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tired of the crap

Perry, GA

#648 Feb 20, 2011
Not true wrote:
Dose anyone know why there is a mandatory company wide meeting on March 20th?
not really. All we got so far is that the SM will be bringing us up to date on all the crap they are going to discuss at the SAles meeting.

Running joke in the store is that they are going to fire the rest of us all in one fell swoop, 4 days before bonus payout!! Also, the meeting is not mandatory. They will tell you it is, but unless you are salary, they can't make you come.

This came from HR, as in my region, was a lot of bitching last year about saying cashier meetings were mandatory. RHR said it's against some labor law or something, to make hourly come in. They will try and get around it by scheduling you to work the hours of the meeting. If you are full time, it's got to be at least an 8 hour shift. If part time, they might can screw with you.

Since: Jan 11

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#649 Feb 20, 2011
Not true wrote:
Dose anyone know why there is a mandatory company wide meeting on March 20th?
Yes. It is a morning, light breakfast meeting to go over SSEI results and "introduce" your new ASM team,(they actually put that in the email). No worries.

Since: Jan 11

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#650 Feb 20, 2011
tired of the crap wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you. Ops talk last week was all about what they are going to do in Vegas. Way to motivate the team. Fire 1700 folks then start talking about how you are giving away new cars, a chevy truck, and on and on. sure, some of the stuff is vendor supplied, but the plane tickets, hotel rooms, etc. is not.
As far as losing the Sales mgrs. why? All they did was take their job responsibilities and dump them on the Admins. Those of you still with the company, be wary. In my region, they have initiated a "training checklist" supposedly to help displaced mgrs. "rehash" and retrain for what might be areas they haven't dealt with before, like Install sales.
The checklist is signed off on by you and the training Mgr., usually someone at the District level, and you both sign it that you are trained. Looks to me like something to wave in your face along with your termination paperwork, the first time you screw up. A lot of us still with the company are quietly looking for something else, as we think it will just be a matter of time before the rest of us tenured folks go to to make way for the WE team. A bunch of folks they won't have to pay any benefits too, and who won't give 2 shits. Way to go Lowes
The admin training checklist was a joke. One day spent with an AOM to teach a program that used to take 12 weeks,(been awhile but I went through it). Ain't no way.

Since: Jan 11

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#651 Feb 20, 2011
tired of the crap wrote:
<quoted text>not really. All we got so far is that the SM will be bringing us up to date on all the crap they are going to discuss at the SAles meeting.

Running joke in the store is that they are going to fire the rest of us all in one fell swoop, 4 days before bonus payout!! Also, the meeting is not mandatory. They will tell you it is, but unless you are salary, they can't make you come.

This came from HR, as in my region, was a lot of bitching last year about saying cashier meetings were mandatory. RHR said it's against some labor law or something, to make hourly come in. They will try and get around it by scheduling you to work the hours of the meeting. If you are full time, it's got to be at least an 8 hour shift. If part time, they might can screw with you.
As long as you were actively employed on January 28, you will get your bonus MINUS any FMLA time. Y'all have a great time at that "mandatory" meeting; this store manager will be on vacation and that is the only mandatory thing I will be doing that day.
Not true

Harrisburg, PA

#652 Feb 20, 2011
Nessun Dorma wrote:
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Yes. It is a morning, light breakfast meeting to go over SSEI results and "introduce" your new ASM team,(they actually put that in the email). No worries.
I don't know, sounds like a big to do to go over ssei results and to introduce us to a group of people we already know. Not to mention I was told it was to go over the information from the sales meeting. I have been with the company and we have never had a "mandatory" meeting to over sales meeting results. Sounds to me like something major is coming down the pike and they want everyone to hear it at the same time to minimize damage. I may be paranoid (and I truly hope I am) but it seems a bit odd to me.

Since: Feb 11

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#653 Feb 20, 2011
Remember now gang...."we are a team..." Until the bonuses come out,then, it is the management who gets rewarded for all the hard work their people did to make them look good.

Lowes is only as good as the floor employees-they are the first contact with customers usually and, who does the work of counting, IRP's, reports-many times the hourly's while the dept and ASM walk around. I think management is trained not to talk to their employees.

There are still alot of good people at Lowes but the morale is low. There is a feeling that management is looking for something wrong and then they zap you, but, do extra and you get nothing. They will lose employees because most employees cannot support their families on the wages paid.

Since: Jan 11

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#654 Feb 21, 2011
Not true wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know, sounds like a big to do to go over ssei results and to introduce us to a group of people we already know. Not to mention I was told it was to go over the information from the sales meeting. I have been with the company and we have never had a "mandatory" meeting to over sales meeting results. Sounds to me like something major is coming down the pike and they want everyone to hear it at the same time to minimize damage. I may be paranoid (and I truly hope I am) but it seems a bit odd to me.
Yes, we are going to go over sales meeting highlights as well but I am quoting directly from the email. We were told to order juice and donuts, etc. I don't think we would be making any negative announcements over jelly-filled donuts but I don't blame you for being suspicious. I will revisit the email today and get more details.

Since: Jan 11

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#655 Feb 21, 2011
tonyrodriquez wrote:
Remember now gang...."we are a team..." Until the bonuses come out,then, it is the management who gets rewarded for all the hard work their people did to make them look good.

Lowes is only as good as the floor employees-they are the first contact with customers usually and, who does the work of counting, IRP's, reports-many times the hourly's while the dept and ASM walk around. I think management is trained not to talk to their employees.

There are still alot of good people at Lowes but the morale is low. There is a feeling that management is looking for something wrong and then they zap you, but, do extra and you get nothing. They will lose employees because most employees cannot support their families on the wages paid.
I can understand how you might feel this way if you come from a store where you are under appreciated. But most of your senior staff probably started out as an hourly. Trust me, I still push a broom, throw freight and put up with DM drivel. I earn every penny of my bonus.
Do you think

Hudsonville, MI

#656 Feb 21, 2011
Your suppose to have a meeting every year but most store don't because of the payroll and logistics of doing it. Our store has one about every other year, it's mostly a Ra Ra and let's shoot for the moon meeting, but one year we were able to give away truck.
LeadH20Wreck

Orlando, FL

#657 Feb 21, 2011
Not true wrote:
Dose anyone know why there is a mandatory company wide meeting on March 20th?
So we can have more bad news. Agree Frankie?

Since: Jan 11

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#658 Feb 21, 2011
Do you think wrote:
Your suppose to have a meeting every year but most store don't because of the payroll and logistics of doing it. Our store has one about every other year, it's mostly a Ra Ra and let's shoot for the moon meeting, but one year we were able to give away truck.
Interestingly enough, we have a veritable feast once a quarter. It is my chance to celebrate my team. I have had the privilege of giving away cars in every store I have managed. Actually, I didn't give them away; my people earned them. Perhaps I live in a bubble but I cannot imagine having a store where your senior staff is too busy to put together a once-a-year celebration.
Hggdhh juuu

Chicago, IL

#659 Feb 21, 2011
Anyone heard anymore talk of unionizing?

Since: Jan 11

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#660 Feb 21, 2011
Hggdhh juuu wrote:
Anyone heard anymore talk of unionizing?
Doubtful.
nailed it

Kirkland, WA

#661 Feb 21, 2011
Oh big madatory meeting coming for cashiers. The rumor is you must be available 24/7 if you want to keep your job. They can only promise their big 10 hours a week. We will lose a lot of great cashiers because they wont put in any thought into their scheduling. But then again dept mgrs on the front can have all opening shifts. Ahhh so nice.
tired of the crap wrote:
<quoted text>
not really. All we got so far is that the SM will be bringing us up to date on all the crap they are going to discuss at the SAles meeting.
Running joke in the store is that they are going to fire the rest of us all in one fell swoop, 4 days before bonus payout!! Also, the meeting is not mandatory. They will tell you it is, but unless you are salary, they can't make you come.
This came from HR, as in my region, was a lot of bitching last year about saying cashier meetings were mandatory. RHR said it's against some labor law or something, to make hourly come in. They will try and get around it by scheduling you to work the hours of the meeting. If you are full time, it's got to be at least an 8 hour shift. If part time, they might can screw with you.
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#662 Feb 23, 2011
Let Go_Let Down wrote:
<quoted text>
thoughts..... met or exceeded expectations in all PDP categories, no write-ups, yearly bonus all but assured, excellent Customer Focus / SSEI scores and yet I'm gone. Other Senior Mgmt currently on a Final, yet I'm gone. Not "sour grapes" just fact. I do not have the time to dwell & be bitter. I have to find a job and make my mortgage payment. Some that have been released have it worse than me. I totally disagree with the way Lowes handled this. The bottom line was a dollar based decision to boost stock price. At the same time we're being cut loose, Lowes announces massive amounts being made available to charity and an expensive Corporate outting to Vegas next month.
This move will save the company alot in salaries & vacation they won't have to pay. The added PT & Seasonal bodies added to the salesfloor will increase the red vest numbers on the floor and may even help the remaining Associates forget the betrayal a bit sooner.
Those being released are told they are welcome to reapply for open positions and if chosen will be brought back in as new hires. We should have at least been afforded the option of stepping down into another position before they went to this extreme.
Good Luck to those remaining. Please be safe and remember that when a reduction in force like this happens, it's often followed by another.
yhey have to bump up the stock so they will make more money on their stock options remember the only get the difference from what they were bought at and what they are when you exercise the option bought at 30 sold at 50 you make 20 dollars per option and if you get several thousand options thats alot of money. if the stock doesnt grow you make no money.
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#663 Feb 23, 2011
Nessun Dorma wrote:
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Spiffs are paid by the vendor; they cost the store nothing.
Thats what they tell you money gets from the vendor to your pay check awful fast doesnt it.
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#664 Feb 23, 2011
Not surprised wrote:
Lowes has been getting rid of people for a while with no reason. Firing people or writing them up over every little thing they can think of so the employee will not get unemployment.
This is so the managers can get a big $30,000+ a year bonus when the employees make low wages and some just minimum wage.
AND Lowes spends millions of dollars a year on Jimmy Johnson racing instead of treating their employees decent and paying them a fair wage.
They have gone the way of every other big business in America. Hording all the money at the top. Hate to tell them, just like the rest of corporate America, If we don't work and can afford to buy things, pretty soon they want have a job either!
If we were able to do some research you would find that most of who was being let go were the higher payed ones like me 40,000 +
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#665 Feb 23, 2011
[QUOTE who="lowes ops(ASM)wife"]<quoted text>
Thanks,what is store managers 100/100 for sales & NBT? Im just happy we still get bonus :-) it could be worse.[/QUOTE]What do you think the percentage of white males were let go 90%?
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#666 Feb 23, 2011
cazman wrote:
<quoted text>
I tend to agree. It sucks and I was fortunate enough to stay put but if I put myself in a position where I could have been let go then that's a me problem. Lowes's did not screw these people completly, they get their yearly bonus, essentially a 2 month severeance, they're rehireable with preferance and also offered job assistance. Does it make it any better? Probably not but fact is Lowe's tried to make the best of a shitty situation.
Yes I woulda been pissed but with bonus and severence my mentality would be this...I'll take 20k and unemployment and enjoy some lost time with my family.
Lowes created the problem stupid ass
former manager

Saint Louis, MO

#667 Feb 23, 2011
downtown1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Our employees do have the opportunity to earn bonuses, albeit the bonuses are higher as you climb the ranks. That is one incentive to develop and rise to a higher position. Also, trying to attract talented, experienced managers would be nearly impossible without a lucrative bonus option. That's the way people in our profession get paid and it's for good reason. If I want that extra $20 or $30,000 every year, I am going to be focused on it pretty hard. Honestly the amount of bonus that we have on the line is about the smallest that I have had in the last 10 or 15 years with other companies. That's just a byproduct of the economy and a reality that we have to face, but for a company to do as you suggest and divvy up our bonuses among the associates not only smacks of socialism but would drive all the professional managers to another company.
And how do we know that their income is not going down? Just like our new bonus program is smaller, so is the store managers. I don't have details on the districts and above, but it wouldn't suprise me if they lost some % as well. And remember it's all theoretical until you earn it. With the store performances this past year, a lot of DM's are not going to bonus well compared to pervious years.
How many of us are going to get what we did last year?
Hate to burst your bobble your sales has little to do with your job performanc and more to do with location housing markets economy,it doesnt mater how well you help someone if they dont have money to spend ,i have been in this industry since 1979 some stores do well no matter who you have running them and same with bad ones.

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