Tea partiers protest taxes across nation

Tea partiers protest taxes across nation

There are 41 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Apr 16, 2010, titled Tea partiers protest taxes across nation. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

Tea party protesters marked tax day Thursday with exhortations against "gangster government" and appeals from Republicans seeking their grass-roots clout in November elections, a prospect both tempting and troubling to those in the loose movement.

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Reefer Man

Salinas, CA

#1 Apr 16, 2010
As Thomas Jefferson once said: the Tree of Liberty from time to time bears a Spectacular crop of Nuts.
Aromas Proud

United States

#2 Apr 16, 2010
The sad thing about trying to join in on Tea Party activities is that most of us that would, actually work for a living, not like many of the other rallies and such where as these people are either on welfare or somehow milking the system and seem to have plenty of time on their hands. This is something the media never tells anyone.
If I was collecting welfare, food stamps, unemployment, disability, and section 8 housing I would have plenty of time on my hands to support my "way of life" in outside activities. Unlike the poor working tax payer schmuck who has to be at work to keep his/her job. There are a lot more of us Tea Partiers than these clowns think. It's just figuring out a way to organize us better and when we do a lot of these leaches are going to be in for a big surprize.
Harley Creel

United States

#3 Apr 16, 2010
Empires are expensive and corrupt.
Freedom

Salinas, CA

#4 Apr 16, 2010
thank you participants for representing the sleeping majority all of which will show up in the elections results in Nov and beyond..and if some think this is about far right issues like gays and abortion..I do not think so..most of us are moderates but fiscally conservative. of course, there are always those extremists like anti-gay signs or some other far right nut case..but as myself...we are nearly all moderate but fiscally conservative.

also, we have to find more sensible candidates than the one running against sam farr..this guy only talked about abortion or blasting gays..get real guy and concentrate on spending or you will lose
Bob Loblaw

United States

#5 Apr 16, 2010
Reefer Man wrote:
As Thomas Jefferson once said: the Tree of Liberty from time to time bears a Spectacular crop of Nuts.
Step away from the bong.
Reefer Man

Salinas, CA

#6 Apr 16, 2010
Bob Loblaw wrote:
<quoted text>
Step away from the bong.
Smaller government = legalization of marijuana.

Tea Party agrees: Washington's failed "War on Drugs" must end.
JonnyBoy

United States

#7 Apr 16, 2010
Aromas Proud wrote:
The sad thing about trying to join in on Tea Party activities is that most of us that would, actually work for a living, not like many of the other rallies and such where as these people are either on welfare or somehow milking the system and seem to have plenty of time on their hands. This is something the media never tells anyone.
If I was collecting welfare, food stamps, unemployment, disability, and section 8 housing I would have plenty of time on my hands to support my "way of life" in outside activities. Unlike the poor working tax payer schmuck who has to be at work to keep his/her job. There are a lot more of us Tea Partiers than these clowns think. It's just figuring out a way to organize us better and when we do a lot of these leaches are going to be in for a big surprize.
Instead of spouting the usual Faux noise rant, perhaps educate yourself?

According to the CATO Institute, in 1999, the US provided CORPORATIONS more than 40% more "welfare" than any of those items you listed!

Perhaps you can recognize that Exxon, the most profitable corporation in the US last year($35 billion profit) paid ZERO federal taxes?

That the top 1% has grown their share of the pie from 8% in 1980 to 23% in 2007(according to the Tax Foundation)? What did they do in those 27 years to "earn" that tripling of their SHARE of the US economy? Were they more educated? Work more hours? Put more of their capital at risk? No!!!

As long as the bottom 95% continue to not recognize the game is rigged for the 1% at the top, and DEMAND that they pay their fair share(no they are not, tripling their income while their taxes went up 20%?) where will we be?

Ronnie Reagan and his "trickle down" only got 95% of America's legs wet!!!
JonnyBoy

United States

#8 Apr 16, 2010
Harley Creel wrote:
Empires are expensive and corrupt.
How Un-AmeriKan of you :):):)

Ronnie Reagan:

"Facts are stupid things"
JonnyBoy

United States

#9 Apr 16, 2010
15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-abou...
Bill

Salinas, CA

#12 Apr 16, 2010
If the Tea party is so proud to be an American and God Bless them for that. Then why don't they stand at the corner of Sanborn and Alisal street and wave the American flag and take our country back. Reason is because they are also part of the problem they are proud Americans but cowards. I wonder why they don't protest on the east side of Salinas.
James R

Salinas, CA

#13 Apr 16, 2010
Johnny Boy quote "perhaps educate yourself"

Q: Why did Fed revenues increase dramatically with the Reagan Tax Cuts?
A: Human Behavior - People are more inclined to pay a tax they deem as fair....the pie grows.

Facts: When government grows, so does the need to fund it. 47% of Americans don't pay federal taxes. There aren't enough tax payers to support this European style economy.

Fact:$12,836,462,892.426.00 Nation Debt as of April 15th, 2010 and growing. As soon as USA looses its Bond Rating.....guess what.....inflation big time.

Hold our elected officials accountable for their fiscal irresponsible in November.

The blame for bad judgment and flawed economic policies during this recession belongs squarely on their shoulders.

They said they could fix it.

All they did was make is exponentially worse...and they aren't done spending and borrowing and taxing yet.

Heck with the corporations, a fire is smoldering in our basements.
Jorge

Marina, CA

#14 Apr 16, 2010
James R wrote:
47% of Americans don't pay federal taxes.
Debunked:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/business/ec...
StinkinThinkin

Salinas, CA

#15 Apr 16, 2010
Bill wrote:
If the Tea party is so proud to be an American and God Bless them for that. Then why don't they stand at the corner of Sanborn and Alisal street and wave the American flag and take our country back. Reason is because they are also part of the problem they are proud Americans but cowards. I wonder why they don't protest on the east side of Salinas.
Busiest intersection in Salinas. High visibility. Good spot.
JonnyBoy

United States

#16 Apr 16, 2010
James R wrote:
Johnny Boy quote "perhaps educate yourself"
Q: Why did Fed revenues increase dramatically with the Reagan Tax Cuts?
A: Human Behavior - People are more inclined to pay a tax they deem as fair....the pie grows.
Facts: When government grows, so does the need to fund it. 47% of Americans don't pay federal taxes. There aren't enough tax payers to support this European style economy.
Fact:$12,836,462,892.426.00 Nation Debt as of April 15th, 2010 and growing. As soon as USA looses its Bond Rating.....guess what.....inflation big time.
Hold our elected officials accountable for their fiscal irresponsible in November.
The blame for bad judgment and flawed economic policies during this recession belongs squarely on their shoulders.
They said they could fix it.
All they did was make is exponentially worse...and they aren't done spending and borrowing and taxing yet.
Heck with the corporations, a fire is smoldering in our basements.
Is that all you have? Some lame comment about federal revenues "dramatically" increasing? Based on? How about REAL facts? Ronnie DOUBLED Social Security which is why, according to the OMB says in REAL constant, inflation adjusted money it grew from $1.07 Trillion to $1.236 Trillion IN EIGHT YEARS!

http://mediamatters.org/research/200511220007

I know I bet you're a "libertarian" who really believes the pie always grows and a "fair" tax people will pay is lower than today? Why is it the richest 400 families paid 17% taxes on a minimum $300,000,000 income? Why do the top 1% who made a min of $410,000 pay 22%? Is that "fair? As Warren Buffet said, "there is a war between the classes, and mine started it and we're winning"

More reading. Ask if you want links to ANYTHING I might post!

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/r...

While few modern economists claim that tax cuts will completely pay for themselves... Reagan's income tax cuts in the 1980s did not increase receipts

Allan Greenspan:
"very few economists believe that you can cut taxes and you will get the same amount of revenues"

A good article with CONSERVATIVE ECONOMISTS saying tax cuts don't pay for themselves

http://logicizer.blogtownhall.com/default.asp...
JonnyBoy

United States

#17 Apr 16, 2010
Jorge wrote:
Good link here are more

10 Inconvenient Truths for Tax Day

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/10-inconve...
James R

Salinas, CA

#18 Apr 16, 2010
Jorge wrote:
SAME NEW YORK SLIMES ARTICLE

"The 47 percent number is not wrong. The stimulus programs of the last two years the first one signed by President George W. Bush, the second and larger one by President Obama have increased the number of households that receive enough of a tax credit to wipe out their federal income tax liability."
James R

Salinas, CA

#19 Apr 16, 2010
JonnyBoy wrote:
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Is that all you have? Some lame comment about federal revenues "dramatically" increasing?
Sometimes the truth is simple.

Focusing on today's economic worries.....my freedom, and my families debt burden from government growth and overspending....could care less who did it at this point.
JonnyBoy

United States

#20 Apr 16, 2010
Here is a lengthy but informative article on taxes by Thom Hartmann.

The Great Tax Con Job

Republicans are using the T-word - taxes - to attack the Obama healthcare program. It's a strategy based in a lie.

A very small niche of America's uber-wealthy have pulled off what may well be the biggest con job in the history of our republic, and they did it in a startlingly brief 30 or so years. True, they spent over three billion dollars to make it happen, but the reward to them was in the hundreds of billions - and will continue to be.

As my friend and colleague Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks pointed out in a Daily Kos blog recently, billionaire Rupert Murdoch loses $50 million a year on the NY Post, billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife loses $2 to $3 million a year on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, billionaire Philip Anschutz loses around $5 million a year on The Weekly Standard, and billionaire Sun Myung Moon has lost $2 to $3 billion on The Washington Times. More:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/21
JonnyBoy

United States

#21 Apr 16, 2010
James R wrote:
<quoted text>
SAME NEW YORK SLIMES ARTICLE
"The 47 percent number is not wrong. The stimulus programs of the last two years the first one signed by President George W. Bush, the second and larger one by President Obama have increased the number of households that receive enough of a tax credit to wipe out their federal income tax liability."
Well first you said "taxes" now it's "income" taxes? I guess for simple minded person who might believe Beck, Limbaugh or Hanitty that might explain it but considering in 2008 that the Social Security AND Income taxes received to the federal government was equal, and since the they together equaled 80% of federal revenues, why only count "income" taxes? Isn't THAT dishonest? How about the $4 trillion owed to the SS,MediCare and other trust funds? Since that money has been used to fund the government that doesn't count?

Of course I am POSITIVE you are a CONServative who doesn't let facts get in the way of your "feelings" right? Kinda like all the Cons who said Bush Sr tax cuts would doom are economy? Then the same ones who said Clintons would also? Probably even believe Iraq was a "necessary" war, lol
JonnyBoy

United States

#22 Apr 16, 2010
James R wrote:
<quoted text>
Sometimes the truth is simple.
Focusing on today's economic worries.....my freedom, and my families debt burden from government growth and overspending....could care less who did it at this point.
So since YOU said federal revenue "dramatically" increased under Ronnie and I showed you that they BARELY increased and ONLY after Ronnie doubled the Social Security(which caps the tax so the rich don't fully pay it!)taxes, how is that "simple truth" working?

I agree the spending is crazy, did you protest the wars? How about the tax cuts to the rich?

Since 85% of ALL of Ronnie and Dubya's tax cuts went to the top 5% AND the top 1% tripled their share of income(thus pushing their share of taxes on the middle class) are you outraged at that?

Freedom, Tyranny and taxes right? lol

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