PPL energy conservation plan sparks d...

PPL energy conservation plan sparks debate

There are 15 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jul 29, 2009, titled PPL energy conservation plan sparks debate. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Debate is heating up regarding a PPL proposal to charge customers $246 million over four years to implement energy conservation programs mandated by the state.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Morning Call.

goon

Bethlehem, PA

#1 Jul 29, 2009
If we had super low energy use homes and decentralized solar power for individual homes we wouldn't have much need for PPL.

Unfortunately in the States its 'business as usual". This means McMansion sized energy hog homes, power guzzler lifestyles, little interest in changing to alternative energy.

But really, charging customers to conserve ?
John Birch

United States

#2 Jul 29, 2009
another example of "government" trying to look as though they are doing something when they don't have a clue how to go about it. Hence, they mandate somebody else to do it (how?--they really don't know and don't care) and as incentive, allow them to charge for it. That's the Pennsylvania version of "progress".
Rendell--don't eat so much. The energy required to raise your food alone would make a large contribution.
Wacky

Macungie, PA

#3 Jul 29, 2009
Charging customers to become more energy efficienct without proper education and a rate increase? What a great business.
Sober Dude

Allentown, PA

#4 Jul 29, 2009
Wacky wrote:
Charging customers to become more energy efficienct without proper education and a rate increase? What a great business.
It does sound odd, but the money is to pay for the energy education progrmas as well as the light bulbs. What this article doesn't poin out is that the 1 to 3 percent energy reduction will save FAR more than the price tag.

Despite this, I still think it is a stupid idea. When the prices go up 30 percent, we won't need a state mandate to have customers reduce demand. It will happen all on its own.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#5 Jul 29, 2009
goon wrote:
If we had super low energy use homes and decentralized solar power for individual homes we wouldn't have much need for PPL.
Unfortunately in the States its 'business as usual". This means McMansion sized energy hog homes, power guzzler lifestyles, little interest in changing to alternative energy.
But really, charging customers to conserve ?
Politicians don't care and people don't seem to realize that all costs of doing business are passed down to the consumer.
EVERY TIME our government does something that increases business costs, we pay. This is like adding a tax without actually doing it.
ATP

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jul 29, 2009
"Dude" has a good point. I know I'm going to try to keep my windows open during the summer more often. Now if I could just get rid of the skunks....
WTF

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Jul 29, 2009
So for those of us who are ahead of the curve and already replaced all incandescent bults with CFLs and know how to conserve energy, explain to me how this will benefit me? Giving me another light bulb and telling me things I already know is not going to save me any money. PPL should benefit from this and should therefore not being passing the cost along to their customers. Should be considered a business infrastructure cost that will benefit them in the long term for an investment now.
Sober Dude

Allentown, PA

#8 Jul 29, 2009
WTF wrote:
So for those of us who are ahead of the curve and already replaced all incandescent bults with CFLs and know how to conserve energy, explain to me how this will benefit me? Giving me another light bulb and telling me things I already know is not going to save me any money. PPL should benefit from this and should therefore not being passing the cost along to their customers. Should be considered a business infrastructure cost that will benefit them in the long term for an investment now.
1. This probably won't save you any money. Do you think that every law (or any law for that matter) can possibly hope to benefit everyone?

2. Please explain to me how getting their customers to buy less electricity will save PPL money. They are only doing this because they are legally being forced to by the state.
Wacky

Macungie, PA

#9 Jul 29, 2009
They save money by forcing efficiency and not having to build new capacity to keep up with demand. All those flat panel TVs take alot of juice.
Sober Dude wrote:
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1. This probably won't save you any money. Do you think that every law (or any law for that matter) can possibly hope to benefit everyone?
2. Please explain to me how getting their customers to buy less electricity will save PPL money. They are only doing this because they are legally being forced to by the state.
Sober Dude

Allentown, PA

#10 Jul 29, 2009
Wacky wrote:
They save money by forcing efficiency and not having to build new capacity to keep up with demand. All those flat panel TVs take alot of juice.
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PPL Electric Utilities (the ones who sell you electricity) are not responsible for increasing capacity. They purchase electricity from suppliers. That is what deregulation is all about.

Because they merely distribute the electricity to you, they will not gain from this. They won't be hurt by it either as they pass the cost of the conservation programs on to customers.
nobama

Lehighton, PA

#11 Jul 29, 2009
My old Pa. Dutch grandparents had the solutions to our energy problems 50 years ago; "When you leave the room, outen the light"!!!
pretty simple!
WTF

West Chester, OH

#12 Jul 29, 2009
Sober Dude wrote:
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PPL Electric Utilities (the ones who sell you electricity) are not responsible for increasing capacity. They purchase electricity from suppliers. That is what deregulation is all about.
Because they merely distribute the electricity to you, they will not gain from this. They won't be hurt by it either as they pass the cost of the conservation programs on to customers.
Do you not understand that PPL Electric Utilities is a subsidiary of PPL Corporation? Yes that specific business unit may not benefit, but PPL Generation another subsidiary of PPL Corporation will benefit by not having to invest in new equpment to keep up with increasing energy demands. So they are saving in significant long term capital expenditures by not having to expand generating capacity. So in the end the parent company of PPL Corporation does benefit from energy conservation.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#13 Jul 30, 2009
Flavor of the week.
Wait until all of those mercury laden lights start hitting the dumps, along with all of the used batteries from Hybrid Cars. The environmentalists then will have something else to howl about, conveniently forgetting that they created the mess.
What I would like to see is PPL being required to get rid of these unsightly poles and putting their wiring underground like they do in Europe.
ATOWN RESIDENT

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Jul 30, 2009
Yes put the poles underground that was Miller wont hit them when he is DUI.
Honky Lips

Allentown, PA

#15 Sep 4, 2009
A lot of people will be pulling a lot of plugs in January.

Feb will be the worst cause januarys bill will be partially under the 1997 rates and only a few days billed at 2010

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