Flying Biz Class with Infant
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#1 Jan 26, 2009
Never posted before, but just wanted to get a few opinions on my latest trip, when flying NWA Business Class with my infant sone from Detroit to London.
My wife, my 16 month old son and myself were flying to the UK for Christmas. I PAID for 3 seats, including a seat for my son (not flying as a lap passenger).
It's not the first time he has flown, but the first "long haul" flight.
For international trips we always try to fly Biz Class, solely for the added comfort and convenience.
My son did very well, and only really cried on 2 occasions - once for about 20 minutes when he wanted to be changed and fed. The other time was about 90 minutes before we landed, when he woke up because the lights in the cabin came on for a few minutes (not sure why).
The flight crew and staff were very helpful, and treated everyone with respect. Sadly, the same could not be said of the "bitter elderly couple" who sat behind my wife and son (my wife and son were in the first Biz Class row).
About 3 hours into the flight, my son first started to cry (not scream, just cry). As it was a night flight, it was about the time the rest of us were trying to get a little sleep. I could see the older couple behind my wife were a little aggravated so, out of decency, I turned to them and apologized for him crying (although I didn't really feel I was obligated to do so). To my surpise, they basically replied something along the lines of "how rude you are to bring a baby into Business Class and disrupt our journey". That was when things got a little heated, and I explained to them that he was a paying passenger in his seat, and that I considered it more appropraite to fly in a smaller cabin, with more room than a larger, more crowded Econmony cabin - if he did start crying and get fussy - it would impact a smaller number of people in Biz Class. Well, as you can imagine, that comment didn't go down to well, becasue clearly this couple thought that their Biz Class seats should insure that they aren't disturbed, and economy passenger somehow deserve to be disturbed for choosing to fly economy class.
Is it typical to encounter such behaviour from passenegrs? Any thoughts on this?
If an airline had a policy not to allow infants to fly, then I could understand this couple being aggravted - but there is no such airline policy, and (as I mentioned) we paid for his seat, in an effort to minimize any issues of flying with an infant.
Why didn't we fly coach? As a guy who is 6'6" tall and 250 lbs - an econmy cabin seat really isn't conducive to any kind of comfort, especially when having to possibly attend to an infant. Also, we're lucky enough to be able to afford to fly Biz, so why shouldn't we? Also, why would we put ourselves in a situation that could potentially disturb a larger number of people? I saw this as the lesser of 2 evils... am I wrong?
Saint Paul, MN
#2 Jan 27, 2009
Because people feel they are entitled, and they probably didn't even pay for those seats, they probably had enough miles to get up there. You paid for your seats and if they don't like it too bad..I'am sooooooo sick of people thinking they are entitiled to EVERYTHING
#3 Jan 27, 2009
I can remember a trip with my young daughter. She was happily playing and a woman had a problem with that! She kept turning around making disgust sounds.
I tried to be accommodating to this witch and all it did was upset my daughter who now became a crying child not a happy playful child. UGH...
Then another woman seeing what was happening told me to ask the grouch how many kids she had...LOL.
I realized out of many people in our vicinity the witch was the only one bothered so I decided to not care. You can't please everybody so screw them!
#4 Nov 15, 2010
I'm so sick and tired of old and grouch people.
They want to be respected, but have no respect whatsoever for anyone else.
They act like they govern earth.
I also had a bad experience on a flight from Portland to Cincinnati.
My then 16 months old daughter, who had woken up at 3:30 in the morning to get a 6ish AM flight,
was a little anxious when the flight was boarding and gave the seat in front of her 3 or 4 kicks.
I am not exaggerating, it was really 3 or 4 kicks and coming from an 18 lbs baby.
The seat in front of us had a lady of almost 40 or early 40 years old; On her left (middle) was her mother and on the very left (isle seat) was her dad. Both were probably in their 60s.
So the gentleman (if I may call him that), which was not the person who had his seat kicked by a
16 months old baby of 18 lbs, turned his back and yelled in really upset tom:
* He's kicking the seat!
Then I said:
* I know.
Then the old grouch said:
* Make him stop!
Then my husband said:
*What do you want me to do? Have a talk with her?
And the whole flight was very aggravating, because my poor baby who by the way, slept for good 2 hours,
kept calling them and saying hi, and they would ignore her completely. The mom in the middle even put ear plugs to avoid hearing my daughter's voice.
Going forward, my respect and sensibility for others will end, when whoever (young or old) loses theirs.
#5 Apr 23, 2012
I too am planning an overseas trip with my son come fall when he will be turning two. We will be meeting my husband so my dilemma will be traveling solo with infant & paying through the the nose for biz class or paying for seat in coach. I have flown biz class once and you certainly get more privacy but that 4 years ago. Anyone have recent experience? Husband wants to keep price down if possible, but we want to keep baby & mommy happy. Thoughts? Suggestions from fellow transatlantic travelers? He can still travel as a lap child but depending on return time may turn 2 overseas.
#6 Jul 19, 2012
If one pays that much money to fly business class they expect not to have to deal with a crying child. That is like going to a 5 star restaurant and having to listen to a child through out the entire meal. Some places are just not meant for children and parents should understand that. I would of been as unhappy as the couple behind you. Main cabin is much more unruley and it would of gone over much better back there. Parents need to understand not everyone loves their darling child like they do.
#7 Sep 15, 2012
If there is no explicit rule (or policy) prohibiting babies in biz or first class cabin, then implicitly, the airline is expecting to deal with babies in their premium cabins.
#8 Sep 16, 2012
Are you saying the airlines are complicit in the illicit solicitation of overexplicit children? Maybe it's to elicit more revenue and thereby avoid a deficit.
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