Restoration Hardware on St. Paul's Grand Ave. to close

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Restoration Hardware on Grand Avenue took over the space vacated by Knowlan's grocery.

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ralph

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Saw that coming. Way over priced.
ralph

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butch wrote:
The town has bad demographics and is too poor to warrant an upscale retailer.
Mmmm hmmm....riiiiiight.
ralph

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Don't criticize prices when they are based on the high cost to operate in that dump of a city. Not being able to pay their price doesn't mean that the higher price wasn't warranted for the product value offfered. They have a mark-up based on costs and what profit they need to support being able to stay in operation.
Business want to provide goods and services at a rate consistent with a competitive marketplace. Less choice won't bring the cost down if anyone would even want to open a store there. Bottom line: the city is hostile to all private business which is why there is so little commercial base. Total ghetto!!
While I don't totally disagree with your argument of 'hostile environment' with regards to running a biz in STP, especially Grand ave, but even in spite of all this we still have plenty of private biz all across the city today. You're disgruntled to say the least.
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Place was overpriced and overhyped, would never buy anything from there. Just because you are on Grand and you have a fancy building - probably requiring more overhead than really needed, doesn't mean you can jack your prices up.
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Civitas wrote:
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Obama didn't cause any earthquake.
It was the teachers' unions.
What's going on here? Ever since Jeb sit down with Obama, not everything is "George Bush's fault" anymore? Damn, this global warming thing is making everything different.
butch

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ralph wrote:
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While I don't totally disagree with your argument of 'hostile environment' with regards to running a biz in STP, especially Grand ave, but even in spite of all this we still have plenty of private biz all across the city today. You're disgruntled to say the least.
Not in the least. All but a few like you would agree and have voted with their feet. The city has to bribe business to even get a whiff and once they see, they run the other direction. Even the loons won't overcome common sense and economics!
Beth W

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Freedom Lover wrote:
I made the mistake of enteringthat store once. They charge way too much!
That's why it's good to have the Walmart for you.
Bobster

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Mar 11, 2011
 
Not enough snooty folks to keep them in business. I like the Frattalone's Ace Hardware down the street better.
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Beth W wrote:
<quoted text>That's why it's good to have the Walmart for you.
Walmart and Sam's club rock! I shop there a lot. Chips Ahoy cookies for $1.89. At least a buck less than everyone else. Stock up!
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Mar 11, 2011
 
All part of the hope and change program...coming to a neighborhood near you!

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It seems like stores are dropping like fly's. There is another higher end furniture store in the south eastern part of the united States called Robert Stucky that just closed their doors. I think that had 20 stores and was kind of like Gabberts used to be before HOM purchased them. I guess to find good quality you have to go online. I know of two local internet companies that are doing well Bellacor and www.lifestyleshomedecor.com I saw them both

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It was a trendy place for the wealthy and their interior designers. It was not a place for the average household just for the Summit Ave elites
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Their prices did them in. When you can find the same items from any number of online retailers at lesser cost. They have decent quality, but they cannot compete at the prices offered by other retailers who are either online or in locations that have less overhead. The one time I bought something there, it was on clearance for 75% off.
You have fuzzy math

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butch wrote:
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Don't criticize prices when they are based on the high cost to operate in that dump of a city. Not being able to pay their price doesn't mean that the higher price wasn't warranted for the product value offfered. They have a mark-up based on costs and what profit they need to support being able to stay in operation.
Business want to provide goods and services at a rate consistent with a competitive marketplace. Less choice won't bring the cost down if anyone would even want to open a store there. Bottom line: the city is hostile to all private business which is why there is so little commercial base. Total ghetto!!
So, according to your theory, the prices at the Wild Onion (directly across street from Restoration Hardware) should be much higher than say Champps in Maplewood. I have been to both places and the prices are very similar.

Your theory doesn't hold water. Restoration Hardware caters to a crowd that is used to paying high prices for products...plain and simple. Not too much different from Crate and Barrel, Pottery Barn, etc. I'm sure doing business on Grand Ave is much more expensive than on University Avenue, but not enough to drive prices through the roof like your theory.

I agree with the other poster, you are just crabby Butch.
You have fuzzy math

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Beth W wrote:
<quoted text>That's why it's good to have the Walmart for you.
...and that's why it's good to have places like Restoration Hardware for you. A place you can go to pay inflated prices to make yourself feel elite.

I know your type. During college I worked for a contractor that did high-end restorations. Most of the snooty clients refused to put anything from a box store in their home for fear that their friends and family would find out they bought something "off the rack".

Funny thing is, my boss always complained that the "high-end" clients had their checks bounce much more often than the average folks.

So Beth, keep overpaying for your goods and services to make yourself feel better...that is your choice. But don't look down your nose at someone that knows the value of a dollar.
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Businesses are now starting to recognize the effects of Mark Dayton. There are many that have been holding on by a thread. Any new taxes will certainly be the last nail in the coffin. Watch MN unemployment surge under his reign.
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dsb wrote:
The Galleria location has been closed for at least a couple of years.
No it hasn't, I was just there 2 weeks ago and it is up and fully functional.

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butch wrote:
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Not in the least. All but a few like you would agree and have voted with their feet. The city has to bribe business to even get a whiff and once they see, they run the other direction. Even the loons won't overcome common sense and economics!
I see. That must be why Cray Computers is setting up a new Saint Paul office. Of course!
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Beth W wrote:
<quoted text>That's why it's good to have the Walmart for you.
My house is mostly antiques so I know what I'm addressing. I have one of the old Nutting warehouse carts like what they sell at Restoration Hardware for over nine hundred dollars. I only paid somewhere around twenty for mine at an auction. Mine has the Nutting MFG Co. Fairbault, MINN logo on it too. The same can be said about antique lighting. John's Antiques 7th Street sells some very nice old lights that are in need of restoration. If you can make a lamp work you can have one for a fraction of what Restoration wants.
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Madaman wrote:
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I see. That must be why Cray Computers is setting up a new Saint Paul office. Of course!
Yeah, Cray Computers. Maybe next they can get Sperry Univac, and maybe
Commodore. I hear that cassete tape for memory is really slick.

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