Lowes bigtime layoffs full time emplo...
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Lake Oswego, OR

#265 Jan 26, 2011
Union YES!
peter

United States

#266 Jan 26, 2011
confused wrote:
if lowes continues to treat employees like this and that, all that really won't make sense unless all that has taken place first happens last.
What? I tried real hard to figure out what this means but I just can't. I understand hitting the bottle if you got let go...just don't drive, ok?
Friend

Burbank, CA

#267 Jan 26, 2011
Get over it wrote:
<quoted text>
How do YOU know he worked his ass off? Because he told you so? Oh brother!!
Get Over It, you are a jack ass. I can't wait until its your time baby.
No Mo

AOL

#268 Jan 26, 2011
The HR's should be the ones loosing their jobs. In all the Lowes I have worked in,the HR'S act like you are bothering them. And they are LAZY !!!.I worked for Lowes for 11 years and was written up for bogus infractions that nobody I know was ever written up for.They want customer focus all the time !!! But where is employee focus ???, Now I see , its NO WHERE !!!!
No Mo

AOL

#269 Jan 26, 2011
I hope the fathead mgr in the store I was in looses his job. I can only hope for justice !!!
No Mo

AOL

#270 Jan 26, 2011
And yes I was terminated and was a CSA IV
Lowes Employee

Richmond, VA

#271 Jan 27, 2011
mark wrote:
This sounds like what they did at circuit city.I guess now i'll drive 35 miles to the nearest Home depot.No more Lowes.I worked for baby bell for 39 yrs , i know what it's like when the layoffs come. Not good for morale at any age. Sorry for the folks that had to go home.May you all prosper in your life.
I have worked for Circuit City and felt the heat and now I work for Lowes. Is this de ja vu???
Roswell

Brooklyn, NY

#272 Jan 27, 2011
Latino wrote:
Is it possible only minorities got fired?...research...
Ive been having issues for awhile now. Started going to my HR long ago and finally to my SM in April of last year... My most recent issue occurred on 12/13... that is when I emailed my AHR and finally called the ethics number. Apparently they did not care to help. I am more knowledgeable and more dedicated than most of them. I never had a problem with them calling me at home for my help. I guess they will figure it out on their own now. The severance doesn't even cover the hours over scheduled that I stayed so many times... And nothing could cover the time lost with my children.
Roswell

Brooklyn, NY

#273 Jan 27, 2011
Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Over It, you are a jack ass. I can't wait until its your time baby.
There are far too many people that are consistently stating the hardworking got the boot....those who knew where to keep their heads are still there.... Happened in my store too. It could not be more obvious when I am reading and relating to everyone here. Lowe's does not stand for what they state they do, that is for sure.
Roswell

Brooklyn, NY

#274 Jan 27, 2011
No Mo wrote:
The HR's should be the ones loosing their jobs. In all the Lowes I have worked in,the HR'S act like you are bothering them. And they are LAZY !!!.I worked for Lowes for 11 years and was written up for bogus infractions that nobody I know was ever written up for.They want customer focus all the time !!! But where is employee focus ???, Now I see , its NO WHERE !!!!
Sooo true... It all depends on who management decides to "performance manage out" that week. I was in senior management and I can say on a daily basis these guys bashed the associates they did not like, held them back and wrote them up for whatever they could get them on... All the while not even seeing the infractions that were going on with those they liked and even among themselves.
Roswell

Brooklyn, NY

#275 Jan 27, 2011
Now wrote:
Union YES!
That would be their worst fear come true... All the money spent training management to keep it from happening!!
Roswell

Brooklyn, NY

#276 Jan 27, 2011
Brad-Commer Sales Customr wrote:
I am really sorry for all you wonderful Lowe's employees. I shop at Lowe's 2 to 3 times a week. The two zone mgrs. that the Cranberry, Pa. store released were very hard working individuals. Having been in the store so often, I feel a lot of the employees are more like friends than store associates. From what I understand, one of the zone mgrs. had been with the company nearly 14 years and had accumulated nearly 1,000 hours of sick time which he will supposedly lose and not be paid for. I am contemplating closing my commercial sales account because of this layoff --- although I will have to really think about that. I don't want to hurt the remaining employees whom I also care for and I must say I prefer shopping at Lowe's v. Home Depot. I wish you all well in your new endeavors. I lost my job previously working for a bank at a very senior level. It does happen, and there is always light at the end of every tunnel. God bless.
There are so many great customers like you. I will truly miss all of the interactions I shared with customers and my associates... Your concern for the associates that remain is genuine and very kind but apparently the customer you have been to Lowe's did not help them before and I am sad to say that all of the loyal customers can not keep Lowes from doing this again to the rest of them. Keep in mind the longer someone was there the more money they made....loyalty had nothing to do with their choices of who to keep... only money
No Mo

AOL

#277 Jan 27, 2011
David123 wrote:
As one of the managers that have been involved in this layoff, it is a business decision. Lowes could have closed down low volume stores causing certain towns/cities to lose there jobs. This is a way for the company to keep all stores open and have the job loses spread out across the company. If you still have a job at Lowes feel thankful and continue to do the best that you can. If you are no longer employed with Lowes, reapply for other positions at Lowes or competitors. We will all make it through this awful situation. If you lost your job, I pray you and your family stay strong, your life will rebound. If you still have a job, do everything you can do to help this company rebound and regain what it has lost. There is no happpy ending to this comment.
I'm sorry I disagree with you. If all upper managament would have forgone their bonuses and or taken a pay cut maybe so many would not have to have been terminated or laid off. Maybe you should have lost YOUR job !!!
Joe

Philadelphia, PA

#278 Jan 27, 2011
Lowes is ridiculous. I can understand the concept of wanting to increase your bottom line and being competitive, this all makes sense. However, if you want to increase your bottom line then perhaps they should concentrate on cutting expenses, and by expenses I do not mean peoples jobs.

Why does Lowes donate 10 million each year to the African American college fund? Why do they pay god only knows how much money to transport the Jimmy Johnson race care from Las Vegas to the east coast just to sit in stores parking lots? Do they think this actually attracts business? No! They are making all of these changes to cut costs, increase the bottom line and keep the shareholders happy. Well, I can tell you that as a Stock trader AND shareholder it really baffles me. Lowes is going to basically fire those employees whom know how to run the store and hire part-time employees who know nothing about the business. I sold my stock today and will never shop at a Lowes again.

Also, it seems to be that Lowes is constantly following in Home Depots foot steps. Depot did almost this same exact thing just a few years ago, yea it made the shareholders happy but customers did not react the same way. Seems as though Lowes does not know how to stand on their own two feet or for that matter know how to make their own business decisions and for that exact reason is why Lowes will always be the 2nd largest home improvement retailer.
Former Sales Mgr

Deerfield Beach, FL

#279 Jan 27, 2011
keith wrote:
So many of you are posting and hitching and don't even know the facts. I am a zone and was obviously in the meetings. I don't think eveyone is in a position to say it was based on cennections or that the ones let go were perfect. Hourly associates may like a manager but that doesn't mean he was good for the team. Spouses are saying their husbands were great but how do you know- you don't always know what they were lacking. Sure, some of the wrong choices were probably made but it's a big company. Overall in this town, they did ok. Those let go were a mix of young and old, new and tenured, etc. It sucks anytime payoffs happen and it has happened to me in the past so I feel their pain. But a lot was in employee files that people weren't privy to and they also had to look at ethics and attributes, much as if they were making hiring decisions. So what I see here is a lot of anger and bitching from people who lost friends and don't really have enough facts to support their opinions.
Okay Keith, here are some facts for you;
I was in the meetings too.
I've been with Lowes for 4 years. I started as a sales specialist. After a year I was promoted to Department Mgr and then Installed Sales Mgr. After taking MTP I was promoted directly from Install Mgr OVER Zone mgr into a Sales Mgr position. In other words; In my first 2.5 yrs I was promoted 3 times (up 4 levels) and given 4 raises (was given a bump from dept mgr to install mgr). I was apparently thought highly of and was doing my job well.

Over the last 18 mos as sales mgr I've trained 3 DMIS for the district, won "Most Improved" customer focus 2 of the first 3 quarters and the store is making budget. During my time at Lowes I had never received a single write up, called out sick once, and worked 60 hours a week. Every review I've had, including my most recent PDP which I still have a copy of rated me above a 3 with individual comments about how order managment & specialist team are better managed then a year ago.

I was let got Tuesday, like so many others. The only reason I was given was "restructuring". I asked my store mgr who made the decision that I would get the short straw I was told that I could not have that information. I called my dist mgr (hasn't returned my call) and area & regional HR. The HR mgrs all tell me the same thing "this decision was *NOT* performance based, it was made at the corporate level". Nobody will tell me who made the decision or what it was based on.

Why am I bothering to tell you this? Catharsis mostly, but also a warning to current Lowest employees. By every measurable criteria I was properly & professionally doing my job. My career was ended by people who never met me for reasons nobody can tell me. I'm not saying Lowes is "evil" or "bad". I'm saying they are scary and professionally unprofessional in this respect. There is a coordinated corporate plan in place to release people from their careers (CAREERS, not JOBS) without telling them why they were chosen. I don't think I'm saying anything too crazy or fringe when I say that should scare the heck out of you. I know that companies have the right to do that, but you work for a company that is willing to exercise that right (and not all of them are). Tomorrow, next month or in 2 years you can be out on the street with no warning & no cause. They'll rename the ASM position to "Section Manager", change one line of the job description, and the next thing you know the Regional HR manager is telling you that you were a good manager and it's not performance based.

How can anybody trust & be loyal to a company like that?
I am so sorry

Sonora, CA

#280 Jan 27, 2011
Former Sales Mgr wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay Keith, here are some facts for you;
I was in the meetings too.
I've been with Lowes for 4 years. I started as a sales specialist. After a year I was promoted to Department Mgr and then Installed Sales Mgr. After taking MTP I was promoted directly from Install Mgr OVER Zone mgr into a Sales Mgr position. In other words; In my first 2.5 yrs I was promoted 3 times (up 4 levels) and given 4 raises (was given a bump from dept mgr to install mgr). I was apparently thought highly of and was doing my job well.
Over the last 18 mos as sales mgr I've trained 3 DMIS for the district, won "Most Improved" customer focus 2 of the first 3 quarters and the store is making budget. During my time at Lowes I had never received a single write up, called out sick once, and worked 60 hours a week. Every review I've had, including my most recent PDP which I still have a copy of rated me above a 3 with individual comments about how order managment & specialist team are better managed then a year ago.
I was let got Tuesday, like so many others. The only reason I was given was "restructuring". I asked my store mgr who made the decision that I would get the short straw I was told that I could not have that information. I called my dist mgr (hasn't returned my call) and area & regional HR. The HR mgrs all tell me the same thing "this decision was *NOT* performance based, it was made at the corporate level". Nobody will tell me who made the decision or what it was based on.
Why am I bothering to tell you this? Catharsis mostly, but also a warning to current Lowest employees. By every measurable criteria I was properly & professionally doing my job. My career was ended by people who never met me for reasons nobody can tell me. I'm not saying Lowes is "evil" or "bad". I'm saying they are scary and professionally unprofessional in this respect. There is a coordinated corporate plan in place to release people from their careers (CAREERS, not JOBS) without telling them why they were chosen. I don't think I'm saying anything too crazy or fringe when I say that should scare the heck out of you. I know that companies have the right to do that, but you work for a company that is willing to exercise that right (and not all of them are). Tomorrow, next month or in 2 years you can be out on the street with no warning & no cause. They'll rename the ASM position to "Section Manager", change one line of the job description, and the next thing you know the Regional HR manager is telling you that you were a good manager and it's not performance based.
How can anybody trust & be loyal to a company like that?
Up until I read this I had no idea. I'm really sorry! I work for Lowe's and I still have my job. Our ops manager has his as a zone and the admin has his as a zone and our sales manager has his as a zone. We lost only one zone and he deserved it, so I based this layoff from only my perspective. He deserved it and I'm glad! Now, because I read this I opened my eyes and I really am sorry for those of you that had their hearts and ethics in the right places. I know that I work with moral and ethics and I tell people all the time, I give Lowe's more freebies than they'll ever give me. Good luck to you, may the ones that deserve prosper and find better "careers" than the one they got laid off from.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Freeport, ME

#281 Jan 27, 2011
Spoke to a sm that I trust... told me that the decisions were made by the ahrm dm rvp level but doubted that the rvp had any valid input (the only thing our RVP knows is the location of every mcdonalds in region 18). From what this sm heard from his dm the factor was "job fit" they didnt want the best senior manager, they wanted who would make the best department manager, the current department managers will soon be transitioned back to a "team leader" like role.

GIVE ME AN L
GIVE ME AN O
GIVE ME AN S
GIVE ME AN E
GIVE ME AN R
GIVE ME AN S

WHATS THAT SPELL?? LOSERS!!!!

WHO IS #2 LOWES!
Former Sales Mgr wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay Keith, here are some facts for you;
I was in the meetings too.
I've been with Lowes for 4 years. I started as a sales specialist. After a year I was promoted to Department Mgr and then Installed Sales Mgr. After taking MTP I was promoted directly from Install Mgr OVER Zone mgr into a Sales Mgr position. In other words; In my first 2.5 yrs I was promoted 3 times (up 4 levels) and given 4 raises (was given a bump from dept mgr to install mgr). I was apparently thought highly of and was doing my job well.
Over the last 18 mos as sales mgr I've trained 3 DMIS for the district, won "Most Improved" customer focus 2 of the first 3 quarters and the store is making budget. During my time at Lowes I had never received a single write up, called out sick once, and worked 60 hours a week. Every review I've had, including my most recent PDP which I still have a copy of rated me above a 3 with individual comments about how order managment & specialist team are better managed then a year ago.
I was let got Tuesday, like so many others. The only reason I was given was "restructuring". I asked my store mgr who made the decision that I would get the short straw I was told that I could not have that information. I called my dist mgr (hasn't returned my call) and area & regional HR. The HR mgrs all tell me the same thing "this decision was *NOT* performance based, it was made at the corporate level". Nobody will tell me who made the decision or what it was based on.
Why am I bothering to tell you this? Catharsis mostly, but also a warning to current Lowest employees. By every measurable criteria I was properly & professionally doing my job. My career was ended by people who never met me for reasons nobody can tell me. I'm not saying Lowes is "evil" or "bad". I'm saying they are scary and professionally unprofessional in this respect. There is a coordinated corporate plan in place to release people from their careers (CAREERS, not JOBS) without telling them why they were chosen. I don't think I'm saying anything too crazy or fringe when I say that should scare the heck out of you. I know that companies have the right to do that, but you work for a company that is willing to exercise that right (and not all of them are). Tomorrow, next month or in 2 years you can be out on the street with no warning & no cause. They'll rename the ASM position to "Section Manager", change one line of the job description, and the next thing you know the Regional HR manager is telling you that you were a good manager and it's not performance based.
How can anybody trust & be loyal to a company like that?
jessabelle

Gray, GA

#282 Jan 27, 2011
I am so sorry wrote:
<quoted text>
Up until I read this I had no idea. I'm really sorry! I work for Lowe's and I still have my job. Our ops manager has his as a zone and the admin has his as a zone and our sales manager has his as a zone. We lost only one zone and he deserved it, so I based this layoff from only my perspective. He deserved it and I'm glad! Now, because I read this I opened my eyes and I really am sorry for those of you that had their hearts and ethics in the right places. I know that I work with moral and ethics and I tell people all the time, I give Lowe's more freebies than they'll ever give me. Good luck to you, may the ones that deserve prosper and find better "careers" than the one they got laid off from.
know what you mean. I too am senior management, in a small store. we lost no one either, thank God, but several stores in area did. One mgr. had just bought a house. No one at our store knew,well maybe the sm, that 1700 lost their jobs until we started getting calls from friends, family in other areas. this crap was presented to a lot of us as hey, the ops and sales lost their "title", but they are taking a pay cut, and becoming asm's. we didnt find out the real truth till later.

I agree with many of the posts hre. If money and controlling expenses WAS the factor for all this, why still have the bear and bitches party in vegas, why buy pda's for the sms, and on and on.

if you are good with the net, surf around and check out sites that show you insider trading for lowes stock. you will be surprised to see who is getting big bucks in stock options given to them, and who is starting to sell them now that the stock is up.
Chris

Pueblo, CO

#283 Jan 27, 2011
loyal wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm with you on that!!!!
My child just asked me.... Why would LOWES get rid of GOOD PEOPLE? that makes no sense.... you need a union... they wouldn't go for that..... from the mouth of minors....
sad when a CHILD understands how improtant it is to have GOOD PEOPLE and yet CORP doesn't.....
I KNOW ALL OF MY MANAGERS WERE GREAT! and that leaves the rest of us to wonder who's next? and for the prior post on "loss" unsure where you got your info but weve done WELL THIS YEAR. AGAIN I say to all managers, I'm sorry for the pain that LOWES has caused you and your families.
I also work for Lowes and have been with them for over 14 yrs. I am no one important there so I think my job is safe. But my heart goes out to everyone that lost their jobs, NOW is not the time for corportate to let people go. I cant imagine what the families will do without the income & insurance. We lost two fantastic people at our store and I have never cried so much in my life when I found out. This is all so unfair and with NO WARNING!!!! I am so sorry for everyone that lost their jobs...I hope everyone finds something and soon, Good Luck everyone.....and I might not know you but I already miss everyone :(
Survivor

South San Francisco, CA

#284 Jan 27, 2011
Roswell wrote:
<quoted text>
Sooo true... It all depends on who management decides to "performance manage out" that week. I was in senior management and I can say on a daily basis these guys bashed the associates they did not like, held them back and wrote them up for whatever they could get them on... All the while not even seeing the infractions that

were going on with those they liked and even among themselves.
I DO know this is absolutely TRUE. They would bash hourly associates behind closed doors and tell us that we need to just get rid of them. They would write the ones they don't like up and let others slide on the same thing. Associates knew this and are waiting for the AHRM to walk in to spill the beans. They were not consistent and there is solid proof of this. HR's and SM's better be prepared to answer. I'm sure they did the same behind our backs. I'm one of the managers that would refuse to write my associates up if another associate got away with the same thing. I wish someone had the backbone to stand up for us.

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