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Let's hold our noses, support gasoline tax -- Energy and Resour...

There are 27 comments on the The Morning Call story from Apr 1, 2008, titled Let's hold our noses, support gasoline tax -- Energy and Resour.... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Like vultures circling above carrion, politicians look for new sources of revenue, most recently to maintain Pennsylvania 's transportation infrastructure.

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You are nuts

Bethlehem, PA

#1 Apr 1, 2008
Yeah, sure advocate newer higher taxes. Are you insane? Do you not notice that the economy goes the way of fuel prices? Maybe you should do some grocery shopping sometime. Those prices go up in exponential bounds to adjust for shipping costs. Advocating for additional taxes will only ripple out into other areas such as sales tax. The problem with I-80 is related to it's geography and the yearly climatological issues that batter it. It's a main artery from the west to the northeast and as such requires more attention due to the increased traffic load. That's putting it in it's simplest form. Your argument that additional roads will need tolls is irrational, shipping is point to point shortest and direct distance.
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Korea

#2 Apr 1, 2008
Gasoline tax is a more efficient mechanism for collection than tolling roads. It results in collection based on inefficient fuel usage. Those who drive the most with the most inefficient vechiles (lowest mpg) end up paying the most.

The aggregate reduction in demand of miles driven results in less wear and tear on the road.

Professor Largay is correct, I too would rather pay extra at the pump rather than have a series of tollroads that can and often do happen that result in stoppages of flow of traffic, usage of my time sitting in ques, and buring gasoline uncessarily without getting anywhere.

Support Gasoline Tax over tolling or increase in tolling of our state highways and federal highways.
Later

United States

#3 Apr 1, 2008
I agree. I'm not sure what constraints, if any, exist with current gas tax revenues, but it would be good to see that any increased gas tax were directly solely toward road/bridge maintenance rather than being siphoned off for other uses.
comment wrote:
Gasoline tax is a more efficient mechanism for collection than tolling roads. It results in collection based on inefficient fuel usage. Those who drive the most with the most inefficient vechiles (lowest mpg) end up paying the most.
The aggregate reduction in demand of miles driven results in less wear and tear on the road.
Professor Largay is correct, I too would rather pay extra at the pump rather than have a series of tollroads that can and often do happen that result in stoppages of flow of traffic, usage of my time sitting in ques, and buring gasoline uncessarily without getting anywhere.
Support Gasoline Tax over tolling or increase in tolling of our state highways and federal highways.
Buck 298

Kernersville, NC

#4 Apr 1, 2008
We are over taxed to begin with. Let's start by having a shake up at PennDOT. It's high time that that Gov. agency be made to run much more efficently and stop wasting millions of dollars on projects like the exit ramps at the Hamburg exit on I-78.

PennDOT has been the "Joke" of the country as far a travelers go forever. It's time we demand that they operate as any other private business has to.
Just me

Stroudsburg, PA

#5 Apr 1, 2008
We need a good war.
Observer

Johnson City, TN

#6 Apr 1, 2008
The politicans found money in the budget for:

Philly convention center $700 million
Lancaster convention Center $100 million
Penguins stadium $300 million
Chester soccer stadium $50 million
Walking around money for legislators $350 million

$1.5 Billion

Yet they cannot find money for transportation.

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Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#8 Apr 1, 2008
We are already paying high gasoline taxes. The state just needs to use it for highway repair and not mass transit. If people want to take the bus,train,taxi or any other public convenience they should pay for it, not expect reduced or sometimes free transportation. I have to pay for mine.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#9 Apr 1, 2008
comment wrote:
Gasoline tax is a more efficient mechanism for collection than tolling roads. It results in collection based on inefficient fuel usage. Those who drive the most with the most inefficient vechiles (lowest mpg) end up paying the most.
The aggregate reduction in demand of miles driven results in less wear and tear on the road.
Professor Largay is correct, I too would rather pay extra at the pump rather than have a series of tollroads that can and often do happen that result in stoppages of flow of traffic, usage of my time sitting in ques, and buring gasoline uncessarily without getting anywhere.
Support Gasoline Tax over tolling or increase in tolling of our state highways and federal highways.
The reason it's more efficient is because the state forces the retailers to collect the tax for them, making them unpaid state tax agents. Free labor is always cheaper than paid labor.
jmo

United States

#10 Apr 1, 2008
Yes, that's the answer. Raise the gasoline tax to line their pockets. Do you actually think that would solve the problem?
Fact Is

Allentown, PA

#11 Apr 1, 2008
So if I rarely (if ever) use these highways I should pay for someone elses ride?
Satire

Allentown, PA

#12 Apr 1, 2008
Has anyone thought of charging pedestrians a toll? This way we can get the sidewalks repaired too!
Oh My

Mount Carmel, PA

#13 Apr 1, 2008
Oh sure raise the taxes some more so they can for sure approve another midnight raise for themselves... Hey Jacka22!!!! why don't they just raise taxes and make gas an even $10 bucks a gallon so we can all be living in the streets .. WHAT A JERK!!!!!
The Lib Terminator

Albrightsville, PA

#14 Apr 1, 2008
James,

You sound like a sucker for punishment. This tax will not help infrastructure. What it will do is increase the price of gas already too high.

A better way is for the government of Fast Eddy is to prioritize all that money they do have. Fast Eddy always complains there aint enough money. But the problem is he spends like a drunken sailor.

On second thought that gives the drunken sailor more blame than where it really belongs. On Fasty Eddy who always is asking for more.

He never makes a speech without dipping his hand into our pockets.

The fact is they have more money they can handle. What they should do is give a little less in political handouts and there will be plenty to fix our infrastructure.

Take that to the bank. That is if Fast Eddy hasn't already withdrawn it.
Bleed Black and Orange

Silver Spring, MD

#15 Apr 1, 2008
How about we reform welfare to what it was originally intented to do; give a hand up; not a hand out? Use the savings to pay for the roads.
jmo

United States

#16 Apr 1, 2008
The Lib Terminator wrote:
James,
You sound like a sucker for punishment. This tax will not help infrastructure. What it will do is increase the price of gas already too high.
A better way is for the government of Fast Eddy is to prioritize all that money they do have. Fast Eddy always complains there aint enough money. But the problem is he spends like a drunken sailor.
On second thought that gives the drunken sailor more blame than where it really belongs. On Fasty Eddy who always is asking for more.
He never makes a speech without dipping his hand into our pockets.
The fact is they have more money they can handle. What they should do is give a little less in political handouts and there will be plenty to fix our infrastructure.
Take that to the bank. That is if Fast Eddy hasn't already withdrawn it.
Well well we finally agree on something. A little wordy, but I must agree with you buddy. Good job.
I agree

Allentown, PA

#17 Apr 1, 2008
Raise the tax high enough and it will reducing the amount of traffic, reducing maintenance and need for new roads.
IAMAL

Northumberland, PA

#18 Apr 1, 2008
I agree wrote:
Raise the tax high enough and it will reducing the amount of traffic, reducing maintenance and need for new roads.
Your brilliance qualifies you for mayor of Phila
taxed to the limit

East Stroudsburg, PA

#19 Apr 1, 2008
I would rather they do away with all tolls and just make a transportation tax. They will tax us one way or the other. Every year they do a budget for work needing to be done. Every year that number gets divided by everyone who is not retired. We all pay the same. One way or the other we all need the roads. We are either driving on them or what we buy is being driven to us on them. Ok so you question how do we collect for people who don't live here? Why are they driving through or to our state. They will spend money in other areas which will support our economy. Just a thought. I will say I don't like to be taxed just like the next doesn't. But having toll booths or the cost of easy pass. How much does it really cost us?
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#20 Apr 2, 2008
taxed to the limit wrote:
I would rather they do away with all tolls and just make a transportation tax. They will tax us one way or the other. Every year they do a budget for work needing to be done. Every year that number gets divided by everyone who is not retired. We all pay the same. One way or the other we all need the roads. We are either driving on them or what we buy is being driven to us on them. Ok so you question how do we collect for people who don't live here? Why are they driving through or to our state. They will spend money in other areas which will support our economy. Just a thought. I will say I don't like to be taxed just like the next doesn't. But having toll booths or the cost of easy pass. How much does it really cost us?
Here's the problem, Take I80 for example. This route is the main trucking route that services New York City from the western states. With 250 gal. fuel capacity,or more,a truck can drive about 1500 to 2000 miles between fill ups. Now these truckers naturally buy their fuel from the cheapest state (lowest tax state) on their route. Thats not Pennsylvania, but they do use our highway and it costs the state a lot of money for repairs. That's why a toll on I80 makes sense.
The people along I80 complain that they will also have to pay the toll to use the route, but the people who have to use the Turnpike system in the state are paying tolls also.
Try driving anywhere in New Jersey without paying some kind of a toll or another.
Highways are expensive, weather you're retired or not that has nothing to do with it,we all have to pay our own way.
taxed to the limit

East Stroudsburg, PA

#21 Apr 4, 2008
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>Here's the problem, Take I80 for example. This route is the main trucking route that services New York City from the western states. With 250 gal. fuel capacity,or more,a truck can drive about 1500 to 2000 miles between fill ups. Now these truckers naturally buy their fuel from the cheapest state (lowest tax state) on their route. Thats not Pennsylvania, but they do use our highway and it costs the state a lot of money for repairs. That's why a toll on I80 makes sense.
The people along I80 complain that they will also have to pay the toll to use the route, but the people who have to use the Turnpike system in the state are paying tolls also.
Try driving anywhere in New Jersey without paying some kind of a toll or another.
Highways are expensive, weather you're retired or not that has nothing to do with it,we all have to pay our own way.
We don't live in NJ. Maybe if we don't add even more cost to move our goods across the country the cost of those goods goes down. Again everyone needs the roads. Everyone shares equally in the cost. Much like yearly taxes. Everyone shares so why should some pay less then others?

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