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Philip Morris Int'l CEO: Tobacco not hard to quit

There are 14 comments on the Leonia Life story from May 11, 2011, titled Philip Morris Int'l CEO: Tobacco not hard to quit. In it, Leonia Life reports that:

The head of cigarette maker Philip Morris International Inc. told a cancer nurse Wednesday that while cigarettes are harmful and addictive, it is not that hard to quit.

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Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#2 May 11, 2011
Quitting is so easy, I wonder how many times HE's done it?
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#3 May 11, 2011
I have to say, though, that this is the first time I've read of a modern-day tobacco exec who actually smokes.

What was that quote that was everywhere for a while? "We don't smoke that #&@^*$! We reserve that to the young, the poor, the stupid, and the black"? Something very close to those exact words, and certainly with that description of the customer base.
Commonsenseman

Columbus, OH

#4 May 11, 2011
Hugh Jass wrote:
I have to say, though, that this is the first time I've read of a modern-day tobacco exec who actually smokes.
What was that quote that was everywhere for a while? "We don't smoke that #&@^*$! We reserve that to the young, the poor, the stupid, and the black"? Something very close to those exact words, and certainly with that description of the customer base.
Here's the exact quote: In America; Tobacco Dollars
By BOB HERBERT
Published: November 28, 1993

A few years ago I interviewed a rugged-looking, jut-jawed fellow named David Goerlitz, a former model who was once known as the Winston Man because he had appeared in Winston cigarette ads for the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.

Mr. Goerlitz described an outdoor photo session in which several cartons of Winstons were scattered around. A number of Reynolds executives were at the session and Mr. Goerlitz asked if it would be all right if he took a few cartons for himself.

One of the executives said, sure, take them all.

Mr. Goerlitz, surprised, said, "Don't any of you smoke?"

The executive shook his head. "Are you kidding?" he asked. "We reserve that right for the poor, the young, the black and the stupid."

Perhaps we could print that disclaimer on cigarette packs along with the new one (proposed in the House and supported by the Surgeon General) that says bluntly, "Cigarettes can kill you."

The poor, the young, the black and the stupid.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/28/opinion/in-...
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#5 May 11, 2011
There are a lot of renderings out there. Here are some that google spit out right quick:

http://www.tobacco.org/News/9910tobaccowars.h...

"One of the executives from RJ Reynolds came over and said 'What are you doing?' And I said, "Well I'm smoking.' And then he said 'Are you still smoking that stuff?' And I said,'Yeah, how come you guys from RJ Reynolds don't smoke?' And he turned to me and said 'We don't smoke the shit, we just sell it. We reserve the right to smoke for the young, the poor, the black and the stupid.'"
-- David Goerlitz
"The Winston Man," 1981-88
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http://leonbrooks.blogspot.com/2005/06/young-...
“In general none of the managers of RJ Reynolds Tobacco Company smoked. I asked them why they aren’t smokers. I was really surprised. One said:‘We don’t smoke this shit, we only sell it.’ I smiled and he added:‘We reserve the right to smoke for the young, the poor, the black and the stupid.’”— David Garlitz, former Winston promoter
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http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/research/facts...

“We don’t smoke that s___. We just sell it. We reserve the right to smoke for the young, the poor, the black and stupid.”1
R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company Executive

1 Giovanni, J,“Come to Cancer Country; USA; Focus,” The Times of London, August 2, 1992 [quoting Dave Goerlitz, RJ Reynolds’ lead Winston model for seven years, re what an R.J. Reynolds executive replied to him when Goerlitz asked why the executive did not smoke].
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http://whyquit.com/pr/061505.html

In 1992, David Goerlitz, an actor promoting R.J. Reynolds products asked an R.J. Reynolds executive why he didn't smoke. He replied, "We don't smoke that sh**. We just sell it. We just reserve the right to smoke for the young, the poor, the black and the stupid." - Thames TV, First Tuesday, Tobacco Wars, 1992, 2 June.

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http://ezkool.com/2011/04/the-young-the-poor-...
In the words of an R.J. Reynolds tobacco com­pany exec­u­tive “WE DONT SMOKE THAT SHIT, WE JUST SELL IT. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE TO THE YOUNG, THE POOR THE BLACK AND STUPID”. You do the math.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#6 May 11, 2011
Commonsenseman wrote:
Perhaps we could print that disclaimer on cigarette packs along with the new one (proposed in the House and supported by the Surgeon General) that says bluntly, "Cigarettes can kill you."
The poor, the young, the black and the stupid.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/28/opinion/in-...
Thank you, by the way, for following up on that.

It would make a great billboard ad campaign, eh?

Perhaps the government would make an exception if a tobacco company wanted to advertise exactly that angle on TV...
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#7 May 12, 2011
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#8 May 12, 2011
We seem to have a two-fer going on this topic.
Here are links to a couple of other related threads.

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/smoking/T3O...

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/smoking/TG4...
abadapple

Vancouver, Canada

#9 May 13, 2011
i guess hes saying heroin ig harder to quit to cigs have been proven to be harder to quit than heroin,what a fu head

“68 65 6c 6c 6f”

Since: Mar 11

Quinton, VA

#10 May 13, 2011
Your people are crazy. I quit smoking about 15 times a day everyday.

All kidding aside. I have tried to quit several times in life thus far and he is right it is easy to quit but extremely difficult if not damn near impossible to stop for any period of time. What an absolutely stupid comment for him to make. I am pretty sure I have never heard the head of lets say Anheuser-Busch to say it is easy to stop drinking.
Jeff K

Midlothian, VA

#11 May 13, 2011
I know some people who 'quit' once or twice a month, and have been trying to do so forever. I also know others who have quit "cold turkey" at the drop of a hat.

The habit affects different people in different ways.

What I find true is that our government is probably more 'addicted' to the tax revenue from tobacco than smokers are to the nicotine.

“68 65 6c 6c 6f”

Since: Mar 11

Quinton, VA

#12 May 13, 2011
Jeff K wrote:
I know some people who 'quit' once or twice a month, and have been trying to do so forever. I also know others who have quit "cold turkey" at the drop of a hat.
The habit affects different people in different ways.
What I find true is that our government is probably more 'addicted' to the tax revenue from tobacco than smokers are to the nicotine.
You sure got that right. If Tylenol was 1/100000000th as bad as tobacco it would have bee pulled from the shelves decades ago. Why? Noting in the way of long term tax revenue. The government uses the health effects to generate revenue and really could give a shit less about the health effects. Shorty the same concept will be applied to candy, soda, snacks etc. The argument for the tax will be childhood obesity but they tax will apply to all who have a snack regardless of how healthy they choose to live. The democrats just LOVE this kind of taxation.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#13 May 13, 2011
buzzfriendly wrote:
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You sure got that right. If Tylenol was 1/100000000th as bad as tobacco it would have bee pulled from the shelves decades ago. Why? Noting in the way of long term tax revenue. The government uses the health effects to generate revenue and really could give a shit less about the health effects. Shorty the same concept will be applied to candy, soda, snacks etc. The argument for the tax will be childhood obesity but they tax will apply to all who have a snack regardless of how healthy they choose to live. The democrats just LOVE this kind of taxation.
Actually, the bill that gave the FDA "power" (yeah, right) to regulate tobacco products could not have been passed without the cooperation of Philip Morris, and that distinctly altered the nature of the law it became. The tobacco companies have "representatives" on the scientific advisory committee for that regulation.

Oddly, public health was the reason given in the Senate for not trying for a bill that would prohibit smoking entirely. The specter of tens of millions of Americans being put into cold turkey withdrawals was raised.

That particular specter extends as far beyond the addicts themselves as the harm of smoking does beyond the smokers themselves. Try to imagine the effect that many people with simultaneous nic fits would have on the "bar rush" at local emergency wards.
Slurpee Summit

Salem, VA

#14 May 13, 2011
If they stop manufacturing cigs, I will be growing tobacco! Organic Tobacco for sale....lmao.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#15 May 13, 2011
Slurpee Summit wrote:
If they stop manufacturing cigs, I will be growing tobacco! Organic Tobacco for sale....lmao.
The time is approaching when law enforcement would be able to offer vaccination against nicotine addiction as an alternative to penalties for violating such a law. Without nicotine addiction, I don't think anyone will find it worthwhile to go to the trouble and risk you propose.

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