Community pours out heart in prayer

Community pours out heart in prayer

There are 111 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 20, 2008, titled Community pours out heart in prayer. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Dozens of cars slowly circled the block Sunday where two young women and their children were slain last week as family members, friends and others touched by the Northside killings called for peace during a ...

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Who s with me

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jan 21, 2008
The very SAME ones saying these drug-killings MUST STOP and questioning "Where are the police?" are the VERY same ones protesting the police when they raid drug houses and pea-shake houses and when they stop/legally-search drug dealers' cars in the middle of the night.

Let the cops do their jobs and they will. They will run the dopers off your corners. They will treat your neighborhoods like they were THEIR neighborhoods. They will stop these killings.

If you keep crying FOUL every time they arrest one of your "own" then you can count on more of the same.

Let me see a "vigil" in front of an ACTIVE dope house (pre-killings) and I will show you community acticity that counts.

Until then, your marches/memorials will make you all feel good, the survivors, but will not do any REAL good for anyone. Your efforts are nice. They make news. But they are like the toothless lion.. no threat to anyone.

Put Spears in charge of the troops again. Support him and his men/women. You will be surprised what happens.

The ICLU will scream, but more of your good neighborhood people will live to raise their children in a safe environment.

10-8, No Report
PRAYERS

AOL

#2 Jan 21, 2008
MY PRAYERS TO ALL INVOLVED..

GOD BLESS YOU ALL..

VERY SADDENED
vee

Milwaukee, WI

#3 Jan 21, 2008
Christians is time to be proactive and stop reacting tp everything. I believe in the power of prayer but why are we praying after the fact. Let something happen - now it is time to pray. This strategy is not working out very well is it. The are quite a few churches in the area where this horrible crime took place. Church please come from behind the four walls of your building and get out on the streets and witness. Are neighborhoods are falling apart and there a churches on every block. Something is wrong with this, we are not doing what we have been called to do. We are sitting back and watching unfold from inside of our churches. God please forgive us.
Indy Realtor

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Jan 21, 2008
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the idea of a drive by prayer for 15 min and saturating the area..I bet those nasty ole devil spirits were running for cover! Good job prayer warriors!

“Trying to make sense of it all”

Since: Oct 07

Lake Titicaca!

#5 Jan 21, 2008
Saturate the whole area and community with prayer? What the hell kind of voodoo nincompoopery is that? Let me know how that works out.

And I'm sorry, forgiving someone for murdering is not an option. It's an unforgivable act. And you'll be waiting a long time for "God" to take vengeance; that's what the courts are for.

And I'll tell you why this happened. It happened because we are a poorly evolved species that has a bit more evolving to do before we can separate ourselves from our primal instincts. It's not because there is some crazy-ass god in the sky that has some mysterious plan in the works. The sooner people learn that, the sooner they'll be happy, because they won't have to make their belief of a loving god jive with the misery that we inflict on our fellow creatures.

Things happen because they happen--no further explanation needed.

And what the hell is with the Star continually fawning over these prayer vigil stories like they're a good thing, instead of getting to the heart of the matter?
Parent

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Jan 21, 2008
Who s with me wrote:
The very SAME ones saying these drug-killings MUST STOP and questioning "Where are the police?" are the VERY same ones protesting the police when they raid drug houses and pea-shake houses and when they stop/legally-search drug dealers' cars in the middle of the night.
Let the cops do their jobs and they will. They will run the dopers off your corners. They will treat your neighborhoods like they were THEIR neighborhoods. They will stop these killings.
If you keep crying FOUL every time they arrest one of your "own" then you can count on more of the same.
Let me see a "vigil" in front of an ACTIVE dope house (pre-killings) and I will show you community acticity that counts.
Until then, your marches/memorials will make you all feel good, the survivors, but will not do any REAL good for anyone. Your efforts are nice. They make news. But they are like the toothless lion.. no threat to anyone.
Put Spears in charge of the troops again. Support him and his men/women. You will be surprised what happens.
The ICLU will scream, but more of your good neighborhood people will live to raise their children in a safe environment.
10-8, No Report
No one is with you, twit. Stop spreading lies. People DO copperate with the police. Then some judge lets them back on the steet again to repeat the offenses. The state and city governments says they can't afford bigger prisons -yet we rent prison space to another state? Stop the "pea-shake" references and help by reporting the meth labs in the state that are a much bigger problem. THE ICLU would be behind you all the way. Another lie you told.
Citizen x

Logansport, IN

#7 Jan 21, 2008
I am truly saddened by these murders. That said, I agree with "Who's with me".

Also, those young women had no business placing their children in harm's way by living in or hanging out at a drug house.

And perhaps the one woman's father might have gone there and physically removed his daughter and grandchild.

There's a big elephant in the room which is being ignored by most and certainly by the Star. This was the site of an ongoing criminal enterprise. And while the murders were terrible and wrong, they were not a surprising consequence.
ms b

Ashburn, VA

#8 Jan 21, 2008
we should pray about this!!!!! and not blame the vitims my heart goes out to the family and the other two children with out their mother. nay the god of isreal bless them . my love goes out to the family and i will pray for them. peace and love to this world. god is not happy with any us and donot blame the victims'
Victim

Durham, NC

#10 Jan 21, 2008
Who s with me wrote:
The very SAME ones saying these drug-killings MUST STOP and questioning "Where are the police?" are the VERY same ones protesting the police when they raid drug houses and pea-shake houses and when they stop/legally-search drug dealers' cars in the middle of the night.
Let the cops do their jobs and they will. They will run the dopers off your corners. They will treat your neighborhoods like they were THEIR neighborhoods. They will stop these killings.
If you keep crying FOUL every time they arrest one of your "own" then you can count on more of the same.
Let me see a "vigil" in front of an ACTIVE dope house (pre-killings) and I will show you community acticity that counts.
Until then, your marches/memorials will make you all feel good, the survivors, but will not do any REAL good for anyone. Your efforts are nice. They make news. But they are like the toothless lion.. no threat to anyone.
Put Spears in charge of the troops again. Support him and his men/women. You will be surprised what happens.
The ICLU will scream, but more of your good neighborhood people will live to raise their children in a safe environment.
10-8, No Report
I am with you all the way!
T-Mag

United States

#11 Jan 21, 2008
The loss of life is always sad. In this case generations of poor parenting led to these losses. The parents of the murders did not instill a respect for others in their children, the parents of the murdered babies did not put the values of the childrens lives above their own and keep them from harms way, the parents he mothers involved did not instill values in them or they would not have been hanging, dating and having sex with drug dealers.

These "victims" in this case are the poster children of how not to live if you are a women. Sleeping around, kids they cannot afford without a partner to help raise them, hanging with drug dealers and thugs. We need to show middle school and high school girls this is how you and your babies end up if you don't respect yourself enough to wait for sex until you are ready, and don't respect your children enough to select a good father who will be there for them everyday of their lives.
hhhhmmmmm

Florence, KY

#13 Jan 21, 2008
The women were dope dealers. Shooting comes with the territory since the days of Al Copone. I do feel sorry fo the babies, the were innocent.
stop

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Jan 21, 2008
Stop buying drugs. Stop supporting the drug culture.
poster one

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Jan 21, 2008
Who s with me wrote:
The very SAME ones saying these drug-killings MUST STOP and questioning "Where are the police?" are the VERY same ones protesting the police when they raid drug houses and pea-shake houses and when they stop/legally-search drug dealers' cars in the middle of the night.
Let the cops do their jobs and they will. They will run the dopers off your corners. They will treat your neighborhoods like they were THEIR neighborhoods. They will stop these killings.
If you keep crying FOUL every time they arrest one of your "own" then you can count on more of the same.
Let me see a "vigil" in front of an ACTIVE dope house (pre-killings) and I will show you community acticity that counts.
Until then, your marches/memorials will make you all feel good, the survivors, but will not do any REAL good for anyone. Your efforts are nice. They make news. But they are like the toothless lion.. no threat to anyone.
Put Spears in charge of the troops again. Support him and his men/women. You will be surprised what happens.
The ACLU will scream, but more of your good neighborhood people will live to raise their children in a safe environment.
10-8, No Report
I'm with you!

There's a definite time for prayer; there's a definite time for action. Right now people do need to pray, and evidently they are. That's a good thing.

With that said, let's not forget that after the praying is finished, it's time for real action by the community.

God gave us eyes for seeing and ears for hearing. Let's start using them. If we see or hear about anything suspicious, questionable, or illegal occuring in our neighborhood, our block, or next door, then let's use those God-given senses and remember that the police can only protect us from what we are willing to report.

If we don't provide information, then we're a large part of the problem. It's no longer excusable or honorable to turn our heads and say that we don't want to "meddle" or it's "none of our business". If we don't start "meddling" and making it "part of our business", then the killings and violence will just continue.
joe

United States

#16 Jan 21, 2008
Where was MLK?
John

United States

#17 Jan 21, 2008
Where was God?
Delancey

Chicago, IL

#19 Jan 21, 2008
Citizen x wrote:
I am truly saddened by these murders. That said, I agree with "Who's with me".
Also, those young women had no business placing their children in harm's way by living in or hanging out at a drug house.
And perhaps the one woman's father might have gone there and physically removed his daughter and grandchild.
There's a big elephant in the room which is being ignored by most and certainly by the Star. This was the site of an ongoing criminal enterprise. And while the murders were terrible and wrong, they were not a surprising consequence.
I see your point just a little bit.Should this have happened?Of course not,but even if you have dynomite .jewelry gold,bombs or whatever.No one has a write to walk in anyone's house to kill,steal and wreak devastaion on people.I agree the children were in harms way.These women were young and immature and probably thought they were invinsible.Every body makes bad choices.I believe if they had known they would have protected their children at all cost.
poster one

Indianapolis, IN

#20 Jan 21, 2008
John wrote:
Where was God?
<< Joe: Where was MLK? >>

John and Joe,
You're off the topic, gentlemen. Every group has its class clowns.
None of your business

Carmel, IN

#22 Jan 21, 2008
I know Andrea and her family very well, We all need to stop being so negative & critial. This situation that has happened has affected us all here in this Great City. We all need to stop and think and Thank God that our families are not going thru what these families are going thru. My heart goes out to the families, I love Andrea and her family. If you read this message, please have a moment of silence for both families. We all need to Pray.
To forgive is divine

Chicago, IL

#24 Jan 21, 2008
Speaking from experience, it is better to forgive than to walk around with hate in your heart for the rest of your life. Life is too short for that amount of anger.

I'm glad to hear that the father is open to forgiveness. It will not happen overnight but it will happen eventually.

Richard

Georgetown, KY

#25 Jan 21, 2008
Only the children were victims. The women were dealing drugs and living the thug life. Their very actions put themselves and their families at risk.

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