea

Kilgore, TX

#13 May 11, 2006
I think it is a travesty to give illegal immigrants amnesty. But, if you noticed a couple of years ago, everything started being in spanish also so I don't think this is a surprise to the US government. Bush used his perks to Mexico to get votes in the last election.
They should have to serve in the armed forces first then they could citizenship, but just letting them in....it will never stop and pretty soon, there will be more hispanics than any other kind of person in the US.
What kind of immunizations does a person have to have to get into the US?
redpenner

Pauls Valley, OK

#14 May 12, 2006
I had to have : Polio, Tetanus, Diphtheria, Measles, Rubella, Mumps.(I had all of these already, but didn't have my records, so I got them all again.) The CDC says: "Under new immigration laws passed in 1996 and in effect as of July 1, 1997, all individuals seeking permanent entry into the U.S. must prove that they have been inoculated against all vaccine-preventable diseases. This includes infants and children being brought into the country for international adoption."
msbobbie

United States

#15 May 12, 2006
President Bush will be speaking to the Nation Monday night. Maybe he thinks he can change some minds. The large majority of American Citizens are opposed to any kind of amnesty. I fear though that the Senate will send a bill back to the House with just that in it. It is not expected to pass the House. I have held my Senator's and Congressman's feet to the fire on this and have been assured that all of the Oklahoma Delegation in Washington is standing firm against anything that sounds like amnesty. Here is the email for the White House.

[email protected]
msbobbie

United States

#16 May 12, 2006
The Oklahoma Legislature is struggling to tighten immigration laws in the State. The House sent a good bill to the Senate, but is having trouble there. My own Senator Kenneth Corn seems to want to get his name on something and attempted to add ammendments that the rest of the Democrats in the Senate object to. You can follow legislation in the Oklahoma Legislature here:

http://okinsider.com/

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