PPL expects massive rate hikes

Full story: Lebanon Daily News

Residential customers of PPL Electric Utilities will see their rates increase about 29.7 percent next year, the Allentown-based company has announced.

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galvodog6

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solar energy.. here i come!
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How long will it take for you to earn back your
40 or $ 50,000.00 ? Will you live that long?
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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
How long will it take for you to earn back your
40 or $ 50,000.00 ? Will you live that long?
So, put the 50K into a Cadallic Escalade, SRX or Lexus, something like that. How long does it take to 'earn' your money back from that? Oh, yeah let's put it in the bank at 1 to 2% interest, how long do you have to leave it there to make up for the cost of electricity you have been using all those years without solar on your roof? Nice institutionalized answer. Do you have to ask your broker if you can go to the bathroom too? C'mon shake it off, use your head, do some home work, get real answers. www.dsireusa.org .
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galvodog6 wrote:
solar energy.. here i come!
look up some sites: www.dsireusa.org and try www.enphaseenergy.com . This is a new style solar PV that uses a micro inverter per panel. This way if a panel fails it doesn't take down a whole string in the system, if one inverter fails, it doesn't take down the whole system until it is replaced. With this type of system you can add one panel and one micro inverter at a time to increase capacity in the future. Right now with the 30% Federal tax incentive and perhaps other incentives in your particular state ( see dsireusa ) a PV system costing around 40K installed could be reduced to around 20 to 22K installed. Try that with a vehicle purchase, now that math doesn't work out, but solar does.
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Where'd the cars come from?
This stories about electricity, Einstein.

Cars are transportation, they're not investments.

You'll never recover your solar investment.
It would take many decades to break even.
Most people would move long before breaking even.

The only homes you could install solar on are homes built for that purpose. The roofing substructure would collapse from the weight of all that junk.

In 15-20 years you'll need a new roof.
Now you remove all that junk, replace the roof then put all that solar crap back onto the roof.

Unless you're 18 years old, have $ 50,000.00 to spare, are able to keep your home through job changes, transfers, divorce and even meeting that woman "honey I want OUR house" , by the time you're 75 or 80 ..........mmmmaybe, just maybe, you may break even.

Investment? No.

Good deal? For the guy ( solarman ) who earns commission selling that garbage - yeah.
Fine investment for his pocket.
Solarman

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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
Where'd the cars come from?
This stories about electricity, Einstein.
Cars are transportation, they're not investments.
You'll never recover your solar investment.
It would take many decades to break even.
Most people would move long before breaking even.
The only homes you could install solar on are homes built for that purpose. The roofing substructure would collapse from the weight of all that junk.
In 15-20 years you'll need a new roof.
Now you remove all that junk, replace the roof then put all that solar crap back onto the roof.
Unless you're 18 years old, have $ 50,000.00 to spare, are able to keep your home through job changes, transfers, divorce and even meeting that woman "honey I want OUR house" , by the time you're 75 or 80 ..........mmmmaybe, just maybe, you may break even.
Investment? No.
Good deal? For the guy ( solarman ) who earns commission selling that garbage - yeah.
Fine investment for his pocket.
The worst lie you tell is the one you tell yourself. Einstein, I mentioned the car to prove your institutionalization into the consumer market. 50K is 50k, the point is what you get when you spend it,capeche. The solar system I had installed on my house added 3.5 pounds per square foot, not that much of a load. It will pay for itself at the 'current' rate in about 15 years. Less if cap and trade passes. As for moving along before an investment pays for itself. Remodel a kitchen, bathroom, add a game room? Put in a pool and then have to sell? What's the difference, between a pool and a solar PV system? Would not the prospect of low to no electric bills increase the price of the home, even in this market? What are you a miserable divorcee renter? Not 'everybody' has made your choices in life and not everybody needs your poorly conceived advice on how long it will take to payoff a solar system. You didn't look at the dsire site did you? I have offered my experience with solar and web sites that explain the programs that ALL of our tax monies have gone to support. So leave your money in the bank, buy your car, and leave your tax money in the Governments hands, don't get any back, now you're going to tell me that's the stand up thing to do, right?

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The question should be, how much of a pay increase will the CEO and other executives get with this "rate hike"?
Sal Governale

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The question should be, how much of a pay increase will the CEO and other executives get with this "rate hike"?
Don't most CEO's today get atleast 10-12 million in salary, maybe another 2-3 in bonus????? I guess they are getting a 10-15% raise, the rest may go to the other employees, but they say they are going to use the money to upgrade equipment.
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I still find it amazing that when PPL goes in front of the Pennsylvania Public Utilities Commission, they plead poverty, and point out how they are on the verge of bankruptcy.

However, when PPL goes in front of its Wall Street investors and stock holder, they point out unprecedented profit, and project continued increase in profits.

PPL can't be both poor and rich at the same time. To one audience or the other, PPL has to be lying (or today we say "spinning" the truth).
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Solarman wrote:
<quoted text>The worst lie you tell is the one you tell yourself. Einstein, I mentioned the car to prove your institutionalization into the consumer market. 50K is 50k, the point is what you get when you spend it,capeche. The solar system I had installed on my house added 3.5 pounds per square foot, not that much of a load. It will pay for itself at the 'current' rate in about 15 years. Less if cap and trade passes. As for moving along before an investment pays for itself. Remodel a kitchen, bathroom, add a game room? Put in a pool and then have to sell? What's the difference, between a pool and a solar PV system? Would not the prospect of low to no electric bills increase the price of the home, even in this market? What are you a miserable divorcee renter? Not 'everybody' has made your choices in life and not everybody needs your poorly conceived advice on how long it will take to payoff a solar system. You didn't look at the dsire site did you? I have offered my experience with solar and web sites that explain the programs that ALL of our tax monies have gone to support. So leave your money in the bank, buy your car, and leave your tax money in the Governments hands, don't get any back, now you're going to tell me that's the stand up thing to do, right?
I don't care what you say, I'm not buying one of your overpriced bundles of siht to put on my roof and collapse it.

What you should do is put all your overpriced solar-horse-dung into a big box, set it out in your yard. The cats will know what to do with it from there.
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Sal Governale wrote:
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Don't most CEO's today get atleast 10-12 million in salary, maybe another 2-3 in bonus????? I guess they are getting a 10-15% raise, the rest may go to the other employees, but they say they are going to use the money to upgrade equipment.
You don't like the price tag, don't buy the product.

1-You could get rid of your bigscreen tv and go down to a 12" set.
2-Dump your fridge and build an ice box.
3-Trash the microwave and heat your food on your charcoal grill.
4-Exchange your stereo for a nice hand-held transistor radio.
5-get rid of the vcr, todays movies scuk anyway.
6-unscrew your bulbs and buy candles.
7-Do away with your outdoor lights and buy kerosene lanterns.
8-Get rid of the electric razor and shave like a man.
9-Unpulg those electric clocks and buy a nice swiss windup job.
10-Hang a clothesline.
11-Do your wash while you're in the shower.
12-Heat your water using a campfire. Hey, if it was good enough for Wyatt Earp, it's good enough for you.

for cooling, you could call "solarman" and that big blowhard will cool you off in no time with his solar panel salespitch.

All of these ideas worked out great for Ralph and Alice in the early 50's, it'll work for you too.

Or better yet, just throw your main breaker off, leave it off and use NO electricity......yeah.....that 'll teach them.
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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
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I don't care what you say, I'm not buying one of your overpriced bundles of siht to put on my roof and collapse it.
What you should do is put all your overpriced solar-horse-dung into a big box, set it out in your yard. The cats will know what to do with it from there.
The cats seem to be smarter than you. The roof of your shanty should be deemed unsafe by code enforcement. The only pile here is the stupidity your troweling out. You eat it.
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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
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You don't like the price tag, don't buy the product.
1-You could get rid of your bigscreen tv and go down to a 12" set.
2-Dump your fridge and build an ice box.
3-Trash the microwave and heat your food on your charcoal grill.
4-Exchange your stereo for a nice hand-held transistor radio.
5-get rid of the vcr, todays movies scuk anyway.
6-unscrew your bulbs and buy candles.
7-Do away with your outdoor lights and buy kerosene lanterns.
8-Get rid of the electric razor and shave like a man.
9-Unpulg those electric clocks and buy a nice swiss windup job.
10-Hang a clothesline.
11-Do your wash while you're in the shower
12-Heat your water using a campfire. Hey, if it was good enough for Wyatt Earp, it's good enough for you.
for cooling, you could call "solarman" and that big blowhard will cool you off in no time with his solar panel salespitch.
All of these ideas worked out great for Ralph and Alice in the early 50's, it'll work for you too.
Or better yet, just throw your main breaker off, leave it off and use NO electricity......yeah.....that 'll teach them.
Wow, do your handlers know that you post on websites such as this? I guess you like being bent over and raped, like last year at the gas pump. You must have fallen in love with the idea of paying way more than the product is worth. I have a 19" old dial style TV I can sell you for $350. And a VCR, its beta, works ok, you can have it for $250, what a steal. When you go buy a car do you insist on paying over sticker price??? Hurry up sunshine, better get your meds checked out, they may be affecting your logic..........What's a human without logic?? A chimp. Harvey "Chimp" Wallbanger
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Sal Governale wrote:
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Wow, do your handlers know that you post on websites such as this? I guess you like being bent over and raped, like last year at the gas pump. You must have fallen in love with the idea of paying way more than the product is worth. I have a 19" old dial style TV I can sell you for $350. And a VCR, its beta, works ok, you can have it for $250, what a steal. When you go buy a car do you insist on paying over sticker price??? Hurry up sunshine, better get your meds checked out, they may be affecting your logic..........What's a human without logic?? A chimp. Harvey "Chimp" Wallbanger
This coming from a guy who watches movies with beta tapes hooked uo to a 19" rabbit-ear tv set and lives in Catasauqua.
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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
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This coming from a guy who watches movies with beta tapes hooked uo to a 19" rabbit-ear tv set and lives in Catasauqua.
I am truely amazed by you inablity to realize real life. If you knew about how these posting boards work, you would realize, that the town listed is where the ISP, or internet service provider, is located. We won't even touch on the TV subject, I am afraid you will be way to confused about what is the real world and what is the clouded mind of yours.

Just remember, yell out, "Nurse, nurse, I think my meds are messing up my ability to think.........at all"
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Wait...PP&L's increase is only the beginning...wait 'til the Democrats pass the Nobel Peace prize winners Cap and Tax (AKA climate change legislation) Plan...then, 29.7% will seem like small change.
Voters...you asked for it, you got it !!!
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Harvey must be part of the 'I've got mine, screw you' contingent that posts here.

"Real Americans" who are proud of the fact that they got theirs (who knows how..I suspect inheritance) and can sit back and make snide remarks when people complain that they aren't getting a fair shake.

"Patriots" who refuse to concede or accept a small tax increase or someone other financial sacrifice for the benefit of ALL American citizens...yet seem to have no problem being the beneficiary of the sacrifice of life and limb that other Americans have made for them so they can enjoy the right to be a garbage-spewing, self-absorbed ass.
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Clown Patrol wrote:
Harvey must be part of the 'I've got mine, screw you' contingent that posts here.
"Real Americans" who are proud of the fact that they got theirs (who knows how..I suspect inheritance) and can sit back and make snide remarks when people complain that they aren't getting a fair shake.
"Patriots" who refuse to concede or accept a small tax increase or someone other financial sacrifice for the benefit of ALL American citizens...yet seem to have no problem being the beneficiary of the sacrifice of life and limb that other Americans have made for them so they can enjoy the right to be a garbage-spewing, self-absorbed ass.
Send in the clowns..........don't bother....they're here.
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Clown Patrol wrote:
Harvey must be part of the 'I've got mine, screw you' contingent that posts here.
"Real Americans" who are proud of the fact that they got theirs (who knows how..I suspect inheritance) and can sit back and make snide remarks when people complain that they aren't getting a fair shake.
"Patriots" who refuse to concede or accept a small tax increase or someone other financial sacrifice for the benefit of ALL American citizens...yet seem to have no problem being the beneficiary of the sacrifice of life and limb that other Americans have made for them so they can enjoy the right to be a garbage-spewing, self-absorbed ass.
try eating home 1 or 2 days a month. be no problem paying your electric bill then.

You could keep your car 4-5 years instead of 2-3 years.
you could switch from beer to water. Save there.

Try living within your means.

there's a bridge not too far from Earl. You could live under that one and pay no electric.

That'll teach those louey PPL bastards.
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Harvey Wallbanger wrote:
Where'd the cars come from?
This stories about electricity, Einstein.
Cars are transportation, they're not investments.
You'll never recover your solar investment.
It would take many decades to break even.
Most people would move long before breaking even.
The only homes you could install solar on are homes built for that purpose. The roofing substructure would collapse from the weight of all that junk.
In 15-20 years you'll need a new roof.
Now you remove all that junk, replace the roof then put all that solar crap back onto the roof.
Unless you're 18 years old, have $ 50,000.00 to spare, are able to keep your home through job changes, transfers, divorce and even meeting that woman "honey I want OUR house" , by the time you're 75 or 80 ..........mmmmaybe, just maybe, you may break even.
Investment? No.
Good deal? For the guy ( solarman ) who earns commission selling that garbage - yeah.
Fine investment for his pocket.
thats misinformation... my power company allots 40% OF THE COST OF SOLAR energy because the federal govt gives them the to do so... and then whatever power i do not use, it gets resold back to the power company....as for a new roof.. same principle as central air on a roof

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