Gay marriage bill gets an extended ru...

Gay marriage bill gets an extended run in NY

There are 9 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 24, 2011, titled Gay marriage bill gets an extended run in NY. In it, Newsday reports that:

Gay marriage supporters and opponents rally in the hallway at the Capitol in Albany, N.Y. Videos Gay rights Rallies grow Gay marriage roundtable Galleries Same-sex marriage debated in Albany A coalition of gay rights advocates on Friday morning demanded that New York's Senate break a lingering logjam and allow a vote on the legalization of gay ...

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hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jun 24, 2011
Now it's ridiculous and I'm convinced they're stalling. I don't know on what grounds or in what particulars, but this is stalling, pure and simple.

Again and again, this issue is tied up in "morality" and again and again, I have explained that when one muddies the waters of morality with something that has nothing to do with morality, one destroys the moral code. I couldn't be more fascinated, couldn't possibly be more fascinated than I am, that the destruction of this moral code is coming at the hands of *ultra-conservatives*, and no one else in this country.

EVERY other discussion of morality in this country is able to make basic, general concessions by which people can coexist peacefully. It doesn't always work that way, but many such discussions do.

It is the ultra-conservatives who wreck it, who come blustering in with demands they won't budge an inch on, swiftly pissing people the fuck off and igniting culture wars where everyone becomes an arrogant person unto herself or himself, refusing to budge, engaging in knock-down-drag-out fight after fight with no end in sight.

I certainly don't blame them. I could do this for HUNDREDS of years if I had to, my determination is so steely and unwavering. If Group A can tell Group B how to live,*nothing but cold, cold logic says* that Group B can tell Group A how to live. If Group A ignores Group B, then Group B ignores Group A, and the discussion is over.

It's that simple. It's no more complicated than that. How simple can it get? It *can't* get any simpler.

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#2 Jun 24, 2011
I am convinced that the republicans won't bring this to a vote because they have been granted every religious intolerance amendment they have asked for and are out of excuses. They know it will pass and never thought they would be in this position.

Does Gov. Cuomo have the authority to force them to stay in Albany until they bring it up for a vote?

Since: Dec 08

Seminole, FL

#3 Jun 24, 2011
Damned Roboblogger

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hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Jun 24, 2011
Ron431 wrote:
I am convinced that the republicans won't bring this to a vote because they have been granted every religious intolerance amendment they have asked for and are out of excuses. They know it will pass and never thought they would be in this position.
Does Gov. Cuomo have the authority to force them to stay in Albany until they bring it up for a vote?
I don't know but I am so (expletive) sick of urging people to fight, fight, fight. I asked from the outset, Is there *any* law,*any* procedure in place, by which a vote on this can be *forced*, come hell or high water? Anything? The problem is that I don't trust the answers I would likely receive. When people say "No, there isn't," I don't buy it.

There *must* be some way to force a vote on this, and I wish some pundit knew what it was. Christ, I would take these people to COURT (which I believe is unprecedented) to FORCE a vote on this if I were involved and could get *one sad scrap of a human being* to agree to support the case. I would be identical to the "religious" -- that is, I would stop at *nothing* to get this passed.

Then you know you did everything you could, and you fight like crazy again next year, or the year after that, and you never stop fighting, ever. To think that these *scabrous lovers of filth* should be the reason that families and children do not have the protection of the law is laughable CRAP.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#5 Jun 24, 2011
I wish they would stop this screwin around and pass the damn bill !

I do NOT think that Skelos will allow the bill to be voted on.

I hope I'm wrong, but I can't reach any other conclusion.

:(
DivaJean

Moravia, NY

#6 Jun 24, 2011
Don't they know my summer plans hinge on their outcome?

(We might be getting remarried on our 17th anniversary in August-- if it passes!)
NNN

United States

#8 Jun 24, 2011
Why not let the people of New York vote on it? Wait, then it wouldn't get passed. Never mind.

Hi Hi, many people oppose it besides those "ultra-conservative" boogeymen you're throwing a tantrum about.

Since: Dec 08

Seminole, FL

#9 Jun 24, 2011
Of course you can't dear.

That's what happens when you live your life in the negative. You reap what you sow. Bless your tiny mind and heart.
Frank Stanton wrote:
I wish they would stop this screwin around and pass the damn bill !
I do NOT think that Skelos will allow the bill to be voted on.
I hope I'm wrong, but I can't reach any other conclusion.
:(
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#10 Jun 24, 2011
NNN wrote:
Why not let the people of New York vote on it? Wait, then it wouldn't get passed. Never mind.
Hi Hi, many people oppose it besides those "ultra-conservative" boogeymen you're throwing a tantrum about.
Why not let the people of New York vote on it ?

Because we live in a republic, not a democracy. Didn't they teach basic civics in your grade school ?!(They did in mine).

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