Scotts Valley gas company makes anoth...

Scotts Valley gas company makes another plea to move to Janis Way

There are 12 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Dec 26, 2008, titled Scotts Valley gas company makes another plea to move to Janis Way. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Suburban Propane, the liquid gas company anxious to move from its Mount Hermon Road headquarters and sell the land for development, is taking its case to the City Council.

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Longtime Local

AOL

#1 Dec 26, 2008
Let's hope the council will not be swayed by uniformed, emotionally motivated citizens. Let the facts regarding safety and common sense speak for themselves. The Janis location makes much more sense and will be appreciably more safe than Mt. Hermon Rd. where the tanks have been for many years.
Scotts Valley Local

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Dec 26, 2008
Really. Move the tanks and get it over with.
love scotts valley

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Dec 26, 2008
I think the same people who don't want it to happen will be there. i don't think the council will be swayed by anyone holding there kid up and saying "don't kill my kid". Lets keep the propane companys in Scotts Valley and make them safe.
IgnoreGutlessPla nningComm

West Sacramento, CA

#4 Dec 26, 2008
Amen to the two posts above. Follow the objectives of the studies and experts who are unnanimous in saying the tanks will be much safer with these new systems on Janis Road than they are today 15 feet from the busiest road in the entire county. The councils job is to look at what is best for everybody not just a small group of NIMBYS who dont have a single fact on their side. Hopefully the council unlike the planning commissioners who argeed the new tanks would be safer but admitted they did not have the courage to say no the unlogical arguments of the NIMBYS yelling at them will have the courage to do what everybody wants and is common sense.
construction wise

United States

#5 Dec 26, 2008
I agree, with moving the tanks as well. If the danger was so great the Sky Park subdivision would have never been approved, etc. How many people use the dog park the soccer fields, shop at Safeway and Nob Hill without worring about the propane cylinders?

Let the city move ahead and let the tank owners upgrade the systems to meet the new safety standards. Let's all support the growth of our city.
SVMom

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Dec 26, 2008
Move the tanks.Janus is the perfect location. They are more danger where they are now. Spare us from the NIMBY types.
Lou831

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Dec 26, 2008
SVMom wrote:
Move the tanks.Janus is the perfect location. They are more danger where they are now. Spare us from the NIMBY types.
HOW ABOUT THEY PUT THE TANKS IN YOUR BACKYARD SVMom?
JUST WHY THE HELL DOES SCOTTS VALLEY NEED TWO PROPANE COMPANIES. LET THEM MOVE TO WATSONVILLE,WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE.DON'T TURN DENSELY OCCUPIED JANIS WAY INTO A POTENTIAL DEATH ZONE.
Native

United States

#8 Dec 26, 2008
Well Lou831 I think they should put it in YOUR backyard. You idiot..
Realistic

United States

#10 Dec 26, 2008
Lou831 wrote:
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HOW ABOUT THEY PUT THE TANKS IN YOUR BACKYARD SVMom?
JUST WHY THE HELL DOES SCOTTS VALLEY NEED TWO PROPANE COMPANIES. LET THEM MOVE TO WATSONVILLE,WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF OPEN SPACE.DON'T TURN DENSELY OCCUPIED JANIS WAY INTO A POTENTIAL DEATH ZONE.
People like you need to get a life. How many of these
tanks have blown up? Also with two propane companies not alone provides more jobs but I bet also promotes
competition. Maybe you should move to Watsonville, Scotts Valley does not serve just you.
Put this at Gateway South

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Dec 26, 2008
Right across from the proposed firestation - a match made in heaven.
TaxPaynMeatEatn Republicn

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Dec 26, 2008
I took a look at:
http://www.savescottsvalley.com/

Most of whats in there is way overstated. These tanks don't just blow up on their own. The videos are irrelevant and simply meant to scare people. Tanks have to be heated up by fire for a long time to blow up. The pea-gravel prevents heat buildup. The factory was a contained space that filled with gas. Even tankers that catch fire don't blow up. None of these situations are applicable. Probably someone that lives across the hiway or works next door. This is an industrial area. Certainly its better than town center... Now that I think about it - maybe the best place for something like this is where the old shell station on water/ocean was located...
Better business sense

Hayward, CA

#14 Dec 26, 2008
The risk of catastrophic bleve of a tank is negligible. But the risks of significantly increasing the volume / frequency of fuel trucks through this area is not. SV has nothing to gain from keeping the propane companies located in town; this is an unmanned facility with no point of sale revenues. The city has wanted them gone for more than 15 years, but this council has been unable to recognize that not all businesses are desirable. These companies have played hardball with the city through year after year of negotiations to get them to leave; now the city is even throwing money at them to move somewhere else as a half-baked measure to free up town center space. The only beneficiaries are the propane companies who, even after they have moved, can still demand top (and excessive) dollars for their vacant land in the town center area.

This council just caves to businesses thinking that acting 'business friendly' will make them more attractive to good businesses. At least Reed had the sense to recognize that Giro was just holding the city hostage for $75K and that this piddly amount of money had nothing to do with whether they would move to SV or not. Now it's the propane companies acting as if they have nowhere else to move their storage operations. It's a bunch of bull and the council is just setting itself up for the next bleeding heart business to take advantage of their gullibility.

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