The new mall in town: Tanger Outlet

The new mall in town: Tanger Outlet

There are 120 comments on the Newsday story from Oct 21, 2008, titled The new mall in town: Tanger Outlet. In it, Newsday reports that:

This is Steven Tanger's mantra, one he's repeated often in recent weeks: "In good times, people love a bargain.

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Since: Feb 08

Nassau County

#110 Oct 23, 2008
A LIL PISSY wrote:
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blah blah blah??.. the reason we all live here, is because it's not like the city or nasty nassau.. congested, overwhelemed, and traffic packed everyday!! so this is a little overwheleming.. if we wanted traffic and congestion, and tighter areas, and stores on every corner.. we would live an area that supports that..
The Island is shot... taxes, traffic, congestion, no planning, an aging population, and a part of New York State - more than three strikes and you're out. Ugh...
Fact or Fiction

New York, NY

#112 Oct 23, 2008
deer parker wrote:
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figures a loser like you would post in spanish. Do Deer Park a favor and you and your whole familia and companeros stay in Hicksville - Deer Park is part of America and we speak English here.
Sory to burst your bubble, but if you were there yesterday you wouldnt be making this statement. It was like traveling to El Salvador. Today will be worse because its now open to all.
Fact or Fiction

New York, NY

#113 Oct 23, 2008
you guys are weird wrote:
blah blah blah.. I heard enough complaining. if you guys care so much about not having a big mall built near your area because it will increase tax and traffic and this and that, you should just live in a farm out somewhere in North Dakota or something, where it is in the middle of NOWHERE. By then, you guys will start complaining about things being too far away and not so convenience and then START TO MOVE TO PLACES THAT ARE MORE CONVENIENT. Taxes will increase no matter what. Face it. The mall being there might actually help increase your property value because people do like convenience.. why do you think manhattan housing price didn't drop as much as long islands. Manhattan is compact and full of people and people demand the area due to location of convenience. That is why some executive who earns millions lives in manhattan even though other people will say it is 'congested..blah'. The fact that they are building a mall- an outlet mall, means that area has something unique about it whether it is traffic convenience or in the middle of the long island convenience. It also mean that the area is in development and place being in development will means more people which means more demand for your houses which will help your property value. Or just something special about Deer Park. I mean have you guys ever think of the positives? I will bet you money that you guys will go there even though you guys are complaining about it. Why? Does it make sense to go to Riverhead Tanger Outlet or travel up to Woodbury Commons, when you have a store near you? Unless there is no store that you like there..(such as Ralph Lauren for me) and it is a total dump, you will go there. It's common sense and I can guarantee. Mark my words. People just don't like change. But if you don't like change and there is no change for the better, we will still be riding horses and there will be no computers. Remember, some people in the past were against computers; now they have to use it and finds it helpful. I lived on Long Island for the past 15 years and I will not mind having that big outlet mall near me. It's just like in the past they decide to built a HS near my area. I never opposed, but many people did because they said "oh, it's my tax they are taking..blah'. Well, now the same people say it's not bad because it's close to them and they don't have to drive as far and are rooting for their HS's sport team. People just complain too much and never think of both sides.
You havent got a clue. the property values are dropping in this area because they did nothing to accomodate the increased traffic into the area. Would you buy a house on a street that used to only have local traffic and now is host to hundres of trucks and traffic jams ?
Comparing Manhattan to LI shows just how little you know. First off teh market in Manhattan is suffering just like everywhere else. In Manhattan you DONT have to drive. you have mass transit, unlike on LI. The locals in this area have NO choice but to drive and even if they did manage to catch a bus, they wouldnt be able to go very far. Unless you have been in this area shut up. Newsday claims they have made many improvements to help the traffic, hahahahahahaha I live here and they have done NOTHING except add some traffic lights on Commack road ( Single lane from the LIE to just north of the outlets). The intersection of Long Island Ave and Commack Road at rush hour is horrible, all the station traffic entering Commack road plus the crossing gates have caused backups, now its worse.
What many of you out of town commenters dont realize is that they have a rail yard planed for the site just north of these outlets and will not make any traffic changes when they build that. Property values around malls like this drop rapidly.
Fact or Fiction

New York, NY

#114 Oct 23, 2008
patty wrote:
stay away. The traffic problem is crazy!!
I have a better idea, all the residents drive there and stop your cars in the street. Pretend you are stuck !!!! hahahahahahaha
She will work at Tanger

Bronx, NY

#115 Oct 23, 2008
deer parker wrote:
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figures a loser like you would post in spanish. Do Deer Park a favor and you and your whole familia and companeros stay in Hicksville - Deer Park is part of America and we speak English here.
This person is a perfect candidate to work at the Arches!!! They don't crack down on it in Riverhead so whats the differance in Deerpark? Steve Levy.
anonymous

Shirley, NY

#116 Oct 24, 2008
JOHNNY ROCKETS WILL BE THERE TOOO MMM! GREAT FOOD AND EXPERIENCE!@#$
You guys are so weird

Huntington, NY

#118 Oct 27, 2008
Fact or Fiction wrote:
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.... Property values around malls like this drop rapidly.
Uh, we are in a housing crisis so whether or not there is a mall, it will still drop rapidly; especially on Long Island. Since Deer Park is a dump like people said, it will drop even faster, unless there is some external stimulus around that area to help maintain values, it will drop no matter what. So basically, building that mall is a NO LOSS situation for Deer Park in terms of property values, but a possible gain. If they built in the Hamptons where the multimillion dollar houses are, well, it might drop their values, because the estates nice and high end look will be destroyed by the mall. But Deer Park is more a middle to lower class, and those people tend to like convenience. Like I said, I lived in both Suffolk county for the past 15 years and I actually used to live in Deer Park for a year, right on Deer Park Avenue near the area where there is a Dairy Barn. Yes, Manhattan drops, but like I said, it did not drop as much as the Island and in fact, some sustain. Believe me, you also don't have clue about Manhattan prices if you know my connections. Also even if Manhattan prices drops, can you tell me if you can afford any ownerships, such as a coop or a condo in Manhattan compare to a Deer Park's big house.
MASHED POTATOES

Coram, NY

#119 Oct 29, 2008
Think the tax advantages are going to be great? Think again. The Riverhead Justice Court has the dubious pleasure of handling hundreds of shoplifting cases, assaults, robberies and other crimes unless they are diverted to the County as felonies, but the expense to the Town Justice Court has been a hardship. I don't see Tanger kicking in. The only thing they do is shift their internal problems, which they should guard against, to local government.

The Riverhead Town Police Department is basically Tanger's free Police Department and the Court, its handmaiden.

Tax revenue is not supposed to only benefit the developer and of course, the crooked politicians who grease the permit process.

Downtown Riverhead died the day the Tanger Riverhead opened, and it has never recovered. Sears left, Swezeys left, Ben Franklin left, West Marine left, Richard York Shoes left, and many otheres too numerous to mention. There are still dozens of vacant stores.

Tanger corporatizes America and small towns are their victims. It is all about land grabs, tax breaks, developing even into the Pine Barrons with a vengence, and stealing from the taxpayers with decades of tax breaks.

NO MORE BIG BOX MALLS OR BIG BOX STORES ON LI!!

Does the vacant Home Depot at Rte 112 disgust anyone other than myself, or is corporate America invited to steal our land, squeeze the value and then abandon their hulking, disturbingly unkempt vacant properties? That parking lot has become a sleepover truck stop for 18 wheelers. Nice image there!

In addition, Tanger reneged on many, many promises to the Riverhead Town Board...after it opened, including opening restaurants, which business it promised would be diverted to the downtown area. They never even made an effort and the hardworking, struggling Riverhead farmers and teachers and cops and firefighters and families are left holding the bag.

THANKS FOR NOTHING TANGER FAMILY, I HAVE NEVER PATRONIZED ANY OF YOUR STORES AND I NEVER WILL. YOU ARE EVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL PREDATORS IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA.
Brooke

United States

#120 Oct 29, 2008
Steve Tanger wrote:
I built this new mall and intend to make huge profits for Tanger shareholders. To Maintain it, We will employee the same work force as we do at our sister outlet center in Riverhead . All maintenance and repair work will be done will be given to the lowest bidder. Businesses bidding on this type of work must of coarse show that the people they are employing are American citizens. Just as LARO does for us who currently maintains the outlets in Riverhead. We here at Tanger care about Long Island future and want to make every effort to improve Long Islanders way of life by making sure that the people we employ are making a honest livable wage to take care of there families here on the Island. Thank You, Steve Tanger.
Shut up Steve...you're a waste of life.
Real Facts

New York, NY

#121 Oct 29, 2008
MASHED POTATOES wrote:
Think the tax advantages are going to be great? Think again. The Riverhead Justice Court has the dubious pleasure of handling hundreds of shoplifting cases, assaults, robberies and other crimes unless they are diverted to the County as felonies, but the expense to the Town Justice Court has been a hardship. I don't see Tanger kicking in. The only thing they do is shift their internal problems, which they should guard against, to local government.
The Riverhead Town Police Department is basically Tanger's free Police Department and the Court, its handmaiden.
Tax revenue is not supposed to only benefit the developer and of course, the crooked politicians who grease the permit process.
Downtown Riverhead died the day the Tanger Riverhead opened, and it has never recovered. Sears left, Swezeys left, Ben Franklin left, West Marine left, Richard York Shoes left, and many otheres too numerous to mention. There are still dozens of vacant stores.
Tanger corporatizes America and small towns are their victims. It is all about land grabs, tax breaks, developing even into the Pine Barrons with a vengence, and stealing from the taxpayers with decades of tax breaks.
NO MORE BIG BOX MALLS OR BIG BOX STORES ON LI!!
Does the vacant Home Depot at Rte 112 disgust anyone other than myself, or is corporate America invited to steal our land, squeeze the value and then abandon their hulking, disturbingly unkempt vacant properties? That parking lot has become a sleepover truck stop for 18 wheelers. Nice image there!
In addition, Tanger reneged on many, many promises to the Riverhead Town Board...after it opened, including opening restaurants, which business it promised would be diverted to the downtown area. They never even made an effort and the hardworking, struggling Riverhead farmers and teachers and cops and firefighters and families are left holding the bag.
THANKS FOR NOTHING TANGER FAMILY, I HAVE NEVER PATRONIZED ANY OF YOUR STORES AND I NEVER WILL. YOU ARE EVIRONMENTAL AND FINANCIAL PREDATORS IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA.
I am not familiar with the Home Depot area. However, is there any way the town can condemn the property? I am not saying buying it by eminent domain, I am saying taking it because it is abandoned. Or raise the tax for abandoned property?

I know a property owner by me was threatened, and finally cleaned up a strip mall that was becoming an eyesore.
Riverhead

Bronx, NY

#122 Oct 30, 2008
Why doesn't Newsday go to Riverhead and talk to the managers out there how they feel about the new Tanger? They have everything to lose in Riverhead and nothing to gain. I guess there is too much adverting dollars involved for the media to print the truth. Much like our presidential campaign.
Colleen

Huntington, NY

#123 Nov 3, 2008
If you are going to the outlets/make sure you plan to spend the day. There are many great deals + the stores are giving coupons on your receipts. Van Huesen has some great deals for men and woman. The down side of the outlets/if the weather is bad don't go all the walking is outside/ it started to rain when i went and we had to leave/ we were getting soaked. So plan to go on a sunny and warm day.
Carol

Greenvale, NY

#124 Nov 3, 2008
Parking was absolutely atrocious. And this was before 11 am! Half the stores are still closed as are the resturants. Except for the Christmas Tree Shop, there were no bargains. I much prefer the Tanger in Riverhead and will shop there and not Deer Park. Lots of people shopping but very few were carrying shopping bags!
Real Facts

New York, NY

#125 Nov 3, 2008
Colleen wrote:
If you are going to the outlets/make sure you plan to spend the day. There are many great deals + the stores are giving coupons on your receipts. Van Huesen has some great deals for men and woman. The down side of the outlets/if the weather is bad don't go all the walking is outside/ it started to rain when i went and we had to leave/ we were getting soaked. So plan to go on a sunny and warm day.
Great, another mall my wife will hate.

I guess people have different preferences, however here in New York my wife prefers a shopping experience where she can go to several stores without having to deal with the elements.

My wife does not like the “outdoor” malls such as those in Harriman, or the new mall they built to replace the Beltz outlets in Orlando. They may be nice when it is 72 and mostly sunny, but not when its raining, snowing or baking…
Pix

Hillside, NJ

#126 Nov 5, 2008
Anybody thats seen the bellport outlets has seen what riverhead tanger outlets will look like in 5 years. Empty and Abondoned and anything vacant building for people to smash and vandalize oh joy!! Yeah Riverhead has some different stores and a lot more food places but come on we didnt need another outlet center in suffolk county. We have 4 that I can think of off the top of my head. Its gorgeous and the movie theatre is awesome but the location sucks and most of the stores in deer park are duplicates of the ones in riverhead which a lot of people are not going to be going to. Not to mention they should have waited to open until all the food places and everything was done because if you walk around it now it feels like you are walking through the south shore mall with all the empty stores. Long Island is falling to the waste side because they are turning everything into condos or stores. I dont like what long island is turning into at all and just going over by the bellport outlets is depressing because the entire one side is almost empty. Its scary to think that long island is becoming more and more like the city everyday and the government doesnt care. I will still go to the riverhead outlets because of the disney store, and the other stores that are out there that they dont have in deer park including a proper foodcourt. The traffic in deer park is going to be ridiculous. I went to the movies there opening day and it took us almost 2 hours to get out of the parking lot. Its ridiculous.
kiki

AOL

#127 Nov 13, 2008
Traffic is a nightmare, a lot of stores not open............just a huge mess that we voted not to have here
deer parker

Brooklyn, NY

#128 Nov 13, 2008
kiki wrote:
Traffic is a nightmare, a lot of stores not open..........just a huge mess that we voted not to have here
Amen to this. totally agree.
Lucky Duv

Bellmore, NY

#129 Nov 16, 2008
Tang Green wrote:
Things that s-u-c-k on LI in order:
(1) Newsday
(2) Shopping Malls
(3) Traffic
Don't forget the TAXES!
Adam Viccaro

Brooklyn, NY

#130 Nov 17, 2008
I love this f'n place so much. It makes me horny. Somtimes i go into saks and try on womens underwear. My name is adam.
Nick

Jersey City, NJ

#131 May 22, 2009
Pix wrote:
Anybody thats seen the bellport outlets has seen what riverhead tanger outlets will look like in 5 years. Empty and Abondoned and anything vacant building for people to smash and vandalize oh joy!! Yeah Riverhead has some different stores and a lot more food places but come on we didnt need another outlet center in suffolk county. We have 4 that I can think of off the top of my head. Its gorgeous and the movie theatre is awesome but the location sucks and most of the stores in deer park are duplicates of the ones in riverhead which a lot of people are not going to be going to. Not to mention they should have waited to open until all the food places and everything was done because if you walk around it now it feels like you are walking through the south shore mall with all the empty stores. Long Island is falling to the waste side because they are turning everything into condos or stores. I dont like what long island is turning into at all and just going over by the bellport outlets is depressing because the entire one side is almost empty. Its scary to think that long island is becoming more and more like the city everyday and the government doesnt care. I will still go to the riverhead outlets because of the disney store, and the other stores that are out there that they dont have in deer park including a proper foodcourt. The traffic in deer park is going to be ridiculous. I went to the movies there opening day and it took us almost 2 hours to get out of the parking lot. Its ridiculous.
Y the hell would u go on opening day and not expect traffic? Try going on a regular day early and see how the traffic is. Your probably one of those dummies who get ot a mall about 1 pm and surprised at the crowds

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