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Scotts Valley council clears path for move of propane tanks

There are 93 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jan 8, 2009, titled Scotts Valley council clears path for move of propane tanks. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

City leaders cleared the way for Suburban Propane to move its business to the industrial Janis Way from the spot on Mount Hermon Road the gas company has held for 54 years.

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Unbelievable

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Jan 8, 2009
This is so Santa Cruz. Morons everywhere. That tank has been there for so long I don't remember it not being there. It's actually in a more dangerous spot being right there on the side of a 4 lane road than somewhere else in the city. Guess what. There are propane tanks all across American. When is the last time one blew up? Hmm? Terrorists? Someone needs to take their medications. It's the same as "I want my cell phone but get rid of that tower" mentality.
SV Resident

Brisbane, CA

#2 Jan 8, 2009
Good for you, City Council! I am not surprised that Stephanie Aguilar voted against it.(boo!)

Don't be threatened by a minority of the people. Most city residents support the move AND the council.

Go Town Center!
Karen

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Jan 8, 2009
I don't know much about this but the terrorist angle seems rather dramatic. Chances are that the imagined terrorists could find the gas on Mt. Hermon if they look hard enough. I don't know anything about gas storage either. Will their plans create a higher level of risk or just move the risk across town?
SV DAD

United States

#4 Jan 8, 2009
Great move city council!

Another step forward to a Town Center!
bonny doon resident

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Jan 8, 2009
Good for you SV city council!

Time to move forward.
Silva

Los Altos, CA

#6 Jan 8, 2009
Stephany A represents the morons of SV. These people are so stupid they dont even know how to be embarrassed for the comments that come out of their mouth. Move the tanks, tell the vitamin folks to take their schlock elsewhere and move forward with the there-there town center.

“ I do deny them my essence...”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Jan 8, 2009
Hooray for Scotts Valley City Council! I congratulate all those who stood in the face of absurd fear and voted to allow Suburban Propane to move to Janis Way. Hey Scotts Valley NIMBY's...if you really want something scary to whine about, think about all the contaminated soil around Seagate and closed down fabs.
nutcase

El Sobrante, CA

#8 Jan 8, 2009
I think the propane tanks are more attractive than the proposed development featuring additional San Jose-tract-style housing and strip malls.

Better yet, bring back the airport!
mhs

Mountain View, CA

#9 Jan 8, 2009
amen to that! We all miss the airport. It was a real addition to the area! And not ONE of those thousands of planes EVER hit the propane tanks!
The "newcomers" made the airport leave because of the propane tanks being a supposed threat.....now those same people are scared of the propane tanks.
What will we have to move next???????? Make Mount Hermon Road into a pedestrian mall????

Ah, for the good old days of blueberry patches and dairy farms. Oh, wait, no we can't have dairy farms. Too much carbon emissions!!!:):)
mountainboy

Denver, CO

#10 Jan 8, 2009
so how was this propane NOT dangerous for 54 years?
And, Scott's Valley at the top of terrorists' target list? Gimme a break.
I Agree

Brisbane, CA

#12 Jan 8, 2009
Both Paul Bach and Frank Kertai need to get a life.
Craig

Cupertino, CA

#13 Jan 8, 2009
Terrorists!? Get a life.
Where is AmeriGas moving by the way?
PlanningAdvocate

Scotts Valley, CA

#14 Jan 8, 2009
I disagree with the council, this move is not a wise one. The El Pueblo and Janis area is already severely congested with with traffic from employees and shipping from all the businesses in the area and pedestrians due to the total lack of sidewalks. If they want to move two propane businesses into this area, which by their nature involve delivery traffic, the infrastructure must first be improved to alleviate the current traffic and support the increased traffic from the new businesses. It appears the council is just so sick of the issue, and so anxious to get the City Center started before the failing economy makes it infeasible, that they are pushing this through without establishing the necessary infrastructure to make it workable.
mhs

Mountain View, CA

#15 Jan 8, 2009
planning blah blah blah
Longtime Local

AOL

#16 Jan 8, 2009
"Why do we have to take any risk at all?," Scotts Valley resident Paul Bach asked. "Why can't this be moved to a rural location with no one living around it? This is a 'not in my city' issue."
Well Paul, do you by any chance know we've had the risk for 54 years while the tanks were in the middle of the retail corridor, close to Skypark homes (190 homes), soccer fields, paygrounds etc. The new location is safer by far. It is in an industrial location. It would be too bad if Threshold decides to relocate but are they panic driven or have they really looked at the facts. C'mon folks, we are at risk every day in every step we take. Shall we dig a hole and hide from life and progress or move forward with confidence?
Good job by the city council! This is called "progress" with common sense and statistics that back it up.
Rocket J Squirrel

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Jan 8, 2009
"Why do we have to take any risk at all?" Scotts Valley resident Paul Bach asked. "Why can't this be moved to a rural location with no one living around it? This is a not in my city' issue." It had moved to a rural area when it first opened with no one around it till Scotts Valley expanded and now it's become a NIMBY issue. Gas tanker trucks driving on 17 pose a much greater risk than a fixed propane facility. Just exactly what would be a rural area anymore in SC co?

"Threshold, a vitamin manufacturer on Janis Way with about 600 employees, said the company will move to Santa Cruz or Watsonville if the council approves the propane move."
Threshold, you belong in SC or why don't you consider moving your whole enchilada to Mexico where you can pay even cheaper wages than you do now.

"I'm not as worried about human error as I am with human anger," resident Dwight Wilson said. "Think about a suicide bomber hijacking a gas truck and driving it into the tank."
Yeah and I'm sure Scotts Valley is high on every nuts list too. It's current location is much more accessible and visible than it would be on Janis Way. You forgot the what if aliens came and abducted the tanks too theory.
Personally, I'm glad the newly formed Pacific Bio Fuel group decided to move to Monterey co where they can move ahead on production instead of the last 5 years of foot dragging by sc and sc co while crying we want to be a capitol of alternative energy and not in our back yard at the same time.
Denizen

Scotts Valley, CA

#18 Jan 8, 2009
I love the video ad to the right with the big explosions! Did you guys do that on purpose?*wink wink*
SVMom

San Jose, CA

#20 Jan 8, 2009
Honestly, is anyone really surprised that "Scotts Valley council clears path for move of propane tanks"? They do what they want, how they want, and when they want, regardless of what the citizens of Scotts Valley say, think, feel.
NIMBY Whiner

United States

#21 Jan 8, 2009
PlanningAdvocate is right on. I have a front-row seat through my office window to what currently happens along Janis Way, and it's already a frightening situation with crazy-ass speeders, employees walking in the streets from lack of sidewalks, and delivery trucks that frequently unload from the street, creating hazards for traffic and people on either side to get around them. This was a poor move on the City Council's part, whose dollar-sign-filled myopic eyes are tragically locked on their asinine Town Center. Good luck with the lawsuits that will help prevent the move from happening anytime soon, or never at all, hopefully.
love scotts valley

Salinas, CA

#22 Jan 8, 2009
Threshold !!!!!!! Where was the owner last night????? I think the City should look into there parking. They have too many employees per building(very unsafe). They don't have enough parking spaces per building. Thershold makes the traffic a problem on janis way. Use your loading docks instead of the middle of the road to unload those large trucks. I think the Lipton building would fit you great. Pleanty of parking and not hundreds of people walking up and down a PUBLIC street!!!!!

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