Guest commentary: Smart Meters

Guest commentary: Smart Meters

There are 27 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jan 5, 2011, titled Guest commentary: Smart Meters. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

As a resident of Lake County, a transplant from a county that is far ahead of Lake County on the issue of PG&E's "Smart Meters" and as someone who has followed this issue closely for years, I feel compelled to request that Lake County and the cities within it consider an immediate moratorium on "Smart Meters" and pulsed microwave radiation ...

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Jim Hall

Oklahoma City, OK

#1 Jan 5, 2011
Something that should not be hurried into blindly.
no meter for me

San Pablo, CA

#2 Jan 6, 2011
PG&E, which was dinged for poor customer service, told the newspaper that the problems are not with the smart meters, but with all the other wireless
equipment their customers have.
Here, a PG&E spokesman advises one customer to get a refund on the baby monitor:
“We are sorry the customer encountered this inconvenience. The SmartMeter device meets all Federal Communications Commission standards, so in cases like this, the baby monitor wasn’t built to our standard where it would not receive interference from legally transmitted equipment like a SmartMeter meter. It is likely that the replacement monitor was designed so it would not receive interference from legally transmitting equipment, which is why it is no longer
experiencing interference. This reader might want to seek a refund from the store or maker of the first monitor she purchased.”s.

Springfield, MO

#3 Jan 6, 2011
I was told that people who have them have seen their PG&E bill climb as high as 4 times the regular amount. The least of the hikes was double the regular amount. I for one say that PG&E can take thier "smart meters" and shove them. Don't get me wrong I'm all for saving energy, but not like that.
no meter for me

San Pablo, CA

#4 Jan 6, 2011
Not environmently friendly
The new smart meters are fully electronic. That is, they use an electronic means of sensing the wattage (current and voltage) flowing through, a chip to analyse the data, an LCD display to show the kilowatt hours, and a transmitter/receiver circuit for remote meter reading. The electronics in the smart meters will use more electricity than analogue meters. When no electricity is consumed in the house, analogue meters don't spin and hence consume no power. Smart meters constantly draw current to keep themselves operating. There is simply no benefit to consumers or the environment.
Say NO

Waterloo, IA

#5 Jan 6, 2011
Agree with all the above comments. Are Smart meters going to be installed in Lake Co. in January (heard that on a radio show). Do we have the right to refuse the installation? I have a sign on my meter "Do not install a Smart meter". I'm guessing that would not stop them?
Jim T Hole

Vina, CA

#6 Jan 6, 2011
Grunt uses a fart meter to measure Rogaine levels in his flatus.
Philip Murphy

Campbell, CA

#7 Jan 6, 2011
Jim T Hole wrote:
Grunt uses a fart meter to measure Rogaine levels in his flatus.
so how much power do you need to down load kiddee porn mr. CONVICTED PEDOPHILE?
Philip Murphy

Campbell, CA

#8 Jan 6, 2011
what PG&E isn't telling people is that they can get the same meter with no transmitter, I've had one for years on my ag well, it just uses a phone line.
Jim T Hole

Vina, CA

#9 Jan 6, 2011
You may hear a tapping on your window.

Clearlake, CA

#10 Jan 6, 2011
Sounds like you have a preoccupation with pedophiles. An area of particular interest perhaps?
Poster Number Sixteen

Newark, CA

#11 Jan 6, 2011
Gee a piece on which readers can comment at the Record Bee website! How novel...
Apparently Gauleiter Dickson has not seen this yet. Enjoy it while you can....

Valdosta, GA

#12 Jan 6, 2011
There is NO SCIENCE concerning the 'radiation' of Smartmeters. So, by beginning your commentary with bad 'science' you have negated your argument.
Philip Murphy

Campbell, CA

#13 Jan 6, 2011
Jim T Hole wrote:
You may hear a tapping on your window.
and you might hear me chamber a round-but after that...
Glenn Goodman

Lakeport, CA

#14 Jan 6, 2011
Monday night at 7:00PM, January 10th, Leslie Sheridan will be on my radio show, Hellbound Handbasket, on KPFZ 88.1 FM. You can call and ask questions about smart meters as well as wi-fi and cell phone transmissions.

I know some people are "wishing there is NO SCIENCE concerning 'radiation' of Smartmeters" but many scientists are concerned that these devices are a health time bomb, and unfortunately there is real scientific reason to be concerned, or at least open minded.

Please join Leslie and me for a discussion about this important issue.
Lowell Grant

United States

#15 Jan 6, 2011
We need a PULBIC Utilities Commission (PUC) that actually gives a rip about the PUBLIC, not just PG&E.

They have already given PG&E rate increases to inspect and upgrade their natural gas pipelines twice and both times the money was spent on other projects instead. Now PG&E wants a THRID rate increase to pay for, you guessed it, pipeline inspections and upgrades.

About 25 years ago they had a Time of Use meter available that allowed users to get lower rates for using power at off peak hours. Instead of running your dishwasher or clothes dryer in mid afternoon when there was great demand for power from air conditioners, if you waited until after dark your power cost about 1/2 what it did at 3 in the afternoon. Sadly, they only issued a set number of these meters and then they were no longer available...I'm glad I've got one on the main house on the ranch that I built in 1985 (I believe the program ended soon after) and will not give it up. You would think that now more than ever these meters would make great sense, but NO! Instead their new meters PUNISH the consumer.

Now back to the 3rd grade schoolyard of Topixs' final daze....
Assumptions presumptions

United States

#16 Jan 6, 2011
Several interesting notes on this commentary. Let's deal with facts for a moment. Facts, PG&E has a terrible record of performance on the accuracy of the smart meters, this by virtue of numerous complaints about increased monthly bills when the new meters are installed. Fact: PG&E is one of the only companies ever heard of that pleads with you not to use their product. Everything they have done in the past 10 years has been centered around, stopping you from using their product(electricity) ever heard of a company doing this? Odd you may say. But the fact of the matter is if you as usual follow the money you will see that PG&E doesn't want to build infrastructure to supply more electricity as of course that means rates will go down with the increased supply, and the massive amount of money they would have to spend to build that structure is something they don't want to take out of their bottom line, and cannot risk passing on to the consumer as the consumer is at the breaking point as it is. The smart meters are a furthering of that "don't use our product business model, in that they will indeed be able to eliminate meter readers from the payroll.

Kinda facts: There are two sides to the health debate on these meters, here for example is a brief overview of what they are not harmful:

smart meters operate well below the Federal Communications Commission’s adopted Maximum Permissible Exposure (MPE) limits for radio transmitters of all types, smart meters included. Plus, the smart meters are on the outside of your home. And each smart meter is only “on” for a minimal portion of the day – a maximum of 100 seconds total - to regularly communicate your energy consumption data.

Here is an expose on what they are harmful:
Some transmitting meters transmit at less frequent intervals, however, they still seem to be causing health problems. This could be due to the still elevated levels of radiowaves and microwaves in the neighborhood because of all the neighbors transmitters. Remember, many, many meters are transmitting at these intervals.(One person with a meter transmitting hourly reports waking at the time it transmits.)

Facts: Two things appear very clear; One the hype about health risks is a bit overblown. Two the motives for PG&E are not in the best interest of the consumer.

Kumba La La land of overzelous environmentalist can account for some of the hype as usual. Not being able to trust the FCC and PG&E accounts for other concerns. Overall it is less dangerous then the hype, but still in many ways not to be trusted as long term studies are sorely lacking. In the future the person writing the opinion piece should use far more intense details of SCIENTIFIC studies to further their cause, The sky is falling does not lend itself to credibility. Next PG&E should formulate a better argument to their claim of safety then just using FCC guidelines, who of course cannot be trusted.


#17 Jan 6, 2011
There is nothing smart about these meters.s

Berkeley, CA

#18 Jan 9, 2011

Berkeley, CA

#19 Jan 9, 2011
Just one more invisible radio wave...
How can that hurt ?
crazy loons

Mill Valley, CA

#20 Jan 9, 2011
why dont you all unplug your televisions, microwaves, toasters, computers and throw those cell phones away, smart meters are used everywhere, this just gives you wacky woodstock dopesmoking braindead hippies something to bitch about. why cant you continue with your global warming nonsense. oh wait. ITS FRICKIN FREAZING OUTSIDE AND AL GORE IS LONG GONE!

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