Northwest Opening Flight Attendant Jobs

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kay

Anchorage, AK

#1 Nov 16, 2006
dont they know the flt attendants plan to strike!
JOAs Observer

Chaska, MN

#2 Nov 16, 2006
kay wrote:
dont they know the flt attendants plan to strike!
It's the first question they're asked. If they get it wrong, they don't get the job.
Just An Observer

Oscoda, MI

#3 Nov 17, 2006
JOAs Observer wrote:
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It's the first question they're asked. If they get it wrong, they don't get the job.
Does NWA actually think they're going to tell the truth? Boy, are they gullible!
Nadine Fletemier

Fraser, MI

#4 Dec 19, 2006
I am a 46 yr old grandmother of 6. I have been selling New and used cars for seven years. I am looking to change my career, and become an Air Line Flight Attendant. I am very good with people and have an understanding of how all people like to be treated, especally when they are spending money. Working at a Car Dealership I was the only woman for the last 3 yrs of my employment. I am a team player and will be willing to work extra hours for the company.
Bill

United States

#5 Dec 19, 2006
Nadine Fletemier wrote:
I am a 46 yr old grandmother of 6. I have been selling New and used cars for seven years. I am looking to change my career, and become an Air Line Flight Attendant. I am very good with people and have an understanding of how all people like to be treated, especally when they are spending money. Working at a Car Dealership I was the only woman for the last 3 yrs of my employment. I am a team player and will be willing to work extra hours for the company.
Got one tricked!
airlineL

United States

#6 Dec 19, 2006
Nadine Fletemier wrote:
I am a 46 yr old grandmother of 6. I have been selling New and used cars for seven years. I am looking to change my career, and become an Air Line Flight Attendant. I am very good with people and have an understanding of how all people like to be treated, especally when they are spending money. Working at a Car Dealership I was the only woman for the last 3 yrs of my employment. I am a team player and will be willing to work extra hours for the company.
"Nadine", if that's your real name, I suggest you begin reading the NWA flight attendants discussion board via

http://www.nwaflightattendants.com

to get a feel for the things that concern professional cain crew members. Keep in mind that if you are hired, you'll have to spend a couple of months in training at no pay, then relocate to some city no one can afford to live in and there share an apartment with 10 other people when there are only 4 beds between you. In addition to that, you will get to figure out how to get to at least 3 airports locally using modes of transportation with which you are entirely unfamiliar for sign ins that will tend to be in the 0500-0600 neighborhood.

If the cabin crews of NWA strike, and you go to work and cross their picket lines, you will be universally despised by your co-workers and universally loved by your managers. Don't forget that should you keep the job after the strike is over, you are likely to one day need the help of your colleagues for one thing or another. You will not only not get the help you need, you will court disciplinary action from the company every time you go to work, because your colleagues will be looking for you to do something, anything, incorrectly and will happily turn you in for it. If you can live with that kind of scrutiny, by all means, apply.
capt avgas

Memphis, TN

#7 Dec 19, 2006
Nadine,
As a captain for this airline, I strongly recommend you stick with your current job. You have no idea what this place is like to work for. They will lie to you at every opportunity, and use the courts to screw you in every way possible. They are recruiting FAs because of a possible strike and we all know it. BTW,$17.50 is half of what they earn now and they took a 40% pay cut. As a captain, I not only fly the crap we have but I am also a social worker/consoler and I know what they are doing to people. Just look up jobvent.com and exnwa.com and read what employees have to say.
Prospective Passenger

AOL

#8 Dec 19, 2006
Hey Nadine,

I would suggest Republic Airlines. They are far more stable then Northwest, and like all airlines they do have their problems, but they are no where near as severe as NWA.
Old NWA Guy

Columbus, GA

#9 Dec 19, 2006
capt avgas wrote:
Nadine,
As a captain for this airline, I strongly recommend you stick with your current job. You have no idea what this place is like to work for. They will lie to you at every opportunity, and use the courts to screw you in every way possible. They are recruiting FAs because of a possible strike and we all know it. BTW,$17.50 is half of what they earn now and they took a 40% pay cut. As a captain, I not only fly the crap we have but I am also a social worker/consoler and I know what they are doing to people. Just look up jobvent.com and exnwa.com and read what employees have to say.
The flight attendants took a 21% PAY cut. Maybe a 40% cut including benefits but not a 40% paycut!!!
Prospective Passenger

AOL

#10 Dec 19, 2006
21% of 37,000 dollars

a year is still a whole lot when you compare that to another unnamed groups salaries

40% of 210,000 dollars a year of that group is alot too, however comparing that to the F/A's salary is similiar to comparing apples to oranges.

In other words compare it to the point that my kid goes without braces this year so I can get to work in a reliable used car, while your kid goes to the orthodontist in braces this year in the 1 year old car you are tired of driving as you have decided to buy another one new this year you old coot.....I mean NWA GUY
Prospective Passenger

AOL

#11 Dec 19, 2006
Oh by the way 37,000 was for a seasoned attendant not a newby under 18,000 a year beginning attendant.
airlineL

United States

#12 Dec 19, 2006
Nadine,

It may be worth weighing the following job conditions of the cabin crewmember:

Every time you are sick and cannot work, you will have to produce a doctor's note or you will be fired;

You will be required to carry your own food and water for 3 days at a time, because you will not be allowed time to purchase those things during your 12-14 hours long duty days for which you are paid a maximium of 8 hrs;

You will be required to be on call, available 24 hrs a day (except for 10 days a month that your employer will chose for you) for your base pay, which will be about $15,000 a year before taxes;

Out of that $15,000 you will be expected to pay for your own uniforms;

You will get health care coverage (minimally, with you paying the lion's share of all costs) pass priviledges (but you won't be able to use them because the flights are full except to ride the JumpSeat) and no pension.

You will be required to belong to the union and you will have to pay dues to that union, even though you don't want to join it;

You will be required to render aide to those who are obviously sick even though you do not have a health care professional background and even when you may pass that illness on to your family;

You will be required to handle the detrious of every slob on the planet;

You will be ridiculed, undercut, sabotaged and framed.

Good luck to you.
NWAFA

AOL

#13 Dec 19, 2006
Old NWA GUY writes "The flight attendants took a 21% PAY cut. Maybe a 40% cut including benefits but not a 40% paycut!!!"
That may be true, but anything that is lost is a paycut, no matter which way you cut it.
After 20 yrs,I have lost 3 weeks vacation, the value of a day of vacation has also gone down from 3:30 hrs a day to 3 hrs., loss of sickleave accrual, sickleave paid at only 75% of hrs used up to 28 hrs, and lets not forget, our pensions are frozen. This is just a small portion of the
IMPOSED Conditions of Employment we are working under. That adds up to 40-50% paycut!!
Also we have to work up to 100 hrs now!!
Just An Observer

Grand Rapids, MI

#14 Dec 19, 2006
Nadine Fletemier wrote:
I am a 46 yr old grandmother of 6. I have been selling New and used cars for seven years. I am looking to change my career, and become an Air Line Flight Attendant. I am very good with people and have an understanding of how all people like to be treated, especally when they are spending money. Working at a Car Dealership I was the only woman for the last 3 yrs of my employment. I am a team player and will be willing to work extra hours for the company.
Do you have the potential to slice somebody's throat, or steal their job? If you do, you're hired!BTW, my grandmother had 7 kids! I think stealing is right up your alley!
Far sighted

Woburn, MA

#15 Dec 19, 2006
Old NWA Guy wrote:
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The flight attendants took a 21% PAY cut. Maybe a 40% cut including benefits but not a 40% paycut!!!
ONWAG, we took "atleast" a 40% paycut. In our job, work rules equal $$$. eg: ground holding pay. We can now sit for an entire duty period, 14-18 hours, at the gate with a plane load of passengers and if the flight cancels at the end of the day, we don't get a penny. How many jobs do you know of where that sort of thing happens. Perhaps you are not aware of how deeply our contract was cut.
Flight Attendant

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Dec 20, 2006
Old NWA Guy wrote:
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The flight attendants took a 21% PAY cut. Maybe a 40% cut including benefits but not a 40% paycut!!!
Is this Doug Steenland? We took a 40% paycut even NWA has admitted that Old NWA Guy
Flight Attendant

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Dec 20, 2006
Nadine Fletemier wrote:
I am a 46 yr old grandmother of 6. I have been selling New and used cars for seven years. I am looking to change my career, and become an Air Line Flight Attendant. I am very good with people and have an understanding of how all people like to be treated, especally when they are spending money. Working at a Car Dealership I was the only woman for the last 3 yrs of my employment. I am a team player and will be willing to work extra hours for the company.
Good luck with that new job of your grandma. Keep in mind however, you will not be home for Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Newsyears, Christmas eve, and any weekends for about 10-15 years. Also don't plan on attending any of your grandchildrens concerts, sports activities, etc. for at least 10-15 years, because you will be at the mercy of NWA. for about $17,000 a year.

But have at it. I for one am out of here
Honorable EX-NWA wife

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Dec 20, 2006
Flight Attendant wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this Doug Steenland? We took a 40% paycut even NWA has admitted that Old NWA Guy
Gee, I bet wondering why you crossed the AMFA picket lines was not a Good choice, eh?
Flight Attendant

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Dec 20, 2006
I voted to strike with the mechanics. I would have walked with them in a minute. What is honorable about ripping on flight attendants? What happened to the honorable EX-NWA wife that makes you so hateful?
Andy

AOL

#20 Dec 21, 2006
capt avgas wrote:
Nadine,
As a captain for this airline, I strongly recommend you stick with your current job. You have no idea what this place is like to work for. They will lie to you at every opportunity, and use the courts to screw you in every way possible. They are recruiting FAs because of a possible strike and we all know it. BTW,$17.50 is half of what they earn now and they took a 40% pay cut. As a captain, I not only fly the crap we have but I am also a social worker/consoler and I know what they are doing to people. Just look up jobvent.com and exnwa.com and read what employees have to say.
It is best to avoid this airline. They even locked out the long time loyal aircraft mechanics forcing a strike. The result was a lot of outsourced jobs and low life scabs. Not a pretty picture.

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