Unions At Lowe's?
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Lowes Bitch

Mooresville, NC

#1 Jan 14, 2013
There is a lot of talk from employees that Unions should enter Lowe's. Empolyees are upset over pay, not enough help, and losses of incentives. What else can the G.O. take from the workers? Has anyone else heard this?

Since: Nov 12

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#2 Jan 14, 2013
Lowes Bitch wrote:
There is a lot of talk from employees that Unions should enter Lowe's. Empolyees are upset over pay, not enough help, and losses of incentives. What else can the G.O. take from the workers? Has anyone else heard this?
Won't happen. Not enough full time hourly employees. Part timers are transient and wouldn't care either way.
then use a proxy

Schnecksville, PA

#3 Jan 14, 2013
Unions are powerless today. Recent events at Walmart (Black Friday "Strike") and the Hostess (Twinkies) liquidation proved that.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#4 Jan 14, 2013
What specifically would a union be able to offer any employee let alone offer the corporation?

The vast majority of retail is not union. Yeah you might find a few stores here or there in NYC or Chicago and maybe LA but that's about it.

Consider this for a moment. What's to prevent customers from shopping online or having the company shift products to other stores that are not union? In right to work states what specifically would be the point in joining a union if non union has the same pay and bennies?

A power in a union is where? Going on strike? Who the hell wants to go on strike? More importantly if you think you have no say in the company you obviously have no say in the union. If a union has 100 members and 51 vote to go on strike and you are one of the 49 that didn't well too bad you are on strike.

Unions only make sense when they have a monopoly of skilled labor and there are few alternatives. With the exception of the kitchen designers there are few jobs at lowes that are skilled work. If designers went on strike maybe that might do some things but then customers would just go to hd or some other place. It's not like everyone HAS to go to lowes to get a kitchen design.

If you want better pay and bennies there are better retailers around, better companies around and probably better locations as well.

Since: Oct 11

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#5 Jan 14, 2013
Forming a union doesn't guarantee better benefits and perks, but it does guarantee you start at no benefits and then begin negotiations. You get only what is agreed upon by the company---and it may be less than what we already have. Unions aren't helpful but they take your money and promise lots of things -more money, better benefits etc...they can promise plenty but they cannot deliver a single thing...only empty promises.

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#6 Jan 14, 2013
If unions were so awesome, wouldn't everyone have them?
redvests to close in aug

Schnecksville, PA

#7 Jan 14, 2013
CedricC wrote:
If unions were so awesome, wouldn't everyone have them?
BoardWalkLies aka Cedric C, infamous troll owner of redvests must be really bored on his own website to come over here.

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Whickerbill

Mooresville, NC

#8 Jan 14, 2013
Pedro Rodriquez wrote:
Forming a union doesn't guarantee better benefits and perks, but it does guarantee you start at no benefits and then begin negotiations. You get only what is agreed upon by the company---and it may be less than what we already have. Unions aren't helpful but they take your money and promise lots of things -more money, better benefits etc...they can promise plenty but they cannot deliver a single thing...only empty promises.
I agree with Pedro. I have been in a union before. They will not benefit hard working people. In my experience, a union will protect the slackers and actually put heat on those that do too good of a job. If you do not toe the union line to their liking, you will be threatened, your property will be damaged, and your pets may be killed by union thugs. We went on strike one time and were told by the national union that we were on our own to get a settlement, that they would not help us. I could go on, but you should get what I am saying.

A union is not a solution to the problem.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#9 Jan 14, 2013
I would add that at least on the store level this would not work. Distribution is a whole different argument...that might work technically. If products cannot be sent out they would take longer to arrive from other RDC's.

Since: Nov 12

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#10 Jan 14, 2013
" If products cannot be sent out they would take longer to arrive from other RDC's."

Masters Degree in Distribution
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#11 Jan 14, 2013
No I would say there can be distribution and redistribution centers (RDC). Depends on how they are defined by the company. A few days ago I drove by a Ikea distribution center in Quebec..pretty huge considering all the loading bays.
redvests mod is troll

Schnecksville, PA

#12 Jan 15, 2013
CedricC wrote:
If unions were so awesome, wouldn't everyone have them?
BoardWalkLies aka CedricC,

Do they have a union at the movie plex you work at as an usher?

“Bumming a smoke in Fresno”

Since: Feb 13

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#13 Feb 4, 2013
Brad Mason wrote:
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Won't happen. Not enough full time hourly employees. Part timers are transient and wouldn't care either way.
You can't have 10 special needs Lowe's employees on the side of the highway without one of them getting nailed by a Durango
bella

Shamokin, PA

#14 Feb 4, 2013
Lowes Bitch wrote:
There is a lot of talk from employees that Unions should enter Lowe's. Empolyees are upset over pay, not enough help, and losses of incentives. What else can the G.O. take from the workers? Has anyone else heard this?
unions give you a voice at rdc in pa what managment says goes they are fireing people up here left and right for petty stuff (good workers too)that wouldnt happen with a union ya wouldnt have to live in fear with a union you would have rights and representation and a voice they wouldnt change your health care or change the rules unless you voted on it and passed it there are a lot of good things about a union
bella

Shamokin, PA

#15 Feb 4, 2013
unions give you a voice at rdc in pa what managment says goes they are fireing people up here left and right for petty stuff (good workers too)that wouldnt happen with a union ya wouldnt have to live in fear with a union you would have rights and representation and a voice they wouldnt change your health care or change the rules unless you voted on it and passed it there are a lot of good things about a union

“Bumming a smoke in Fresno”

Since: Feb 13

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#17 Feb 4, 2013
Lowes despises unions....I've never been too happy about them either.
But, they did have their place at one time.
DG has psycho DM's? Well,Lowe's does too. We also have psycho SM's and Ops Mgrs. as well. Always telling you what their rules are (contrary to the company policy) and then won't give you the tools to do what they want.
One time a bunch of us red-vests were gathered and talking about something or other and one of the zone managers,(one of the better ones) happened to wander past and mentioned that the bunch of us all clustered up looked like a blood clot....
Some one piped up that we were having a union meeting, and this poor zone mgr turned white as a sheet and said "Don't ever say that word"!!!
Suzy B

Henderson, TN

#20 May 22, 2015
If unions are so pointless, why do they exist?
Take a look at working conditions within your store.
Check out the way that managerial and HR treat their staff.
Answer the questions you have, such as:
Is there a bias toward favoring or disfavoring some employees but not others?
Do some employees work hard and are others slackers?
Does management do anything about them?
Are you happy about the way that local grievances are acknowledged and problems resolved?
Are you confident that you have a voice and that you are respected for voicing any concerns, and that they are resolved?
Is there an disconnect between what Lowe's says it aims to do, and what actually happens in stores?
If the answers to those questions and more are good and positive, then there is no problem.
But if the answers to those questions and more are concerned with problems that have remained despite your raising them as issues with any superior, you probably need a union.
Bear in mind that an employer is not always in the best place to acknowledge problems, let alone resolve them.
goosebumps

Detroit, MI

#21 May 26, 2015
Suzy B wrote:
If unions are so pointless, why do they exist?
Take a look at working conditions within your store.
Check out the way that managerial and HR treat their staff.
Answer the questions you have, such as:
Is there a bias toward favoring or disfavoring some employees but not others?
Do some employees work hard and are others slackers?
Does management do anything about them?
Are you happy about the way that local grievances are acknowledged and problems resolved?
Are you confident that you have a voice and that you are respected for voicing any concerns, and that they are resolved?
Is there an disconnect between what Lowe's says it aims to do, and what actually happens in stores?
If the answers to those questions and more are good and positive, then there is no problem.
But if the answers to those questions and more are concerned with problems that have remained despite your raising them as issues with any superior, you probably need a union.
Bear in mind that an employer is not always in the best place to acknowledge problems, let alone resolve them.
There's ALWAYS a place for unions, just nowadays Americans are becoming brainwashed wimps who tolerate every and anything from government to low wages and other crap from your place of employment. No one stands up for or fights for ANYTHING anymore. We just rollover and kiss butt to keep barely surviving in this country. Everyone's afraid of losing the little they have to gain more!
nedm

Springfield, MA

#22 Jun 1, 2015
Eh wimps? Sorry pal but face the facts unions don't do much these days.

If you have a closed system then they work due to a lack of choice. Now there's plenty of choice.

If you want to block a store customers will just sell online or make phone or fax orders.

A union can block you from getting a raise? How? It's all in the contract. You lose the right to negotiate with an employer if you are in a union.

Fight for what specifically? Is it THAT hard to realize you have to gain experience and a education to be valued?
Lana Wharton

Memphis, TN

#23 Nov 17, 2016
Lowes workers are underpaid. Insurance is debateable.

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