McCain and Obama tangle over Iraq pullout

Feb 27, 2008 | Posted by: Iria | Full story: news.yahoo.com

Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama faced off on Wednesday in a possible prelude to a U.S. presidential election battle, tangling over whether Iraq would be prey for al Qaeda if U.S. troops are withdrawn.
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None of the 3 liberal candidates will pull out of Iraq in the next 2 years despite what they are saying.
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Feb 27, 2008
 
mccain still trying to figure out why we left vietnam , not that he really saw action , being a guest in the hanoy hilton,, not that that was good , but it does not make him presidential , or smart , after all would you not want someone who was not captured to lead you ????
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Feb 27, 2008
 
the US would be bombarderd by muslim terrorists if obama hussein becomes presidint and surrenders in the war on terror!!!

he is so inexperienced he has not even perfected his LIE techniques yet - ala hillary!!!

his lies and his socialist-muslim sympathy leanings are too obvious!!!

barack hussein obama is his name - it is a fact!
his racist church gave racist farrakan their livetime achievement award!
it was given to farrakan by obama's daughter!
he has chicago connections with muslim terrorist money donors!

Mccain knows the SURGE is working - and following this war on terror 'til the end is the BEST way to secure America!!!

To protect our kids and our families - VOTE MCCAIN!!!
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Feb 27, 2008
 
for more and obama and mccain and the race that could be...please link below...

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/02/is-early-vot...

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Feb 27, 2008
 
Schmitty wrote:
the US would be bombarderd by muslim terrorists if obama hussein becomes presidint and surrenders in the war on terror!!!
he is so inexperienced he has not even perfected his LIE techniques yet - ala hillary!!!
his lies and his socialist-muslim sympathy leanings are too obvious!!!
barack hussein obama is his name - it is a fact!
his racist church gave racist farrakan their livetime achievement award!
it was given to farrakan by obama's daughter!
he has chicago connections with muslim terrorist money donors!
Mccain knows the SURGE is working - and following this war on terror 'til the end is the BEST way to secure America!!!
To protect our kids and our families - VOTE MCCAIN!!!
Hello again, Schmitty. I see you didn't flush.
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Feb 27, 2008
 
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What does this even matter and why in the heck do you keep posting it everywhere?
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Hi B-
It matters very much...I watched the debate too and I didn't catch this point until bloggers on these sites posted their remarks. Then, I researched to confirm the facts. NO ONE IN THE US MEDIA CAUGHT THIS-OR PERHAPS THEY DID AND CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ABOUT IT...I was VERY disappointed with response Senator Barack Obama gave when asked what was his biggest mistake while in office. He was being VERY disengenious and/or lying.He said his biggest mistake was voting with a UNANIMOUS Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri was the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
Yes Sen. Obama-was technically correct-the Senate vote was unanimous BECAUSE ONLY THREE SENATORS WERE THERE TO VOTE (Bill Frist (R-TN), Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Mel Martinez (R-FL).The remaining 97 Senators were not present. SEN OBAMA - AND THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS APPROVED THIS-WHILE THE REST OF THE SENATE (97 US SENATORS)WERE OUT OF TOWN??? HE WAS OK WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? As a US citizen, I am very uncomfortable with this...
How many times has he ridiculed Sen. Clinton about 'doing things behind closed doors?
IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL BE IF HE WINS NOMINATION AND BECOMES PRESIDENT???WILL HE CONTINUE TO CLOAK HIS ANSWERS LIKE THIS AND APPROVE LEGISLATION IN A SIMILIAR MANNER-WHILE IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS AND ELECTED US OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF TOWN???-IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.HE REPRESENTS THE "SAME OLD SAME OLD". So much for CHANGE IN GOV'T...
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The bill passed unanimously and no formal record of the vote was made. This still is the United States of AMerica, isn't it...

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Feb 27, 2008
 
Schmitty wrote:
the US would be bombarderd by muslim terrorists if obama hussein becomes presidint and surrenders in the war on terror!!!
he is so inexperienced he has not even perfected his LIE techniques yet - ala hillary!!!
his lies and his socialist-muslim sympathy leanings are too obvious!!!
barack hussein obama is his name - it is a fact!
his racist church gave racist farrakan their livetime achievement award!
it was given to farrakan by obama's daughter!
he has chicago connections with muslim terrorist money donors!
Mccain knows the SURGE is working - and following this war on terror 'til the end is the BEST way to secure America!!!
To protect our kids and our families - VOTE MCCAIN!!!
You, my friend, are an idiot.

Yes, let's stay in Iraq so our debt continues increasing at 1.55 billion dollars per day. Guess who was responsible for quadrupling our national debt? Reagan. The most conservative president yet. I don't know how Republicans still have any credibility in anyone's eyes anymore. Stay in Itaq for 100 years? Bomb Iran? To what end? World Domination? Sounds a lot like what Hitler tried to achieve. Except this time it won't be the Aryans, it'll be the Americans. America seriously needs to stop this violent imperialist globocob belligerence. All it's doing is getting people killed.

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john wrote:
mccain still trying to figure out why we left vietnam , not that he really saw action , being a guest in the hanoy hilton,, not that that was good , but it does not make him presidential , or smart , after all would you not want someone who was not captured to lead you ????
As a Harvard Grad Class of 82, I would rather have someone as President who had been somewhre else. After seeing what Obama has to offer, I am not sure he could make the decisions that are needed for this country to survive. Listen to this guy, he says a lot but says nothing. He is elling you air. He believes in the theory that a sucker is born every second and he is waiting to take them. Listen and you might see through his words, or worse yet regret your in attention next year when you have allof those tax increases and a governmnet run like Jimmy Carter Administration. Sleep tight until 1/20/09 and then wake up to the real reality of what is happening to you. You will have 4 years to rue your mesmerization by this guy.
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Feb 27, 2008
 
JCD wrote:
None of the 3 liberal candidates will pull out of Iraq in the next 2 years despite what they are saying.
Hey, stop lying. You're like totally wrong. It's not what Obama said and he promised to change things. Just wait, I have hope. Obama will unite us and save the world. Yes we can!
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My family and friends and many of my colleagues strongly support Sen. Clinton as president. We support the good/bad/ugly parts of her. Yes she has a "history"-good god her private life has been on display for the world to disect-however she has handled herself with grace and honor. You can tell a lot about a person by how
they handle defeat and how they rise back up. What wonderful strength of character she has...My family feels as if we 'know' Hillary and we trust her good judgement. I have closely followed her successes and defeats in the legislature. Would I ever go out and have a beer with her-I think not. I am not voting for a 'pal' or a 'motivational coach' or a spiritual advisor. I am voting for president of the USA. And I take that responsibility VERY seriously.
I have nothing against Sen.Obama's character-my problem is that I know VERY LITTLE ABOUT HIM.
AS time goes on and I try to learn more about him since he is running for office, I am very uncomfortable with the things I am learning . And what bothers me the most is that our US media is not asking him the right questions that voters are curious about. Plus every 30 minutes the media is issuing new stories about how great Obama is and how its no race and how he has Texas sewn Up. They are writing articles about what Hillary should do next-since she willmost definetely lose the election. They are comparing who is stronger-Obama or McCain. SEN.CLINTON HAS BEEN COMPLETELY LEFT OUT OF THE DISCUSSION...How stupid does the media think that the American people are? I get most of my news now from international sources. I couldnt care less about what toothpaste he uses nor do I want someone to read off his resume to me. Its as if a cloak has been placed around him and NO ONE can ask him any questions. Its as if he has a gag order-no talking about anything unless you are giving a speech.He talks but there is no new information coming out of his mouth...Do I like him- YES. However I do not know him. AS a result, I can't/won't support him-definetely not for president of the US anyway. I have voted for people that I did not necessarily like -personally- but I trusted their judgement and the fact that they were suited for the position. I do not feel Sen. Obama is quite ready yet to be president... check out this excellent article about Sen.Clinton. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/batt...

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athy wrote:
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What does this even matter and why in the heck do you keep posting it everywhere?
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Hi B-
It matters very much...I watched the debate too and I didn't catch this point until bloggers on these sites posted their remarks. Then, I researched to confirm the facts. NO ONE IN THE US MEDIA CAUGHT THIS-OR PERHAPS THEY DID AND CHOSE NOT TO WRITE ABOUT IT...I was VERY disappointed with response Senator Barack Obama gave when asked what was his biggest mistake while in office. He was being VERY disengenious and/or lying.He said his biggest mistake was voting with a UNANIMOUS Senate to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri was the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.
Yes Sen. Obama-was technically correct-the Senate vote was unanimous BECAUSE ONLY THREE SENATORS WERE THERE TO VOTE (Bill Frist (R-TN), Rick Santorum (R-PA), and Mel Martinez (R-FL).The remaining 97 Senators were not present. SEN OBAMA - AND THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS APPROVED THIS-WHILE THE REST OF THE SENATE (97 US SENATORS)WERE OUT OF TOWN??? HE WAS OK WITH DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS??? As a US citizen, I am very uncomfortable with this...
How many times has he ridiculed Sen. Clinton about 'doing things behind closed doors?
IS THIS THE WAY IT WILL BE IF HE WINS NOMINATION AND BECOMES PRESIDENT???WILL HE CONTINUE TO CLOAK HIS ANSWERS LIKE THIS AND APPROVE LEGISLATION IN A SIMILIAR MANNER-WHILE IMPORTANT DECISION MAKERS AND ELECTED US OFFICIALS ARE OUT OF TOWN???-IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED.HE REPRESENTS THE "SAME OLD SAME OLD". So much for CHANGE IN GOV'T...
P.S.
The bill passed unanimously and no formal record of the vote was made. This still is the United States of AMerica, isn't it...
Yeah home of the free and brave and where people can lie indiscriminately about mistaken b*llshit. Obama never said he voted he said if he had something to do over he would have stopped the vote - like fillibuster maybe? Maybe you people who say you watched the debates should have with your head someplace besides up your ass. If you don't have anything to offer but lies - please spare us. Think you would be more concerned with those who voted yes on this than those who voted no. But maybe not that would be an issue that was real wouldn't it? Have a great day.

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Wake up USA wrote:
<quoted text>As a Harvard Grad Class of 82, I would rather have someone as President who had been somewhre else. After seeing what Obama has to offer, I am not sure he could make the decisions that are needed for this country to survive. Listen to this guy, he says a lot but says nothing. He is elling you air. He believes in the theory that a sucker is born every second and he is waiting to take them. Listen and you might see through his words, or worse yet regret your in attention next year when you have allof those tax increases and a governmnet run like Jimmy Carter Administration. Sleep tight until 1/20/09 and then wake up to the real reality of what is happening to you. You will have 4 years to rue your mesmerization by this guy.
So you support voting for Clinton or 4 more years of failed policies by the republicans?
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Feb 28, 2008
 
Obama still likes to portray to the voters that he somehow voted against us going into Iraq.

If he is as big on change as he preaches then he should be preaching term limits and not taking support from the "old guard". A man of change wants to change what is wrong and we all know it is the people who are in Washington so why isn't he preaching that? Sounds like he is just like every other politician already in Washington.

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Billy C wrote:
Obama still likes to portray to the voters that he somehow voted against us going into Iraq.
If he is as big on change as he preaches then he should be preaching term limits and not taking support from the "old guard". A man of change wants to change what is wrong and we all know it is the people who are in Washington so why isn't he preaching that? Sounds like he is just like every other politician already in Washington.
He is preaching exactly that. Where have you been? But we won't get anywhere trying to get rid of ALL the people in Washington, only some of them. If that is what you want, Obama should be your choice.
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Feb 28, 2008
 
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
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He is preaching exactly that. Where have you been? But we won't get anywhere trying to get rid of ALL the people in Washington, only some of them. If that is what you want, Obama should be your choice.
Only getting rid of those who don't blindly support you is nothing new, what country have you been living in? That is what they always do. Maybe he should practice what he keeps saying and tell everyone to elect new people or is it only good in his case and we shouldn't do that everywhere else.

Change isn't just for the job of president, unless you are under the impression that the position of president has some magical power and only they can produce change in America.

But I don't see any candidate really wanting change, thus is the nature of politics. You support me and I will support you later is what they do and Obama isn’t any different. IMO that is why he isn’t really preaching change or it would be change accross the board.

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Billy C wrote:
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Only getting rid of those who don't blindly support you is nothing new, what country have you been living in? That is what they always do. Maybe he should practice what he keeps saying and tell everyone to elect new people or is it only good in his case and we shouldn't do that everywhere else.
Change isn't just for the job of president, unless you are under the impression that the position of president has some magical power and only they can produce change in America.
But I don't see any candidate really wanting change, thus is the nature of politics. You support me and I will support you later is what they do and Obama isn’t any different. IMO that is why he isn’t really preaching change or it would be change accross the board.
Certainly you have a right to your point of view. I think a president can do much to bring about change, if only by inspiring people, especially younger people, to work for those changes. Of course, people may differ as to what kind of change they want. It then becomes a matter of choosing which candidate best expresses your wishes, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best. Considering the current state of affairs, I think the only way to go is up.

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So you support voting for Clinton or 4 more years of failed policies by the republicans?
As a Republican if a Democrats has to get in, I would rather see Hillary there than this jive talker. Listen very carefuly and he says a lot of nothing. He is just a Rapper that you can understand but makes no point or has any sunstance to what he says. Stop, Look and Listen before you vote for this train wreck.
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Many of my friends had wanted to consider voting for Sen Obama but the media is not doing its job in following up with him about many questions that they (and I ) and other voters have on the following:



-Times UK investigation 2/26/08 article –did British Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi really lend millions of $ to Barack Obama’s fundraiser weeks before Mansion land deal in Chicago?-



-What is the true relationship (if any exists) between Mr Auchi, Mr. Rezko and Sen. Obama?



-How much $ does Sen. Obama receive from various industry sectors –not lobbyists? How does HE define a Lobbyist?

--How much does he receive from in-house lobbyists who work solely for one company, union,trade association, or other group? I understand that these people may lobby but their contributions are grouped in the totals (acc to a recent article posted in CJR)for the various industries they represent, along with contributions from other employees in the sector, their relatives, whatever PAC money has been raised, and donations from trade and professional associations.

-On what basis did the politically controversial former advisor to former president Jimmy Carter Zbigniew Brzezinski endorse Sen. Obama last summer, for president?

-Some claim that it was Brezinski’s misguided actions (during the 1960’s and ‘70’s in Afghanistan/Soviet Union conflict) that led to the present day military strength buildup of Osama Bin Ladin’s –including others- terrorist groups. Any comments from Sen. Obama about this?

-On what basis did Sen. Obama select Brzezinski to serve as a foreign policy advisor for him?

-During this weeks’ debate-Sen. Obama brought up his Terri Schiavo experience as one in which he regrets supporting the unanimously-arrived at decision of the Senate. How does he feel about the way in which the decision was arrived at (Voice votes because 97 Senators were out of town and only 3 were on the floor during the vote)

-What does Se. Obama think about the fact that the law which was "unanimously" approved by Voice Vote was a violation of the separation of powers. Many historians and constitutional lawyers argued that Congress had exceeded its powers by substituting its judgment for that of the courts and directing the courts . Judge Stanley Francis Birch Agreed.



-Who decided that there would be no formal record of this vote and what does Sen. Obama think about this? Does he view it as going against his position of supporting transparency and accountability in government? Why or why not?



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Lawrence Wolf wrote:
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Certainly you have a right to your point of view. I think a president can do much to bring about change, if only by inspiring people, especially younger people, to work for those changes. Of course, people may differ as to what kind of change they want. It then becomes a matter of choosing which candidate best expresses your wishes, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best. Considering the current state of affairs, I think the only way to go is up.
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
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Certainly you have a right to your point of view. I think a president can do much to bring about change, if only by inspiring people, especially younger people, to work for those changes. Of course, people may differ as to what kind of change they want. It then becomes a matter of choosing which candidate best expresses your wishes, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best. Considering the current state of affairs, I think the only way to go is up.
I agree it never hurts to disagree with people on topics. The only way you can learn anything is by questioning those with different points of view. I just haven't seen anyone yet that I trust with my vote and politicians don't inspire me any. I just wish these candidates put as much effort into their own states (not to mention all of that wasted campaign money). I think they all need to take some basic accounting classes because it's obvious they have no idea what to do with money.
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what hillary was having a lap dance with obama while mc pain watched ?

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