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OLD NWA Guy

Naples, FL

#1 Jan 11, 2013
Wno How areyou coming with that list of negative predictions about Delta, that ever actually happened?
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#2 Jan 11, 2013
OLD NWA Guy wrote:
Wno How areyou coming with that list of negative predictions about Delta, that ever actually happened?
Well, from reading the news and delter's raising e landing... I'd say pretty good.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#3 Jan 12, 2013
Delta B772 over Atlantic on Jan 9th 2013, engine trouble

A Delta Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration N705DN performing flight DL-201 from Johannesburg (South Africa) to Atlanta, GA (USA), was enroute over the Atlantic Ocean when the crew decided to divert to to Ascension Island [FHAW] for a safe landing due to an engine (GE90) problem.

A replacement Boeing 777-200 registration N703DN was dispatched to Ascension Island as flight DAL-9978 and reached Atlanta as flight DL-201A at 02:28L (07:28Z) with a delay of 20.5 hours.

A passenger reported the crew announced a technical problem with an engine, the aircraft dumped fuel while diverting to the British Air Force Base at coordinates S7.969444 W14.393611 in the middle of the South Atlantic Ocean.
$$$$$$$$$$

Predictions are a funny thing. Most times, you have to wait for them to come true. Some times it happen fast, and some times they're Quatrains.
OLD NWA Guy

Naples, FL

#4 Jan 13, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
Delta B772 over Atlantic on Jan 9th 2013, engine trouble
A Delta Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration N705DN performing flight DL-201 from Johannesburg (South Africa) to Atlanta, GA (USA), was enroute over the Atlantic Ocean when the crew decided to divert to to Ascension Island [FHAW] for a safe landing due to an engine (GE90) problem.
A replacement Boeing 777-200 registration N703DN was dispatched to Ascension Island as flight DAL-9978 and reached Atlanta as flight DL-201A at 02:28L (07:28Z) with a delay of 20.5 hours.
A passenger reported the crew announced a technical problem with an engine, the aircraft dumped fuel while diverting to the British Air Force Base at coordinates S7.969444 W14.393611 in the middle of the South Atlantic Ocean.
$$$$$$$$$$
Predictions are a funny thing. Most times, you have to wait for them to come true. Some times it happen fast, and some times they're Quatrains.
So,are you saying you prediced this engine problem?Come on winogive ud real prediction you made that ever happened.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#5 Jan 13, 2013
OLD NWA Guy wrote:
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So,are you saying you prediced this engine problem?Come on winogive ud real prediction you made that ever happened.
Ok my prediction was ,and is. If you give away the control of the maintenance, the fleet reliability will fall apart. Emergency landing are up industry wide. The FAA is to short handed too do much about it. The FAA is trusting the airlines to do the right thing. In a deregulated world the stockholders come first - right after the executives bonus checks.
Spade a Spade

Rochester, MN

#6 Jan 13, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>Ok my prediction was ,and is. If you give away the control of the maintenance, the fleet reliability will fall apart. Emergency landing are up industry wide. The FAA is to short handed too do much about it. The FAA is trusting the airlines to do the right thing. In a deregulated world the stockholders come first - right after the executives bonus checks.
Wine we know that the idiot arguing its point believes that not maintaining and inspecting less is a good thing.He believes it results in less problems. I believe that is what he is arguing..
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#7 Jan 13, 2013
If you don't look while in check, there are less problems. However, in flight ? Delta is getting back to the andy roberts nwa surprise flights. Buy a ticket and get to see new places along the way. Wonder what those passengers thought about the Brithish Air Force Base.
OLD NWA Guy

Naples, FL

#8 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
If you don't look while in check, there are less problems. However, in flight ? Delta is getting back to the andy roberts nwa surprise flights. Buy a ticket and get to see new places along the way. Wonder what those passengers thought about the Brithish Air Force Base.
Your venom and bitterness leads you to say stupid thints about Delta because it makes you feel better. Ypu still have not come up with a single dire prediction you made about either NW that ever happened.Admit it, you and Spade just make each other feel good but never have prdicted anything rational.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#9 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
Predictions are a funny thing. Most times, you have to wait for them to come true. Some times it happen fast, and some times they're Quatrains.
That is unless the guy making the predictions has no idea what he's talking about.

fine whine on Aug 22, 2007

"Don't trust anderson, his money is invested in CAL. All of the current or ex nwa officers are. NW will go to CAL, and Delta will be gone."

"NW is going sell their Asian routes by merging with CAL. Big money in their pockets, and a big stock payoff in their CAL stocks."

You've lied about non-existent NTSB reports. You've lied about all the award winning maintenance operations you've worked for. And your crystal ball doesn't seem to be working.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#10 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>Ok my prediction was ,and is. If you give away the control of the maintenance, the fleet reliability will fall apart. Emergency landing are up industry wide. The FAA is to short handed too do much about it. The FAA is trusting the airlines to do the right thing. In a deregulated world the stockholders come first - right after the executives bonus checks.
fine whine Jun 14, 2007 "NW has had 24 emergency landing in the last 20 months. These are only the ones that got reported to the news. Nobody can say how many they kept out of the news !"

Seems like when you have a problem with an airline, their emergency landing rate goes up. I can't find an official, verifiable emergency landing database anywhere.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#11 Jan 14, 2013
skygod wrote:
<quoted text>fine whine Jun 14, 2007 "NW has had 24 emergency landing in the last 20 months. These are only the ones that got reported to the news. Nobody can say how many they kept out of the news !"
Seems like when you have a problem with an airline, their emergency landing rate goes up. I can't find an official, verifiable emergency landing database anywhere.
NTSB is a good one. But you know... you are right... I don't know anything about aircraft. Because if I did I'd find a better way to make a living. I ask myself why I care? when so many like you are doing the flying. If I knew half of what you have forgotten I'd be good. I could kick the tires, jam the throttles back and forth a couples of times, whip out my pen, and know that the skygods will bring it home.

So are you sure RA never owned cal stock? I mean if the e landings eludes you couldn't other things? And as for Spade, I'll support him any way I can. Because, unlike so many, like you... he never crossed the line. So brush off the hotel dust and go fly yourself.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#12 Jan 14, 2013
skygod wrote:
<quoted text>That is unless the guy making the predictions has no idea what he's talking about.
fine whine on Aug 22, 2007
"Don't trust anderson, his money is invested in CAL. All of the current or ex nwa officers are. NW will go to CAL, and Delta will be gone."
"NW is going sell their Asian routes by merging with CAL. Big money in their pockets, and a big stock payoff in their CAL stocks."
You've lied about non-existent NTSB reports. You've lied about all the award winning maintenance operations you've worked for. And your crystal ball doesn't seem to be working.
You've lied about all the award winning maintenance operations you've worked for.

When did I say this? Come on your so good with copy and paste lets see it.
not a fine wine

Duluth, MN

#13 Jan 14, 2013
OLD NWA Guy wrote:
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Your venom and bitterness leads you to say stupid thints about Delta because it makes you feel better. Ypu still have not come up with a single dire prediction you made about either NW that ever happened.Admit it, you and Spade just make each other feel good but never have prdicted anything rational.
Lets hope it stays that way.
OLD NWA Guy

Naples, FL

#14 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text> NTSB is a good one. But you know... you are right... I don't know anything about aircraft. Because if I did I'd find a better way to make a living. I ask myself why I care? when so many like you are doing the flying. If I knew half of what you have forgotten I'd be good. I could kick the tires, jam the throttles back and forth a couples of times, whip out my pen, and know that the skygods will bring it home.
So are you sure RA never owned cal stock? I mean if the e landings eludes you couldn't other things? And as for Spade, I'll support him any way I can. Because, unlike so many, like you... he never crossed the line. So brush off the hotel dust and go fly yourself.
I believe thousands of investors owned CO.RA was nevera large haeholer in O. You and Spade have been maing that claim for ears but were never able to offer the slightest proof.tll waiting on the Delta prediction That proved to be true
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#15 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>You've lied about all the award winning maintenance operations you've worked for.
When did I say this? Come on your so good with copy and paste lets see it.
Here is is again. Fine whine's version of an award winning maintenance operation.

"Not retired yet. Been bouncing around working in the arrogant northeast. My last stop was at one of these... not hack repair stations, but one to far behind the power curve to do it right. The place is very mismanaged. The top working supervisor has never worked anywhere else and thinks his little place of employment is a competitor with Duncan Aviation. The guy controls every aspect of maintenance. He is very threaten by anyone with more experience than him. If something is found that is beyond his experience, of 10 + corporate years, he will convince his boss, who is dating his daughter, that it's not within the scope of the inspection. Most of the mechanics are straight out of a local A&P school, and take his word as gospel. The few mechanics who do know what's going on either placate him to keep their jobs... or put as much distance between him and them as they can. Even his boss knows he's lacking, but if he wants happy times at home he can't F with dad. I walked away from this place after they promoted an ex-Army, spit polished, I'll never forget the... Be All You Can Be... Lessons that straighten out his 28 years of life when he began his 10 years of enlistment time. Watching this guy strut around now that he was the leader of two, was just to much to take. And just more proof of who's really run the show. With bozos like this calling the shots. I didn't feel it was a safe place to work."

Your words. Not mine. Doesn't sound like any award winner I've ever heard of.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#16 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text> NTSB is a good one. But you know... you are right... I don't know anything about aircraft. Because if I did I'd find a better way to make a living. I ask myself why I care? when so many like you are doing the flying. If I knew half of what you have forgotten I'd be good. I could kick the tires, jam the throttles back and forth a couples of times, whip out my pen, and know that the skygods will bring it home.
Been bringing it home for almost 30 years. Just think people need to qualify your opinions with your obvious agenda, and lack of recent airline experience.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#17 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
<quoted text>
So are you sure RA never owned cal stock? I mean if the e landings eludes you couldn't other things? And as for Spade, I'll support him any way I can. Because, unlike so many, like you... he never crossed the line. So brush off the hotel dust and go fly yourself.
Who cares if RA owned CAL stock? Your prediction was NWA selling Asian routes and going to CAL while Delta goes away. Delta didn't go away. Merging DAL and NWA wasn't going to do much for RA's (imaginary) CAL holdings. Makes your whole theory crap. Nothing new.
E-landings aren't eluding me. They are something you make up after reading that blog you like. The report of that B777 incident makes no mention of an emergency landing. It probably was, but that isn't in the blog report.
I'm not surprised you'll support Chump Change any way you can. You award winners need to stick together.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#18 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
A Delta Airlines Boeing 777-200, registration N705DN performing flight DL-201 from Johannesburg (South Africa) to Atlanta, GA (USA), was enroute over the Atlantic Ocean when the crew decided to divert to to Ascension Island [FHAW] for a safe landing due to an engine (GE90) problem.
A replacement Boeing 777-200 registration N703DN was dispatched to Ascension Island as flight DAL-9978 and reached Atlanta as flight DL-201A at 02:28L (07:28Z) with a delay of 20.5 hours.
A passenger reported the crew announced a technical problem with an engine, the aircraft dumped fuel while diverting to the British Air Force Base at coordinates S7.969444 W14.393611 in the middle of the South Atlantic Ocean.
As long as we are talking cut and paste, this exact post showed up on exNWA.com on Jan 12. No agenda here at all. Just a fair and unbiased concern for airline maintenance. Notice there is no mention of "emergency landing". That's something you added.
Spade a Spade

Rochester, MN

#19 Jan 14, 2013
not a fine wine wrote:
If you don't look while in check, there are less problems. However, in flight ? Delta is getting back to the andy roberts nwa surprise flights. Buy a ticket and get to see new places along the way. Wonder what those passengers thought about the Brithish Air Force Base.
If the maintenance experts here keep telling how good it is and how less maintenance is better then who are we to dispute them. But then a wanna be and a stewardess does have it all figured out because Dick says so. There is one thing I do know about the airline business, what is good today is crap tomorrow. I am glad these buttheads get up every day and go sleep in a hotel away from family to pay my pension every month. Kind of brings a tear to my eye.
skygod

Tacoma, WA

#20 Jan 14, 2013
Spade a Spade wrote:
<quoted text> I am glad these buttheads get up every day and go sleep in a hotel away from family to pay my pension every month. Kind of brings a tear to my eye.
Actual quote from 20 year AMFA guy posted on exNWA.com :

"I've been drawing a pittance NWA/D retirement since 2005"

Pittance? I was laughing so hard I started crying too.

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