Houses passes pipeline safety bill

Houses passes pipeline safety bill

There are 25 comments on the York Dispatch story from Dec 12, 2011, titled Houses passes pipeline safety bill. In it, York Dispatch reports that:

The House passed a bill Monday that doubles the maximum fine for pipeline safety violations, but ignores several key recommendations arising from investigations of deadly natural gas explosions and high-profile oil spills over the past two years.

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“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#23 Dec 15, 2011
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>Then there is Canada with their new "saftey" regulations:
The plan will shift jurisdiction of 23,500 kilometres of gas pipelines away from its Alberta regulatory body into the hands of the National Energy Board (NEB).
Energy giant TransCanada Pipelines Limited (TCPL), which is extending its Nova gas transmission system beyond Alberta’s borders, has applied to the NEB for the change. The move would affect thousands of farmers.
Jim Ness, president of the Alberta Association of Pipeline Landowners (AAPL), says that under the Ottawa-based rules that are being called for, the existing provision guaranteeing that a farmer can recover legal costs if he gets into a dispute with a pipeline company will be eliminated.
“That was covered under provincial law but not under federal law,” says Ness.“We’re upset that the Alberta government did not defend that issue publicly to the [NEB] board.”
In addition, farmers would lose eligibility to receive ongoing annual payments in certain situations and would have to ask permission to drive farm equipment across easements and over pipelines that are buried on their own land, something that would pose a big problem for farmers, says Ness.
“It would divide our fields in a real nuisance manner if the farmer had to take special precautions to cross the pipes. To use an oil-patch term, it’s a giant adverse effect to have that regulation there.”
The way farmers will be dealt with if they violate regulations will also change, with the maximum penalty of a $5,000 fine jumping as high as $1 million, plus a five-year prison term.
Farmers will also need permission to cultivate deeper that 11.8 inches, despite the fact that “throughout Alberta there are soils that require deep ripping,” says Ness. Under current provincial regulations, farmers may dig as deep as 18 inches.
“A lot of the pipelines are so shallow that the companies are afraid the pipes will get torn up,” says Ness, a farmer/rancher and a licensed land agent who does consulting for landowners.
Bob McManus, spokesperson for the Alberta Department of Energy, says that while assumptions can’t be made about how the NEB will rule, TCPL in the past has not required the kind of notification for crossing pipelines or the cultivation depth restrictions that the farmers fear.
I cannot believe that they are not required to put these necessary but dangerous pipes below the frost line.

What is it out there in beautiful Alberta, 6 to 8 feet?
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#24 Dec 15, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
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I cannot believe that they are not required to put these necessary but dangerous pipes below the frost line.
What is it out there in beautiful Alberta, 6 to 8 feet?
What is out there?
If I were an engineer it would be that pipeline 6 to 8 feet denpending, ABOVE ground.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#25 Dec 15, 2011
DEPENDING....

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#26 Dec 15, 2011
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text> What is out there?
If I were an engineer it would be that pipeline 6 to 8 feet denpending, ABOVE ground.
Then you would be an engineer who never heard of bullet holes.

You would be fired, and go back to sweeping motel parking lots for cigarette butts.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#27 Dec 15, 2011
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Then you would be an engineer who never heard of bullet holes.
You would be fired, and go back to sweeping motel parking lots for cigarette butts.
No, I would be the engineer who didn't order crap from China and put a reasonable amount of distance between the pipeline and hunters.
Happy sweeping.

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