Progress Energy to close NC coal-fired power units

There are 13 comments on the www.forbes.com story from Aug 18, 2009, titled Progress Energy to close NC coal-fired power units. In it, www.forbes.com reports that:

Progress Energy Inc. said Tuesday it plans to close three coal-fired power units and replace them with a natural gas-fueled plant at the site near Goldsboro, N.C. The company said the new plant would increase electricity-generating capacity while cutting emissions including carbon dioxide.

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Just Do It

Pulaski, TN

#1 Aug 18, 2009
Natural gas burns clean.

If I didn't you could not use it and breath the fumes it 6 months out of the year to stay warm.

Natural gas should be at the bottom of the list as a threat to the atmosphere.

Just about anywhere in Tennessee you can drill and hit natural gas. You can even smell it coming out of the ground.

Image a power facility sitting on top of a natural gas supply, they have the gas, they pump that into an internal combustion engine that will take natural gas, that engine hooked to a tight transmission that is hooked to a dynamo.

10's of thousands of RPM's.

Free, clean electricity, electricity that would in turn run the natural gas pumps that supply the engine.

Even coal fired steam driven dynamos can be retrofitted to be driven by a natural gas engine that burns clean.

Free natural gas instead of paying for coal thus chopping off millions in overhead and reducing electric rates to customers.

No more coal ash dumps.

No more pollution.

One could even do this on their own property for electrical supply to their home.

Breathable emissions.

Everybody wins, the atmosphere, the power producers, the customers, everyone.

Natural gas is NOT a known polluter. If It were you could not use it to heat your home.

Pressure only needs to be put on these companies to switch from coal to natural gas.
Just Do It

Pulaski, TN

#2 Aug 18, 2009
Plus if you really want to expose the truth and the power companies, investigate them and the resources that they have at their disposal to see if they are one of those companies that willing choose a source of electricity that pollutes while the cleaner resources that they have at their disposal to produce electricity sit idle, unused.
CHECK SIX

North Port, FL

#3 Aug 18, 2009
How much will it cost???....What will be the increase??....is this the beginning off a slew of new taxes on people who are hurting now?
what will be the monthly increase??...will the Green concept of this thing be my green cash leaving me....tell us..the real costs to the average family..who may not be working now,or are about to walk away from underwater homes..Tell us!!

What about clean coal?? the US has more coal than the Arabs have oil....even Carter was a proponent of coal....unless these thing are affordable to the average family,and not the egghead types,or the rich,it will be a burden on the Poor.

Best you peddle this to the Chinks,and the Indians...They are the grand polluters..are they not??...maby you can put a catalytic converters on cows butts too...hey that will help also.

Any Who, interesting!

ITS THE JOBS STUPID!!

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Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#4 Aug 18, 2009
Just Do It wrote:
Natural gas burns clean.
If I didn't you could not use it and breath the fumes it 6 months out of the year to stay warm.
Natural gas should be at the bottom of the list as a threat to the atmosphere.
Just about anywhere in Tennessee you can drill and hit natural gas. You can even smell it coming out of the ground.
Image a power facility sitting on top of a natural gas supply, they have the gas, they pump that into an internal combustion engine that will take natural gas, that engine hooked to a tight transmission that is hooked to a dynamo.
10's of thousands of RPM's.
Free, clean electricity, electricity that would in turn run the natural gas pumps that supply the engine.
Even coal fired steam driven dynamos can be retrofitted to be driven by a natural gas engine that burns clean.
Free natural gas instead of paying for coal thus chopping off millions in overhead and reducing electric rates to customers.
No more coal ash dumps.
No more pollution.
One could even do this on their own property for electrical supply to their home.
Breathable emissions.
Everybody wins, the atmosphere, the power producers, the customers, everyone.
Natural gas is NOT a known polluter. If It were you could not use it to heat your home.
Pressure only needs to be put on these companies to switch from coal to natural gas.
True.

There are three main issues today about energy / power / fuel.

1) Pollution: Coal is inherantly dirty, but can be burned cleanly with very expensive smoke-stack technology which no one has purchased. Natural Gas is very cleanburning, and abundant.

2) Balance of trade: Natural gas is onshore, and requires no transfer of wealth overseas.

3) Global warming: all fuels put carbon and heat into the atmosphere. Eventually, we will have to invest in renewable power; but for the short-haul, Natural gas is our best bet.(Nuclear plants just transfer the huge expense of dealing with the radio-active debris to the next generation) and are inherently foolish, selfish, and in an age of terrorism, insane.

How is your fly-ash situation? I hear they are trying to dump it off somewhere. Probably on poor people.
Yeppers

Kissimmee, FL

#5 Aug 18, 2009
CHECK SIX wrote:
How much will it cost???....What will be the increase??....is this the beginning off a slew of new taxes on people who are hurting now?
what will be the monthly increase??...will the Green concept of this thing be my green cash leaving me....tell us..the real costs to the average family..who may not be working now,or are about to walk away from underwater homes..Tell us!!
What about clean coal?? the US has more coal than the Arabs have oil....even Carter was a proponent of coal....unless these thing are affordable to the average family,and not the egghead types,or the rich,it will be a burden on the Poor.
Best you peddle this to the Chinks,and the Indians...They are the grand polluters..are they not??...maby you can put a catalytic converters on cows butts too...hey that will help also.
Any Who, interesting!
ITS THE JOBS STUPID!!
Well, the article says it will cost 900 million to build, no doubt that is some heavy change...The cost of electricity just went up for people in NC...
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#6 Aug 18, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
True.
There are three main issues today about energy / power / fuel.
1) Pollution: Coal is inherantly dirty, but can be burned cleanly with very expensive smoke-stack technology which no one has purchased. Natural Gas is very cleanburning, and abundant.
2) Balance of trade: Natural gas is onshore, and requires no transfer of wealth overseas.
3) Global warming: all fuels put carbon and heat into the atmosphere. Eventually, we will have to invest in renewable power; but for the short-haul, Natural gas is our best bet.(Nuclear plants just transfer the huge expense of dealing with the radio-active debris to the next generation) and are inherently foolish, selfish, and in an age of terrorism, insane.
How is your fly-ash situation? I hear they are trying to dump it off somewhere. Probably on poor people.
very interesting discussion, between the two of you. the trouble-makers should go check out Yucca Mountain, and make sure there are no leaks, and no earthquake faults. maybe camp there for a few years - like the half-life of plutonium - to be sure there are no leaks or quakes
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#7 Aug 18, 2009
Yeppers wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the article says it will cost 900 million to build, no doubt that is some heavy change...The cost of electricity just went up for people in NC...
now the other couple have found each other and don't have to be alone in the mountain - maybe we should have them check out some old coal mines, also - come out and report on safety conditions for miners, potential fires, cave-ins, flooding, etc.
progressive

Lamoni, IA

#8 Aug 18, 2009
But there does hve to be pressure on India and Pakistan and China to cooperate - and Iran - in not emphasizing coal or nuclear - Israel too. If Israel wanted to make friends, they'd invent fantastic solar technology, and expeort it all over, at reasonable price, and subsidize the poorer places which can't afford much
Warning Labels

Pulaski, TN

#9 Aug 18, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
How is your fly-ash situation? I hear they are trying to dump it off somewhere.
It's an unholy mess, check it out:

Toxic Ash Pond Collapses in Tennessee

"The residue of millions of tons of coal burning at Kingston Fossil power plant in the Watts Bar Reservoir in Tennessee burst the bounds of the pond in which it was contained, burying as many as 400 acres of land in up to six feet of sludge."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
koz

Shippingport, PA

#10 Aug 19, 2009
Mr_Bill wrote:
Nuclear plants just transfer the huge expense of dealing with the radio-active debris to the next generation
Wrong. All costs are being paid now by those of us who use nuclear-generated electricity.
Carmen

Trinity, NC

#11 Sep 28, 2009
How much coal does north carolina burn?
cause

Cary, NC

#12 Sep 29, 2009
Nuclear should be the direction we consider for the future.
cause

Cary, NC

#13 Sep 29, 2009
Nuclear power is what we should be focused on in the future.

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