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Progress Energy may build reactors near Raleigh | NEWS | Ashevi...

There are 30 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Feb 19, 2008, titled Progress Energy may build reactors near Raleigh | NEWS | Ashevi.... In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Progress Energy said this morning it would file an application later today for two possible new nuclear reactors at its existing Harris Nuclear Plant site about 20 miles southwest of Raleigh in western Wake ...

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eddie

Marion, NC

#1 Feb 19, 2008
Please provide us with electrical power!!!

We have so many people moving here and we are spending TEN'S of Millions of dollars to advertise for people to move here. If the Asheville City Gov't, Chamber of Commerce, Tourism Development Tax, Biltmore House and Development Companies, Cliffs Communities on and on are spending for people to come here.

This will create more and more competion for Electrical Power please don't wait until we have rolling blackouts to do something.
you are an idiot

United States

#2 Feb 19, 2008
Progress will have an easier time playing pick-up-sticks with their butt cheeks, than get this thing in operation. NO WAY will this ever fly. The answer to our energy needs is conservation, not increased output. The reason why you don't hear Progress tout conservation as the answer is because there is no profit for them in it. If you believe increased production is the answer, you have taken the bait, hook, line, and sinker.
half-back

Greenville, NC

#3 Feb 19, 2008
This will fly. And more nuclear plants will follow. They are submitting for COL, which gets them on the list with the DOE. Once this is done they will begin the design process and build the plants by 2018. They will not need the peoples' support for this. It is Progress Energies decision to move ahead with nuclear power reactors and it is the future of power generation.
realist

Dillon, SC

#4 Feb 19, 2008
conservation will not keep pace with growth. Like it or not, this is reality.
Try fishing somewhere else.
average bear

Ward, AL

#5 Feb 19, 2008
With the mayor of Raleigh wanting to limit people to 25 gallons of water per day (which would cover pretty much all of Wake County since the outlying small towns are on the City of Raleigh water system), where in the world do they expect to get the water to cool the reactors? There has already been talk about the possible need to take some of the existing reactors in the state off-line because of the drought. Investing in more at this point doesn't make good sense.
Old68

Nashville, TN

#6 Feb 19, 2008
you are an idiot wrote:
Progress will have an easier time playing pick-up-sticks with their butt cheeks, than get this thing in operation. NO WAY will this ever fly. The answer to our energy needs is conservation, not increased output. The reason why you don't hear Progress tout conservation as the answer is because there is no profit for them in it. If you believe increased production is the answer, you have taken the bait, hook, line, and sinker.
All of us sensible, realistic, and responsible people need to let our voices be heard. The views of the above letter writer is so far out of tune with reality and common sense that it is laughable. You can only "conserve" so much. The US electric companies, and responsible citizens, have let the very minor group of people of the above ilk push us around long enough. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! The US lags the rest of the free world in the generation of electricity generatored by nuclear energy. The global warming crowd should be nuclear power generation's greatest advocates.
Nick

Eddyville, KY

#7 Feb 19, 2008
Between now and then, there should be no need to have rolling blackouts. All Progress and others need to do is install remote control switches on the properties of those opposed to the new plants and turn just their power off when the need arises.
half-back

Greenville, NC

#8 Feb 19, 2008
average bear wrote:
With the mayor of Raleigh wanting to limit people to 25 gallons of water per day (which would cover pretty much all of Wake County since the outlying small towns are on the City of Raleigh water system), where in the world do they expect to get the water to cool the reactors? There has already been talk about the possible need to take some of the existing reactors in the state off-line because of the drought. Investing in more at this point doesn't make good sense.
Good point. They have discussed digging large retainer ponds for inland reactors such as these. Apparently they have found a solution for this if they are going for Combined Operating License COL.
Keep in mind that the newer designs do not require the huge amounts of cooling water as needed in the old style reactors.
bat cave girl

United States

#9 Feb 19, 2008
one nuclear reactor needs 21000 gallons of water every hour to cool the reactor. thats right twenty one thousand gallons!!! and last week the federal government decided that people living near a plant dont need the iodine pills to save their lives in the event of an accident. Why? Because it might create bad public relations for the plant. After all what are a few thousand lives compared to bad publicity for a plant? Always follow the money. If all these people are happy living near a nuclear power plant then by all means move you and your family near one. Ihere that land near Chernobyl is for sale cheap. In California they built the plant Diablo Mountain in the early eighties, which has never opened yet one quarter of all electric bills go toward paying for it. Yet no one gets electricy from it. And for all you people who think that conservation is the answer, you are living in a fool's paridise because these people in this area can even conserve water in a drought. They don't care at all. Good Luck
Buford T Justice

Landrum, SC

#10 Feb 19, 2008
I wish a nuclear plant would be built next to I-26 at the state line so all the Floridians will see it and MAYBE turn around.
you are an idiot

United States

#11 Feb 19, 2008
half-back wrote:
This will fly. And more nuclear plants will follow. They are submitting for COL, which gets them on the list with the DOE. Once this is done they will begin the design process and build the plants by 2018. They will not need the peoples' support for this. It is Progress Energies decision to move ahead with nuclear power reactors and it is the future of power generation.
You are assuming GOP control of our government in the near future. Sorry, buddy, that is not going to happen, and neither is this plant you and your greedy friends at the power company have dreamed up.
you are an idiot

United States

#12 Feb 19, 2008
bat cave girl wrote:
one nuclear reactor needs 21000 gallons of water every hour to cool the reactor. thats right twenty one thousand gallons!!! and last week the federal government decided that people living near a plant dont need the iodine pills to save their lives in the event of an accident. Why? Because it might create bad public relations for the plant. After all what are a few thousand lives compared to bad publicity for a plant? Always follow the money. If all these people are happy living near a nuclear power plant then by all means move you and your family near one. Ihere that land near Chernobyl is for sale cheap. In California they built the plant Diablo Mountain in the early eighties, which has never opened yet one quarter of all electric bills go toward paying for it. Yet no one gets electricy from it. And for all you people who think that conservation is the answer, you are living in a fool's paridise because these people in this area can even conserve water in a drought. They don't care at all. Good Luck
I am not talking about conservation on a personal level, although that is nice. You are right, people in the USA are hogs, pigs, gluttons, they will not stop feeding from the trough until they are dead from it. What I am talking about is conservation from the manufacture's side. All new appliances should meet minimum energy consumption standards to be eligible for sale. The fat retarded rednecks won't even know they are saving energy. The technology is there, it is just being ignored because it will cost the power companies money in the long run. Face the facts, the energy lobbies are some of the strongest on the planet. They make the rules that we follow. It should be the other way around.

Since: May 07

Candler, NC

#13 Feb 19, 2008
Buford T Justice wrote:
I wish a nuclear plant would be built next to I-26 at the state line so all the Floridians will see it and MAYBE turn around.
Okay, but what's gonna stop the Yankees from coming down? I'll take Floridiots any day.

Since: Aug 07

Asheville, NC

#14 Feb 19, 2008
Time to switch to nuclear; clean, safe, recyclable, efficient, with the power of the sun itself.
half-back

Greenville, NC

#16 Feb 19, 2008
you are an idiot wrote:
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You are assuming GOP control of our government in the near future. Sorry, buddy, that is not going to happen, and neither is this plant you and your greedy friends at the power company have dreamed up.
Excuse YOU! Progress energy put in for the COL to the NRC. You can't stop that. The GOP can't stop that. The next President can't stop that. The plants will be built. Next year they will put up 100 million dollars for EACH reactor vessel to be constructed. You know very little about this business and you mis-judge me when you say that I have greedy friends at the power company.....no such luck there. There is no assumption on my part, I state facts. And Progress Energy aint the only power company to put in for licenses this year.....at least 8 more are slated to in the next 6 months and last year 8 went in for licensing....and that is just here in the US.
half-back

Greenville, NC

#17 Feb 19, 2008
bat cave girl wrote:
one nuclear reactor needs 21000 gallons of water every hour to cool the reactor. thats right twenty one thousand gallons!!! and last week the federal government decided that people living near a plant dont need the iodine pills to save their lives in the event of an accident. Why? Because it might create bad public relations for the plant. After all what are a few thousand lives compared to bad publicity for a plant? Always follow the money. If all these people are happy living near a nuclear power plant then by all means move you and your family near one. Ihere that land near Chernobyl is for sale cheap. In California they built the plant Diablo Mountain in the early eighties, which has never opened yet one quarter of all electric bills go toward paying for it. Yet no one gets electricy from it. And for all you people who think that conservation is the answer, you are living in a fool's paridise because these people in this area can even conserve water in a drought. They don't care at all. Good Luck
It is not just "cooling" the reactor that the water is used for. The water is heated and becomes steam and under pressure, steam is piped to the turbine where the steam turns the turbine which creates electricity. The steam is then condensed and returns to the reactor to repeat the process. Older reactors use more water to keep the reactor functioning properly. New reactors use alot less water. The most advanced new reator uses even less water. It is a process variable as to how much "fresh" water is mixed with the returning condensed steam water to keep the reactor at a set temperature. Using 21K gallons per hour is NOT a real figure for the newer units that are going for licesing today.
As far as the radiation levels near the plants:
The older plants are monitored for radiation contamination every second of every day. There are no significant risks of radiation exposure if a person lives near a plant. Period. That is hogwash. The only contamination risk involved is the transport and storage of the radio-active waste. The newer plants will be almost fully automated and will have skeleton crews manning them, which will yield alot less radio-active waste.
you are an idiot

United States

#18 Feb 19, 2008
half-back wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not just "cooling" the reactor that the water is used for. The water is heated and becomes steam and under pressure, steam is piped to the turbine where the steam turns the turbine which creates electricity. The steam is then condensed and returns to the reactor to repeat the process. Older reactors use more water to keep the reactor functioning properly. New reactors use alot less water. The most advanced new reator uses even less water. It is a process variable as to how much "fresh" water is mixed with the returning condensed steam water to keep the reactor at a set temperature. Using 21K gallons per hour is NOT a real figure for the newer units that are going for licesing today.
As far as the radiation levels near the plants:
The older plants are monitored for radiation contamination every second of every day. There are no significant risks of radiation exposure if a person lives near a plant. Period. That is hogwash. The only contamination risk involved is the transport and storage of the radio-active waste. The newer plants will be almost fully automated and will have skeleton crews manning them, which will yield alot less radio-active waste.
Oh good a skeleton crew. That should be great for security. This is after all a post 9-11 world, and this plant is already in trouble for security breaches. Look for yourself:
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content...

This will never fly.
half-back

Greenville, NC

#19 Feb 19, 2008
you are an idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh good a skeleton crew. That should be great for security. This is after all a post 9-11 world, and this plant is already in trouble for security breaches. Look for yourself:
http://www.indyweek.com/gyrobase/Content...
This will never fly.
It has already flown. There are 4 new plants under construction in the US this year. These new plants are criticized beyond belief by the NRC and the companies that are buying them during the design stages. Before they are built they have been scrutinized and gone over with a fine toothed comb. All new plants are required to go thru real-time testing and simulation programs. Security is 100 times what it was in 20 years ago. If you want to know more, check out the NRC for the next public meetings regarding these new plants. If you attend one of these meetings you might learn something. The nuclear renaissance is here, and it is booming both here and world-wide.
you are an idiot

United States

#20 Feb 19, 2008
One word, Chernobyl. The US can not let something like that happen here. The only way to guarantee safety, is to ban nuclear plants. That is a fact. No matter how you or your public relations firm spin it, you can not guarantee the safety of our citizens when it comes to nuclear power. Shame on you for trying to fool us.
you are an idiot

United States

#21 Feb 19, 2008
And by the way, if nuclear power is all that you claim, why aren't there hundreds of plants already? Nuclear power's time has already come and gone. We have tried this option in the past, and it has been proven to be too risky. How many people have died from conservation and renewables? How many have already died from nuclear? History shows nuclear power kills. We can not allow history to repeat itself.

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