Strike Talks Begin at Southwest Airlines

Dec 15, 2008 Full story: www.nbcactionnews.com 49

The Transport Workers Union says it plans to begin picketing Monday, December 15th, at airports in Phoenix, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Seattle.

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Since: May 08

Santee CA

#1 Dec 15, 2008
It's called informational picketing. Not striking. The Railway Labor Act prohibits strking until after the completeion of a 30 cooling off period. That cooling off clock starts when a mediator declares an impasse. In other words SWA would have 30 plus days to hire and train scab replacements. Why do you think you don't see many airline strikes anymore. Save the ill advised NWA strike AMFA thought was a good idea. That is the next episode of where are they now

Since: Apr 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#2 Dec 15, 2008
Here we go again, the dismantling of another great comapny by greedy employees.

You would think that the current situation in the airline and auto industry would send a loud and clear message to union menbers that they need to suck it in and be thankful that they have a job.

Now you know why we are resisting bailouts to support selfish workers who want it all and the hell with everyone else.

Maybe Chrysler and GM will join the ranks of Eastern and PanAm. You can bet that the former Eastern, Braniff, and PanAM,,, etc. employees thought the bottom would never fall out.

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#3 Dec 15, 2008
I'm in favor of the bailouts of any industry. With one stipulation. The top management people who ran thier companies into such a poor positions fall on the proverbial sword. We are off to a good start when on the 20th of January a good number of the Executive and Legislative branches of this country change addresses
Tom

Acworth, GA

#4 Dec 16, 2008
Prost wrote:
I'm in favor of the bailouts of any industry. With one stipulation. The top management people who ran thier companies into such a poor positions fall on the proverbial sword. We are off to a good start when on the 20th of January a good number of the Executive and Legislative branches of this country change addresses
Amen to that brother. These ceo's with thier mba's from harvard and yale think they have a license to steal and keep the middle class down. Their pay should be based on company perforance. Soon there will be no middle class. Trickle down economics does not work.
John

Chicago, IL

#5 Dec 16, 2008
THIS IS A LIE!!

The news is making this up.. There is absolutely NO talks of strike.
capt avgas

United States

#6 Dec 16, 2008
tulaaretired wrote:
Here we go again, the dismantling of another great comapny by greedy employees.
You would think that the current situation in the airline and auto industry would send a loud and clear message to union menbers that they need to suck it in and be thankful that they have a job.
Now you know why we are resisting bailouts to support selfish workers who want it all and the hell with everyone else.
Maybe Chrysler and GM will join the ranks of Eastern and PanAm. You can bet that the former Eastern, Braniff, and PanAM,,, etc. employees thought the bottom would never fall out.
Obviously a management type comment
UBME

United States

#7 Dec 16, 2008
Why is it that the employees are always greedy when they ask for a payraise but the execs always deserve their payraise?
keiko

Plant City, FL

#8 Dec 16, 2008
UBME wrote:
Why is it that the employees are always greedy when they ask for a payraise but the execs always deserve their payraise?
The contract has been voted in 2001, after reading some comments let me clarify something, First there is no plan for any strikes at this time, diplomacy first. 2nd Ground Operation Workers at southwest airlines made them what they are, they are just asking for a fair salary, yes they are the highest pay in the industry but look at the productivity. Third and the most important, they are just asking for the cost of living guys, that's it. Is it too much ?, are they greedy ? I let you decide.
Zebra

New Port Richey, FL

#9 Dec 16, 2008
keiko wrote:
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The contract has been voted in 2001, after reading some comments let me clarify something, First there is no plan for any strikes at this time, diplomacy first. 2nd Ground Operation Workers at southwest airlines made them what they are, they are just asking for a fair salary, yes they are the highest pay in the industry but look at the productivity. Third and the most important, they are just asking for the cost of living guys, that's it. Is it too much ?, are they greedy ? I let you decide.
Yup !!!!! The Price of Fuel and its 'Related Products" is Down,Price of Housing is Down Etc...Every one Else including The Auto Industry is Taking CUTS... Guys I wish you Well ,But Don't Price yourself out of the Market, There are a Lot of Hungry Contract workets at TPA...

Since: Apr 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#10 Dec 16, 2008
capt avgas wrote:
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Obviously a management type comment
Yes calt avgas, you got it right. I've seen and know from firsthand experience how the union workers would purposely slow down production, sleep on the job when the opprotunity availed itself, and would hideout to avoid work. When a new ambitious worker shows up he or she told the internal rules about production quotas and when to take your nap. If they don't comply the games and threats start such as slashed tires, missing tools and other pranks. Anyone in the industry that denies this is lying through their teeth.

But come contract time it's give me, give me, give me, or I'll shut you down.

Since: Apr 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#11 Dec 16, 2008
Oh pardon me, it should be 'capt avgas'. Sorry for the typo!
Jeff

United States

#12 Dec 16, 2008
How is $24 an hour top out pay not enough for a ramp agent?

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#13 Dec 16, 2008
Aside from the obvious, SWA doesn't have a defined pension plan so a portion of that need to be invested for the future. How much do you think a person need s to make to feed, cloth and put thier kids thru college. The ramp gets you on time to your destination on a clean plane with your bag.(more often than not) In all weather. 365 days a year. When it's 130 heat index we're out there.-65 wind chill still there. Rain, snow , sleet yup. Christmas day, Thanksgiving. New Years day when your hung over. I had to be in bed @ 10 am to get up and be to work by 5. Can you find a guy to do it for $10 an hour, sure. but they are all waiting to make the big money. Jeff, what do you do and how much does your industry pay on the average? Pilot make over $100 an hour to fly in a month less than I work in 2 weeks, and they monitor a computer all day. I know, I should have gone to flight school
nobody

Hood River, OR

#14 Dec 16, 2008
Jeff wrote:
How is $24 an hour top out pay not enough for a ramp agent?
Do you actually know what the company wants and what the union wants?

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#15 Dec 16, 2008
sorry meant to write 10p new years eve to be at work by 5 new years day
John

Chicago, IL

#16 Dec 16, 2008
There's no use arguing about it guys. There's just too many "haters" as the kids say these days. People don't want to hear about anyone else getting raises or receiving decent pay. Everyone should be miserable. That really is what it comes down to..
Jeff

United States

#17 Dec 16, 2008
No the reality is that you made a career decision throwing bags for an airline. You do realize that registered nurses with a college degree dont make $24 an hour? Don't bite the hand that feeds as the majority of rampers would not have a degree or skill to get a better paying job elsewhere.
Moe Howard

United States

#18 Dec 17, 2008
Jeff wrote:
How is $24 an hour top out pay not enough for a ramp agent?
Aftre they take away the health insurance and make you pay for parking and pretty soon they will probably make us pay for the fuel we use in the tugs to take the bags from the bagroom to the a/c Jeff must think hes an important sup. getting a whopping 23.4k a yeard for 90 hrs per week and no ot pay at all.Jeff try to be a little bithuman please.
John

Chicago, IL

#19 Dec 17, 2008
Jeff wrote:
No the reality is that you made a career decision throwing bags for an airline. You do realize that registered nurses with a college degree dont make $24 an hour? Don't bite the hand that feeds as the majority of rampers would not have a degree or skill to get a better paying job elsewhere.
Well maybe the nurses are the ones making the poor career decisions then ;)

Since: May 08

Santee CA

#20 Dec 17, 2008
Jeff wrote:
No the reality is that you made a career decision throwing bags for an airline. You do realize that registered nurses with a college degree dont make $24 an hour? Don't bite the hand that feeds as the majority of rampers would not have a degree or skill to get a better paying job elsewhere.
Actually a large number of us are degreed, or skilled in a field that had no job openings. We opted for this job knowing we might get paid $24/hr. At some point we hit the point of no return. Why should I quit now and make $15/hr to be at the bottom of the totem pole in my original career choice. As the cost of living goes up you need raises to maintain the lifestyle

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