Marin real estate agents call for mor...

Marin real estate agents call for moratorium on 'smart meters'

There are 125 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Jul 14, 2010, titled Marin real estate agents call for moratorium on 'smart meters'. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

The Marin Association of Realtors on Wednesday called on Pacific Gas and Electric Co.

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HELLO County Supervisors

Mill Valley, CA

#1 Jul 14, 2010
Why is Fairfax City Council the only Marin Governmental body to look at this issue on behalf of their residents ?

Are the County Supervisors on a permanent vacation or do they just NOT care ?

Is THAT why the Marin Association of Realtors has had to step in and take the responsiblity for something that the County supervisors should be doing ???
Pot Smoking Moronite

San Clemente, CA

#3 Jul 14, 2010
Believe this....realtors, as a group, are looking out for numero uno! There must be a reason that they're directly being affected by this.

Most realtors/real estate brokers are the epitome of the most immoral, unethical people you'll ever meet. They'll give you the bs line they're held to high standards when it comes to ethics and morals...yea right...

This is a bigger smoke screen than any hit from the bong of truth!

Since: Jun 10

Marin County

#4 Jul 14, 2010
Pot Smoking Moronite wrote:
Most realtors/real estate brokers are the epitome of the most immoral, unethical people you'll ever meet.
I don't know....I thought that split level house the realtor offered me in Chernobyl was a bargain and I'm still wavering.
Pot Smoking Moronite

San Clemente, CA

#5 Jul 14, 2010
Bill E Goat wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know....I thought that split level house the realtor offered me in Chernobyl was a bargain and I'm still wavering.
Realtor by day, KGB agent by night.....

What a country! In the US you can always find a party...in Russia, party always finds you...

Yakov Smirnov.
Frank Costello

San Rafael, CA

#6 Jul 14, 2010
Just say No!
May Bee

AOL

#7 Jul 14, 2010
Now why on earth would the board of realtors do that? What expertise could they possibly have regarding smart meters? It makes no sense. Smart meters may be a good thing or a bad thing. I don't know for sure. I do know that the board of realtors would know no more than I do.
About time

Novato, CA

#8 Jul 14, 2010
At least someone is looking into the smart meters!!!
I like it

Mill Valley, CA

#9 Jul 14, 2010
Well, I want the SmartMeter installed at my house so that I too can monitor the usage pattern. It's valuable information to help me save electricity.

Privacy? Privacy doesn't matter when everyone else's information is out there too. As it is, information is collected whenever we cross bridges using Fastrak transponders, and they are also used to detect congestions. in addition, every time we use Internet services, such as this one, some form of information is being collected.

As the best way to hide and remain anonymous is to be in a crowd. I have nothing to hide with regards to my electricity usage, and I'd imagine that someone looking at my usage pattern would found it pretty uninteresting.

Bring it on! I want my SmartMeter.
Obama_No_You_Can t

Novato, CA

#10 Jul 14, 2010
Yeah. No kidding...I may not be sold on Smart Meters...But with opposition like this, maybe I should be?
Oscar the Grouch

Union City, CA

#11 Jul 14, 2010
I'm afraid Marin has become a charicature of itself. GMAFB! Why is a meter that transmits its data digitally any less accurate than an analog meter read by a human who writes down the meter reading? In fact, no human entry system is ever as accurate as a direct digital entry system, not by a long shot. Oooo! The radio waves cause health problems!(BTW, Mr. Halstead, "wireless radio" is a redundancy.) And how many called to lodge that complaint from a "wireless cell phone" plastered against the side of their head? I've heard about enough of this "radio wave" hysteria. If it bothers you, wrap your fooking head in tinfoil like the rest of the nut cases. And privacy! OMG! Somebody (like the guy selling it to you) might be able to know how much electricity I'm using! Trust me, Pilgrims, you've got a lot more to worry about with regards to your privacy in today's world than keeping how much electricity you use secret. Maybe you haven't considered that when you write in here, "they" know who you are, what you say, and where you said it from... and that information is FOREVER. Hope that doesn't disturb your sleep.

People ought to be worrying about a lot more important things than their electric meter. Like, maybe, why sleazebag outfits like the Board of Realtors(tm) is grandstanding on an issue like this. Who appointed them the protector of the citizenry around here? You're all getting conned, folks. Wise up!
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#12 Jul 14, 2010
There are several issues involved with SmartMeters:

--If they are more accurate, that is a good thing & should be recognized as such
--If they actually ARE more accurate, then the old-style meters resulted in undercharging.
--This discrepancy affects revenue, which is the REAL issue for PG&E or any provider of electric service.
--If the increased accuracy of Smart Meters results in a generally uniform pattern of increased charges, THAT is a real problem.
If that is the case, then the PUC should LOWER rates to achieve revenue neutrality.

The issue of radio transmission is entirely a technical issue, on par with the ongoing issue about cell phone transmissions causing cancer or simply cooking your brain.
Balance

San Anselmo, CA

#13 Jul 14, 2010
Wow, I didn't know Marin realtOrs had electrical engineering degrees to make such educated recommendations.
Read about the technology, study the patents, then come back and complain. Just make sure your cell phone is off, because in the time you just read this, your cell phone at idle just emitted more RF through your body than your smart meter ever will (not to mention your WiFi enabled laptop).
The fact is we need to manage energy, it's not the '60s anymore. Back then we had toilets that used 7+ gallons to flush, now we can use 1.1 (or less). Should we have built more reservoirs or desal plants to accommodate increased use, or use technology to build a better mouse trap?
The technology of smart meters is the future; load balancing of the grid is the future. I cant understand on how such a genuine 'green' technology has met such resistance. Unless of course, the resistance is uneducated to the technology, or is biased because it is represented by PG&E. PG&E is not the issue here (though they are a feel good punching bag), what is the issue is American technology to be on the forefront of energy management. California has always been the lead; let's help our state and country take advantage of what this technology has to offer.
Bolinaswholes

United States

#14 Jul 14, 2010
I'd rather have a Smart Peter.
Mary Ann

Vallejo, CA

#15 Jul 14, 2010
Bolinaswholes wrote:
I'd rather have a Smart Peter.
What you really need are some balls. There is no such thing as a Smart Peter.
Sanctuary City - SR

United States

#16 Jul 14, 2010
I like it wrote:
Well, I want the SmartMeter installed at my house so that I too can monitor the usage pattern. It's valuable information to help me save electricity.
Privacy? Privacy doesn't matter when everyone else's information is out there too. As it is, information is collected whenever we cross bridges using Fastrak transponders, and they are also used to detect congestions. in addition, every time we use Internet services, such as this one, some form of information is being collected.
As the best way to hide and remain anonymous is to be in a crowd. I have nothing to hide with regards to my electricity usage, and I'd imagine that someone looking at my usage pattern would found it pretty uninteresting.
Bring it on! I want my SmartMeter.
What part of this don't you get? You'll be monitoring, which i agree can be beneficial, BUT you'll be over-charged. That's the main arguement, I Like It, that residents are being OVER CHARGED w/ this new system....comprehendo?????
Bolinaswholes

United States

#17 Jul 14, 2010
My dog, Peter is stupid. I wish he was smart. He would then be a Smart Peter...
Mary Ann wrote:
<quoted text>
What you really need are some balls. There is no such thing as a Smart Peter.
Bolinaswholes

United States

#18 Jul 14, 2010
I do have some balls. But Peter won't go after them. He is not a Smart Peter..
Mary Ann wrote:
<quoted text>
What you really need are some balls. There is no such thing as a Smart Peter.
Mary Ann

Vallejo, CA

#19 Jul 14, 2010
Peter is not the only thing that is stupid.
Marinite

United States

#20 Jul 15, 2010
May Bee wrote:
Now why on earth would the board of realtors do that? What expertise could they possibly have regarding smart meters? It makes no sense. Smart meters may be a good thing or a bad thing. I don't know for sure. I do know that the board of realtors would know no more than I do.
This is the exact point! A moratorium on further installation of smart meters so that the possible ramifications can be studied. PG&E neglected to inform citizen HOME OWNERS (and everyone else) about the details of this project.
factminder

Alamo, CA

#21 Jul 15, 2010
Pot Smoking Moronite wrote:
Believe this....realtors, as a group, are looking out for numero uno! There must be a reason that they're directly being affected by this.
Most realtors/real estate brokers are the epitome of the most immoral, unethical people you'll ever meet. They'll give you the bs line they're held to high standards when it comes to ethics and morals...yea right...
This is a bigger smoke screen than any hit from the bong of truth!
Realtors know that they can't sell a house with a Smart meter to a Smart buyer.

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