Lowes bigtime layoffs full time employees?

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jeepster

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Bird wrote:
I don't see how they could fire you for that. What do you mean that you called to check on an item? Do you mean that you wanted to see if the item was still available? Did you want to check to see if it was on backorder?
I called the store that had the item. They said they had it but it was on hold for a customer. It wasn't paid for. So my commercial customer told me to order it using backup inventory. When I got the confirmation number we called the store and they said they weren't letting my customer have it...the mod made a judgement call and he was letting the " on hold customer " have it. That's when I called customer care..for them to actually find out why. My commercial customer had to get his card refunded. This all happened appx. 6 weeks ago. 8/14 was when my sm decided to fire me over it
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#1773
Aug 21, 2012
 
doubt that's why you got fired.
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#1774
Aug 21, 2012
 
more to it wrote:
doubt that's why you got fired.
you're right. My sm and the other store's manager are friends...icome to find out. It made my sm look bad in his buddies eyes.at this point corporate is investigating it. But..it was still wrongful termination.
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There's nothing "wrongful" about it in the eyes of the law. As for lowes, instead of apologizing to the customer and finding a different way to the the product for them, you encouraged a corp complaint call in an attempt to override a member of management's decision. I thing a write up would have been more appropriate, but I don't know your back story. Maybe you were already on a final.
2x4 nedm3

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hey there is no managemnet at lowes--dmxmd that is a bunch of bull and you know--it--you act like an authotity and you are not--guess what--it is all whatever---if you are as good as you say why are you at lowes-?? a losing company--executive greed----what is your reason to be associated with them?? i see everyone casting down on nedm--he or she is probably the best of lowes or hd--he have seems very intelligent--not most like what i see in their stores--hey lets face it they need some real help--most associates think a 2x 4 is something you smoke.. get real
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Ok. So here goes. Store manager Steve Kocacik at Lowes #265 in Columbus Ohio is an overgrown kid with a wanna be a man syndrome. He uses intimidation as his weapon to control emoloyees. His favorite target are older workers who have been here a long time and who usually make higher wages. Recently he terminated an older worker who had been at this store for close to 8 years. Evidently he used a lame excuse to fire her...but according to coworkers..myself included she had a "older worker who makes too much money" target on the back of her vest.most tenured employees are running scared now..in fear that we are next. Talking to HR in the "open door " context is useless. He seems to be Steves yes man..so we feel confidentiality is not there. Anyway..a lot of us don' t look forward to coming to work. The truth is out!
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at out store we are saying ... Lowes is like the flintstones... home depot is like the Jetson....
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#1779
Sep 22, 2012
 
File a compliant with EEOC. Several employees in our store have for age discrimination. It is about to go into mediation.
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Ok. So here goes. Store manager Steve Kocacik at Lowes #265 in Columbus Ohio is an overgrown kid with a wanna be a man syndrome. He uses intimidation as his weapon to control emoloyees. His favorite target are older workers who have been here a long time and who usually make higher wages. Recently he terminated an older worker who had been at this store for close to 8 years. Evidently he used a lame excuse to fire her...but according to coworkers..myself included she had a "older worker who makes too much money" target on the back of her vest.most tenured employees are running scared now..in fear that we are next. Talking to HR in the "open door " context is useless. He seems to be Steves yes man..so we feel confidentiality is not there. Anyway..a lot of us don' t look forward to coming to work. The truth is out!
Lowes-blowes

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#1780
Sep 23, 2012
 
Corporate Associate wrote:
Hey, you sound intelligent, don't you understand, WE ARE IN CHARGE.
If you don't like it go Orange !
Many people have and are happier.
Lowes-blowes

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trending wrote:
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Stores in Columbus Ohio area were slammed due to the storms a couple weeks ago. We sold generators like nothing else. Staying to help customers after time to go home was great those days. Management even sent emails to say what an awsome team we were by pulling together! BUT...when end of week came we were told to cut hours unless we were on a list of approved employees for overtime. Of course that was implemented from our SM.never mind that we worked our tails off..with stood angry customers and made sure they were served. Maybe next time we should say...sorry it's time for me to leave now...just write a ccic...catch 22. Maybe a call to corporate would do some good?
I do that now. I refuse to stay overtime for a customer. 5 minutes before it's time for me to leave, I take my vest off and start walking to the back. If a customer needs help as I'm walking to the back, I tell them " sorry I'm off the clock."
as we were warned

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Sep 23, 2012
 
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File a compliant with EEOC. Several employees in our store have for age discrimination. It is about to go into mediation.
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Pat? would you mind speaking with me privately? thanks
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Pat? would you mind speaking with me privately? thanks
Ouch burn...
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Sep 23, 2012
 
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Pat? would you mind speaking with me privately? thanks
How can I contact you?
x lowes employee

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Sep 23, 2012
 
I lost my job in May this year after being harrased by my DM,SM, AND HR,when it first started they were accusing me of things I did not do and was not even working when they wrote me up .they told me I had to write I refuse to sign ,which I never heard of the whole 9 yrs I worked there.So I wrote I was not working on that night,I refuse to sign.Which I thougt was crazy.Went to SM she did nothing.It continued to happen ,being written up for false accusaations,went out of the store dist.HR she helped me out.It was good for about 3 months while SM was on 3 month leave she hurt herself at her previous lowes .When she came back it started up again.We had intervention they came to me on the floor and I told the truth.Just found out yesterday that she fell and hurt her leg will be off for a while.They are beliving all her lies And look what happens lowes is paying for her to have all the holidays off like she did last year.I was also told are DISTRICT MANAGER told her if they have another intervention everyones gone.So if you speak the truth and go out of the store you will be terminated,the EOS is a joke.Also the HR who helped me out lost Her job same time I did.
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x lowes employee wrote:
I lost my job in May this year after being harrased by my DM,SM, AND HR,when it first started they were accusing me of things I did not do and was not even working when they wrote me up .they told me I had to write I refuse to sign ,which I never heard of the whole 9 yrs I worked there.So I wrote I was not working on that night,I refuse to sign.Which I thougt was crazy.Went to SM she did nothing.It continued to happen ,being written up for false accusaations,went out of the store dist.HR she helped me out.It was good for about 3 months while SM was on 3 month leave she hurt herself at her previous lowes .When she came back it started up again.We had intervention they came to me on the floor and I told the truth.Just found out yesterday that she fell and hurt her leg will be off for a while.They are beliving all her lies And look what happens lowes is paying for her to have all the holidays off like she did last year.I was also told are DISTRICT MANAGER told her if they have another intervention everyones gone.So if you speak the truth and go out of the store you will be terminated,the EOS is a joke.Also the HR who helped me out lost Her job same time I did.
Do you or your management take every single customer complaint at face value and fire an employee every time someone complains? No, because we know customers aren't always right depending on circumstances, and their complaints will always be self serving. That's human nature. In order to get someone to side with them, people will say a lot of things that are untrue, throw others under the bus for minor things, etc. Generally, in 90% of situations, I will side with the employee.

It's the same exact thing when an hourly employee goes to the SM or market level to complain about their boss or about getting written up or terminated. Usually the member of management, especially with HR oversight, was doing exactly what needed to be done, but some people always blame others when their performance is questioned. Generally the market staff is going to side with their management teams. There's a reason those people are in the position they're in. Good luck in your future endevors.

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Well, you need to be on this side of the table to see what I see. The hourlies get blamed for a lot of stuff that is management's job. They are guilty EVEN if they can prove they are innocent (in some cases) because management stands behind their management team. I have seen it happen where the SM told an employee to break policy and then they got written up for it-and when they confronted the SM-they denied it.

We have some real weak managers-they know company policy, Genesis, how to dot the I's and cross the T's but dealing with employees in a positive manner--they don't do so well.

Trust is earned and honesty and fairness helps earn it.
nedm

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#1788
Sep 24, 2012
 
When in doubt just pull policy. I remember a zm wanted me to break the safety policy. Sorry dude.

"Are you refusing to do xyz"

"NO that's not what I said, I will follow the policy. Break it on your own accord if you wish"

He later left to a phone company and was fired later. Now he works at a pet box store...never really moved up.

The secret is either to wait for management to screw up or have all employees and customers totally ignore them to the point where they appear useless and thus get canned. I have seen it happen a few times.

They don't have high standards for management at lowes. Once HD starts requiring a degree to be a asm or higher lowes will probably do the same.
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Lowes-blowes wrote:
<quoted text>I do that now. I refuse to stay overtime for a customer. 5 minutes before it's time for me to leave, I take my vest off and start walking to the back. If a customer needs help as I'm walking to the back, I tell them " sorry I'm off the clock."
You should be fired.
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Captain_Morgan02 wrote:
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You should be fired.
He's simply not engaged, and like many long time employees with the company right now (about 30% by my count), It's probably best for both the business and themselves if they move on, voluntarily or not. When you hit that point where you simply don't care any more you are making yourself unhappy, and management is not doing their jobs by either getting you engaged, or getting you out the door. Eventually this culture of negativity will be gone, and we positive engaged people will still be here with a crop of new people who actually care.

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DMxMD wrote:
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He's simply not engaged, and like many long time employees with the company right now (about 30% by my count), It's probably best for both the business and themselves if they move on, voluntarily or not. When you hit that point where you simply don't care any more you are making yourself unhappy, and management is not doing their jobs by either getting you engaged, or getting you out the door. Eventually this culture of negativity will be gone, and we positive engaged people will still be here with a crop of new people who actually care.
I agree with you to a point. Part of the negativity is caused by management-managing by fear, managing by no appreciation, managing by always expecting more.

There is a story in the Bible-Exodus 5 1-17--Israel was in captivity in Egypt. Their task was to make bricks-the Egyptians provided straw, forms, mud and water and the Israelites had to make so many per day. One day Pharaoh got mad and told his men-do not provide the straw--

verse 7 “You are no longer to supply the people with straw for making bricks; let them go and gather their own straw. 8 But require them to make the same number of bricks as before; don’t reduce the quota. They are lazy......"

Sound familiar-Lowes--we will give you less resources but we want the same production or more. And when the employees complain they are deemed negative or not team players and should be gotten rid of. Management CAN positively or negatively affect the attitudes of their employees. It is not all their fault but certainly their way of managing can affect the employees and their customer service.

Good Books to Read- "The Five Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace & How to Win Friends and Influence People." (That is, if you are allowed to without the blessing of Management from NC.)

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