Mobile home park gas lines: If inspec...

Mobile home park gas lines: If inspected, by who?

There are 13 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Jan 1, 2011, titled Mobile home park gas lines: If inspected, by who?. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

Terri Pohrman of American Canyon said PG&E has not been keeping up its gas pipeline inspections in the mobile home park where she lives, and she worries about it every day.

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Please

Vallejo, CA

#1 Jan 1, 2011
I think that this woman is just looking to create problems and waiting for her big payout.
SammySophie Grandma

Oakland, CA

#2 Jan 1, 2011
Please wrote:
I think that this woman is just looking to create problems and waiting for her big payout.
Maybe she is educated and well informed and watched what happened in a relatively affluent area and figures unless she speaks out she does not have much of a chance in her area. If you wait for a "big payout" in this situation it will be maybe your surviving relatives but no "payout" is worth being blown to bits. I applaude her because mobile home parks occupy many people in a smaller area than typical neighborhoods with "stick built" homes and her actions may be saving many from a tragedy that need not to happen. Mobile homes have many gas appliances generally from water heaters,furnaces, and stoves. Usually the electrical loads do not allow for these appliances to be electric. Thumbs down to you for not recognizing her concerns as a valid concern and just an opportunistic one. I feel like a movie critic with my "thumbs down comment" but I just hope you can see she has some valid concerns. I do believe as the article stated that being aware of the odor that they put into gas and responding to it and not ignoring it is the front line of defense. We can all only hope that we are NOT sitting on top of aged pipe lines that are ready to blow-being barbequed alived is not on my list of New Years Resolutions.

“Learn From Your Mistakes!”

Since: Oct 09

Vallejo

#3 Jan 1, 2011
Rubin Garcia is verbally dancing. He either doesn't know or isn't saying. In other words, he had no idea whatsoever, and is just thinking fast on his feet.

Ditto for the "unnamed" woman, who also is unsure of when, or by whom, her facility was inspected. Because it hasn't been, that's why.

Lairs, both.
Anon

Santa Rosa, CA

#4 Jan 1, 2011
As I used to work at PG&E, here's the rules regarding mobile home parks

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/GAS_RULES_...

These are the rules approved by the CPUC which PG&E must operate under.

PG&E may not have authority to inspect the lines in the park.
Which one is it

Vallejo, CA

#5 Jan 1, 2011
Clarke Johnston wrote:
Rubin Garcia is verbally dancing. He either doesn't know or isn't saying. In other words, he had no idea whatsoever, and is just thinking fast on his feet.
Ditto for the "unnamed" woman, who also is unsure of when, or by whom, her facility was inspected. Because it hasn't been, that's why.
Lairs, both.
Lairs or Liars?

“Learn From Your Mistakes!”

Since: Oct 09

Vallejo

#6 Jan 1, 2011
Which one is it wrote:
<quoted text>
Lairs or Liars?
Gack. You are correct.
gun metal blue

Vallejo, CA

#7 Jan 1, 2011
SammySophie Grandma wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe she is educated and well informed and watched what happened in a relatively affluent area and figures unless she speaks out she does not have much of a chance in her area. If you wait for a "big payout" in this situation it will be maybe your surviving relatives but no "payout" is worth being blown to bits. I applaude her because mobile home parks occupy many people in a smaller area than typical neighborhoods with "stick built" homes and her actions may be saving many from a tragedy that need not to happen. Mobile homes have many gas appliances generally from water heaters,furnaces, and stoves. Usually the electrical loads do not allow for these appliances to be electric. Thumbs down to you for not recognizing her concerns as a valid concern and just an opportunistic one. I feel like a movie critic with my "thumbs down comment" but I just hope you can see she has some valid concerns. I do believe as the article stated that being aware of the odor that they put into gas and responding to it and not ignoring it is the front line of defense. We can all only hope that we are NOT sitting on top of aged pipe lines that are ready to blow-being barbequed alived is not on my list of New Years Resolutions.
being concerned and being parinoid/the sky is falling are different things. does she worry about the last time the gas pump where she fills her car has been tested? the explosion was NOT MOBILE PARK RELATED! in most cases, managers of trailer parks are hired to manage them and insuring inspections etc other then grounds maintaience is the owners of the parks responsibility. it is also a county, city responsibility to insure the park is in compliance with all local, county and sate laws. moble home owner has the responsibility from where connections are made to the park utilities to all of their home. when was the last time she had her home inspected to insure it met all requirments and had no leaks to insure safety to her neighbors? do her steps and porch meet state requirements for step height and width? can she provide certification that she does comply will all requirements?
SammySophie Grandma

United States

#8 Jan 1, 2011
gun metal blue wrote:
<quoted text>being concerned and being parinoid/the sky is falling are different things. does she worry about the last time the gas pump where she fills her car has been tested? the explosion was NOT MOBILE PARK RELATED! in most cases, managers of trailer parks are hired to manage them and insuring inspections etc other then grounds maintaience is the owners of the parks responsibility. it is also a county, city responsibility to insure the park is in compliance with all local, county and sate laws. moble home owner has the responsibility from where connections are made to the park utilities to all of their home. when was the last time she had her home inspected to insure it met all requirments and had no leaks to insure safety to her neighbors? do her steps and porch meet state requirements for step height and width? can she provide certification that she does comply will all requirements?
Did you miss the point I was making or what? Try re-reading what I wrote and then look at your response...if you still see do not see any problem then I cannot help you but Vallejo Adult School may have a program for you.
SammySophie Grandma

United States

#9 Jan 1, 2011
Or better yet Gun Metal-did you fully read the article?
Valleyjoe

Fresno, CA

#10 Jan 1, 2011
Does anyone know if major gas lines run under 201 Maine St.?
jimr

San Clemente, CA

#11 Jan 2, 2011
So much misinformation here!

Gas pipes on behind meters on private property are not inspected by the utilities like PG&E. They don't own these lines.

If you live in a multi-tenant property, look for the meter. What is in front of it belongs to PG&E or whatever utility is supplying gas. What is behind it belongs to you, or to the mobile home park. The utility has no obligation or liability for what is behind your meter.

If you are worried about the condition of your gas lines, call a competent plumber. Don't even for a moment think that what you're dealing with (residential gas at service pressure) resembles what happened at San Bruno. Residential gas can certainly be dangerous to you and even destroy your house, but unless you are comatose, you'll smell it first.
A Blessing in Disguise

Vallejo, CA

#12 Jan 2, 2011
Valleyjoe wrote:
Does anyone know if major gas lines run under 201 Maine St.?
God, I hope so.
SammySophie Grandma

United States

#13 Jan 2, 2011
jimr wrote:
So much misinformation here!
Gas pipes on behind meters on private property are not inspected by the utilities like PG&E. They don't own these lines.
If you live in a multi-tenant property, look for the meter. What is in front of it belongs to PG&E or whatever utility is supplying gas. What is behind it belongs to you, or to the mobile home park. The utility has no obligation or liability for what is behind your meter.
If you are worried about the condition of your gas lines, call a competent plumber. Don't even for a moment think that what you're dealing with (residential gas at service pressure) resembles what happened at San Bruno. Residential gas can certainly be dangerous to you and even destroy your house, but unless you are comatose, you'll smell it first.
Thank you. It seems as if you are well informed. Do you think a San Bruno situation is going to happen again or has PGE learned something? I have always worried about gas lines and earthquakes.

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