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Answer me this: PG&E reaches out to Humboldt County customers with SmartMeter questions

There are 50 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Nov 30, 2010, titled Answer me this: PG&E reaches out to Humboldt County customers with SmartMeter questions. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Pacific Gas and Electric kicked off its face-to-face outreach Monday with an Answer Center session in Eureka geared toward SmartMeters.

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fed up

Turlock, CA

#42 Dec 1, 2010
Pulipaca wrote:
<quoted text>I havne't done the math, but to have a power bill that high, they would have to be running around 26 1000 watt lights 24/7. Probably in 2 shifts. That would be a problem because the total load would be on continuosly at 100 percent of capacity, a dangerous condition.
Anyway, there is no doubt that PG&E loves the market situation in Humboldt Co. Even if the new radio meters run a bit fast , nobody is going to complain up there.
And your concerns about indoor growers begging for subsidy, I think are unfounded. Doing what they do, most know not to raise any red flags. So with a high power bill, how can they claim that they have no money ? Most people are not that stupid.
Keep in mind that in more wealthy areas such as Marin, it is not uncommon for a single family residence (a real house) to have an average bill of $1200 per month, some much, much more.
Think of all the media devices in each kids bedroom, the home entertainment center, the pool pumps, the spa pumps, the elevators and hillevators, electric gates, exotic lighting systems both inside and out like for tennis courts, the big refrigerators and freezers, wine cellar chillers, pool pumps, irrigation well pumps, sewer ejector pumps, sump pumps, heat pumps, guest houses, pool houses and servants quarters.
People should not be paranoid of PG&E, they are in the business of selling power, and THE MO, THE BETTAH !
The point I'm trying to make here is that it insults our intelligence when a corporation develops a device soley to increase profits by means of eliminating fair wage jobs. I bring up the indoor grows to show the most flagrant abuse of power consumption and the incredible amount of money Pg&e is making from that. I was shocked when I read the dolar amount that this one grow was paying to pg&e. And yet this company has the odacity to send someone to my house, government subsidized, to change my light bulbs to flourescents. The energy I'm saving in 30 years wouldn't equal 30 days in one of these grow houses. Pg&e is swimming in cash and investing its profits to eliminate jobs to increase its profitability.
Anonymous

Arcata, CA

#43 Dec 1, 2010
Fed up-- that's the tea-baggers' delight: free-market capitalism at work. Maximize profits for shareholders. Business can do no wrong, especially when it becomes more "productive" by eliminating workers.
fed up

Turlock, CA

#44 Dec 1, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
Fed up-- that's the tea-baggers' delight: free-market capitalism at work. Maximize profits for shareholders. Business can do no wrong, especially when it becomes more "productive" by eliminating workers.
pg&e doesn't operate on a free market basis. They get gauranteed money regulated by a government watchdog. Teabaggers argue for less government. With the teabaggers we would have a true competitive market that would at least result in lower utility costs, if not more jobs. With the government controlled system here we're getting fewer jobs and high utility costs.
Save the Humans

Bethel Island, CA

#45 Dec 1, 2010
Bah wrote:
I wonder if anyone thought to ask whether the Blue Lake law prohibiting installation of the smart meters would have any affect at all on meter installation?
More information on this please...I am too lazy to surf.
Couch and Bud

Emeryville, CA

#46 Dec 1, 2010
Save the Humans wrote:
More information on this please...I am too lazy to surf.
I know what you mean.
I just text in my order to Pizza Dude
and the guy delivers and feeds me.
tomtom

Arcata, CA

#47 Dec 1, 2010
How often do these "Smart Meters" fail leaving you in the dark while the PG&E help line to India orders a replacement from China...

Since: Feb 08

Hana, HI

#48 Dec 1, 2010
tomtom wrote:
How often do these "Smart Meters" fail leaving you in the dark while the PG&E help line to India orders a replacement from China...
Very good question.
The new meters have not been in operation very long, and there will be bugs that need to be fixed. Supposedly the new meters are capable of making or breaking contact (turning on or off power to the building served by that meter), but the meters don't prevent power outages. Power outages are caused by many things like, drunk drivers hitting power poles, storm related causes, overloading sectors of the grid, heat related equipment failure, deliberate intentions like the Enron blackouts and human error of people working on the transmission and distribution system (the power grid).
The meters are NOT the grid, contrary to what the government/corporations have been spinning out to the media, and the grid is not the source of electricity generated either. The source could come from anywhere in the country now that the industry has been deregulated and power is "wheeled" on long aging transmission lines where the power could be sourced from, coal fired, LNG fired, nuclear fired power plants, geothermal, hydrogen fuel cells, wind or solar power generators.
We have to realize that when PG&E has an outage, there revenue stream is stopped in the outage area, that is most important to them. In a large outage, they could be losing millions of dollars per minute, not to mention having angry customers.
Bah

Moraga, CA

#49 Dec 1, 2010
Laurie Birdsall wrote:
PGE is transgressing on human rights and the freedom to choose wether to be inflicted with electromagnetic frequency on a continuous basis in your own home. I was not notified prior to the installation of the smart meter on my home and when I went to tape a "No Smart Meter Sign" on my meter I found I already had one.
Since I have environmental sensitivities and an already compromised immune system, I am greatly disturbed at this violation to my right for a healthy safe home environment.
When I asked the representative at the Mon mtg, she simply apologized and said there was nothing they could do to remove the smart meter.
Since the installation, I have noticed tension in my head, like the precursor to a headache, brain fog, and swollen lymph glands.
Since smart meters emit frequencies for 1/2 mile distances, all our neighborhoods will be a buzz of EF smog. I would like the thing removed not only from my house but from my community.
Laurie Birdsall
McKinleyville
When the radio was invented the life expectancy was less than 50 years old. Now we live to over 80. If there is in fact, a negative effect, the positive results of technology appear to far outweigh the negative affects. Stay away from asbestos, though.

“Alius bardus latin laudo”

Since: Nov 08

Jackson St Forest, CA

#50 Aug 5, 2011
Laurie Birdsall wrote:
PGE is transgressing on human rights and the freedom to choose wether to be inflicted with electromagnetic frequency on a continuous basis in your own home. I was not notified prior to the installation of the smart meter on my home and when I went to tape a "No Smart Meter Sign" on my meter I found I already had one.
Since I have environmental sensitivities and an already compromised immune system, I am greatly disturbed at this violation to my right for a healthy safe home environment.
When I asked the representative at the Mon mtg, she simply apologized and said there was nothing they could do to remove the smart meter.
Since the installation, I have noticed tension in my head, like the precursor to a headache, brain fog, and swollen lymph glands.
Since smart meters emit frequencies for 1/2 mile distances, all our neighborhoods will be a buzz of EF smog. I would like the thing removed not only from my house but from my community.
Laurie Birdsall
McKinleyville
Ham radios broadcast on the same band and on most ham radios the power is over 100x the power of a smart meter. We have had ham radios for many years.

“Alius bardus latin laudo”

Since: Nov 08

Jackson St Forest, CA

#51 Aug 5, 2011
fed up wrote:
<quoted text> pg&e doesn't operate on a free market basis. They get gauranteed money regulated by a government watchdog. Teabaggers argue for less government. With the teabaggers we would have a true competitive market that would at least result in lower utility costs, if not more jobs. With the government controlled system here we're getting fewer jobs and high utility costs.
That was the idea behind deregulation.

I like free markets, but in critical areas we should have a stable system not prone to market fluctuations.

Water, sewer, police, fire, and electricity are required for a stable society.

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