Rocktenn and unions
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Mill worker

Lanham, MD

#1 Feb 16, 2012
Has anyone been thru a union negotiation with Rocktenn care to comment on how that turned out? Just wondering it seems we are getting no where!
Out To Pasture

Spotsylvania, VA

#2 Feb 21, 2012
Our box plant went into negotiations in August of 2010 with Smurfit-Stone. It was obvious they were taking orders from someone else because we also got nowhere. After negotiating on and off for 6-7 months we realized who was calling the shots when the announcement was made of a pending buy out. Then they announced they were implementing on us. After one more round of negotiations they got our attendance policy out of the contract, retiree life insurance and all double time would end in 2013. Yes, we were one of the plants who fought like hell to keep the double time. After the buy-out was complete one of RKT's henchmen came in, looked around and acted as if he were standing in a sewer. Four months later we got our WARN notice. RKT does not play. They are cut throat as hell. We did get the standard Smurfit-Stone severance package, which was one week pay for each year of service up to 26 weeks. Word is that ended with our shut down. Good luck to you guys.
Another mill worker

Panama City, FL

#3 May 16, 2012
Currently going thru negotiations in Panama City, FL and gettin nowhere with RockTenn. Heard try are using the old Smurfit negotiators. Also read the employee handbook page 12 I think where RockTenn is down on unions. Basically it says in the hand book that they don't like unions and want to keep them out of non union plants. Dirty bunch of people although our local management is decent they have grown up here and are from here and have been thru 3 ownership changes over the last 30 years.
FernBch

Fernandina Beach, FL

#4 May 23, 2012
Another mill worker wrote:
Currently going thru negotiations in Panama City, FL and gettin nowhere with RockTenn. Heard try are using the old Smurfit negotiators. Also read the employee handbook page 12 I think where RockTenn is down on unions. Basically it says in the hand book that they don't like unions and want to keep them out of non union plants. Dirty bunch of people although our local management is decent they have grown up here and are from here and have been thru 3 ownership changes over the last 30 years.
We have just started Nego. seems like they want to drag it out until Sept. makes me wonder if they have 4 mills with no contract, they are going to implement some company wide contract or get out.
I heard you guys are holding out, good luck, we are all going to need it.
mill worker

West Point, GA

#5 May 31, 2012
FernBch wrote:
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We have just started Nego. seems like they want to drag it out until Sept. makes me wonder if they have 4 mills with no contract, they are going to implement some company wide contract or get out.
I heard you guys are holding out, good luck, we are all going to need it.
What going on in West Point nego. should be what eveyone is watching.
Another mill worker

Panama City, FL

#6 Jun 10, 2012
West Point is an important one to watch. I think that is why the company is dragging feet on everything. They want to see how it plays out just as we do. But right now it seems they have little interest in settling a contract with us or any of the other plants. God Bless all of you going thru negotiations. Heard Fernandina has the same negotiator as PC.
just got back

Quinton, VA

#7 Jun 22, 2012
I work at west point they are crapping all over us they got the union members fighting among themselves, they have played us like a fiddle. a lot of members has dropped out of the union. we have got no support from the U.S.W.
new tenn

Lawrenceville, GA

#8 Jun 24, 2012
I worked at a plant with another paper company that USW Union took over our old union and they let the company do what ever they wanted they just take our union dues .
mill worker

Lynn Haven, FL

#9 Jul 8, 2012
I hope that we will make are voice heard at paper conference. U.S.W needs to answer for alot. If the right question are asked.
mill worker

Lynn Haven, FL

#10 Jul 10, 2012
If you say what your thinking, others might folow.
Then you have a group that feel the same.then you can work . Put it will be up to the people to decide. If you do not put it out their you want know.THE PEOPLE OWN THIS UNION. We can make it what we want. Good Luck.
sad

Quinton, VA

#11 Jul 21, 2012
Yes, we got another last and final offer last week. This will probably pass because no one wants to strike. RockTenn has only one thing on their mind making money. Anyway anyhow, employees are a dime a dozen. Anybody on the street can be trained in a couple weeks to do your job. People never new they had it so good until these negotiations. Rocktenn has destroyed everything the workers had gotten over the last 75 years. All in one contract negotiation. Good luck to the rest of you. Our union is finished
3rd world management

White Rock, Canada

#12 Jul 27, 2012
does anyone have a list of employee/union contact email addresses? we have a damning report on RockTenn that we would like to publish, contains only facts about the company's attitude towards the safety and welfare of its employees
Or any other suggestions on how to best get information to all employees of RockTenn?
Unionbreed

Abingdon, VA

#13 Jul 28, 2012
Post it on thr smurfit stone west point topix listing it'll get around
jonathan pedroza

United States

#14 Aug 16, 2012
just got back wrote:
I work at west point they are crapping all over us they got the union members fighting among themselves, they have played us like a fiddle. a lot of members has dropped out of the union. we have got no support from the U.S.W.
My name is Jonathan Pedroza I became a union rep at the plant and withing two months I got fired because I didn't show up to work on time. The reason I didn't show up on time is because my supervisor didn't tell me I had to work over time. So I got a no call no show. The u. S w. Has not done anything to help nothing I'm so depressed and I regret ever voting the union in.
style of management

White Rock, Canada

#15 Oct 5, 2012
A human rights complaint against RockTenn has been launched in British Columbia in defence of a whistleblower. He blew the whistle on them for safety infractions and was targeted as a result.
Another slave

Franklin, VT

#16 Feb 7, 2013
Not sure if this post is still being updated or watched, but we are going through negotiations right now.. I guess we are one of the few mills that still had what we call "premium pay" and that seems to be going out the window.. We nego on a 20k settlement to do away with our time 1/2 and double time as well as our triple time for holidays. All that gone with no cost of living adjustments or any other raise. All our employees are so nervous, we dont want to go out with that much of a pay cut so quick, they even stated that they would shut our doors for good! I don't know about anyone else but our area is being hit hard with any kind of good paying job, places keep shutting down. Our mill profited over 13 million last fiscal year.. So now they want to take 9k away from each employee (roughly). Someone did the math at work and came up with the company gaining $736,706.88 a year on top of what they will make. Time will tell, they gave us till the middle of the month to decide....hopefully the USW will do something...got kids to feed!
New Westminster_Cana da

Surrey, Canada

#17 Feb 7, 2013
They pulled the same stunt at our plant 3 years ago, and it worked. They took 5% or our wages and another 4% in upcoming annual increases. Threatened to shut us down too. The thing that sold us was a "promise" to restore the wage rates of the previous contract after it's expiry in 2 years. They found a loophole to avoid doing that. We've been without a contract since July 2011. They have "convinced" the workers that the promise made 3 years ago will not happen. Our main competition is going full out on our old similar "premium" wages that RockTenn feels it cannot afford. Management has the union in their pocket so there's nothing that we can do. They prey on fear, and it works.
Another slave wrote:
Not sure if this post is still being updated or watched, but we are going through negotiations right now.. I guess we are one of the few mills that still had what we call "premium pay" and that seems to be going out the window.. We nego on a 20k settlement to do away with our time 1/2 and double time as well as our triple time for holidays. All that gone with no cost of living adjustments or any other raise. All our employees are so nervous, we dont want to go out with that much of a pay cut so quick, they even stated that they would shut our doors for good! I don't know about anyone else but our area is being hit hard with any kind of good paying job, places keep shutting down. Our mill profited over 13 million last fiscal year.. So now they want to take 9k away from each employee (roughly). Someone did the math at work and came up with the company gaining $736,706.88 a year on top of what they will make. Time will tell, they gave us till the middle of the month to decide....hopefully the USW will do something...got kids to feed!
Another slave

Franklin, VT

#18 Feb 7, 2013
The cut in pay they want to do is not making the swing shift worth while. Swing shift is hard on the family not even to mention the body, then cut the pay makes it crazy. After all the deductions $550 can be made at another 9-5 job with the weekends off!!
Another slave

Franklin, VT

#19 Feb 7, 2013
You state that you have not been with a contract since 2011. What are they going off for a contract, did they implement their own? That is what a lot of our employees are afraid of, if we so no to this what are they going to offer next time. Will they give us a "temporary contract" that cuts our wages down to half? Got to love corporate greed!!
New Westminster_Cana da

Surrey, Canada

#20 Feb 13, 2013
I made a typo, we've actually been without a contract since July 2012. The old contract carries over until a new one is negotiated, er, co-ersed. Management latest demand is a wage freeze until July 2015! With the wage rollbacks and freezes over the last few years, add in the rate of inflation, and it's a 20% reduction. Add in the benefit package forced on us (where premiums went up and benefits went down) and it results in a 30% total cut, while in the past 3 years, Feb 12/10-Feb 12/13 the RockTenn stock price has more than doubled! Look it up. There is no end to the greed.

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