Fixed Schedules?
Sly

Alabaster, AL

#1 Sep 23, 2012
I won't go into detail, but there are studies after studies showing the dangers and health risks of doing shift work like we do. If our stores were staffed as they should be, having each associate a set work time would be very beneficial to all employees and the company as a whole. The way I see it, it should look like this:
Part time CSAs close. They are either A) students, or B) have a day job. So this is a no brainer.
Full time CSAs open.
Specialists work mid-shift during peak selling hours. They are responsible and held accountable for sales, so why have they working early morning hours or late nights when there is no one to sell to?
DMs work 7-4 or 8-5 depending on coverage, with one closing shift a week. This way they get there after freight and IRPs are mostly complete (which shouldn't need managed), and are available during the middle of the day. This way, they can keep associates on task based on the needs of the department. On slow days, the DMs can delegate downstocking, clean up, zoning, etc. During times of heavy customer traffic, they can coach associates and drive sales. There is little point to a manager opening or closing, as there is simply nothing to manage.
Sly

Alabaster, AL

#2 Sep 23, 2012
Oh, and this "open>off>close " business is for the birds. Closed Saturday until 11 pm, in bed around 2 am after getting home and settled, sleep until 10 ish, and here I sit nearly 2 am before my opening shift unable to sleep because I only had one day to adjust to my new sleep/wake patter...which changes again to closing in two days
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#3 Sep 24, 2012
They shouldn't close and then open. But I wouldn't argue that part time csa's should close only.

Only full timers have open availibility.

Since: Oct 11

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#4 Sep 24, 2012
nedm wrote:
They shouldn't close and then open. But I wouldn't argue that part time csa's should close only.
Only full timers have open availibility.
Open availability meaning what? They work whenever the store needs them meaning their schedule could change-no rotation you can count on so you can plan family events, doctor's visits etc.

No thanks-I don't mind working varied schedules but I want to be able to count on the fact that in 3 weeks I have certain days off. We are employees, associates, not slaves. The way it is now one cannot make a living on what they pay and you cannot get a 2nd job because of the Lowes schedules.
Bird

Mount Morris, MI

#5 Sep 24, 2012
You are right Sly, it has been proven time and time again that people who work in jobs with constantly changing shifts are succeptable to especially a higher instance of diabetes. A little off subject, but sleep is mostly our body's way to clean toxins from our brain. These toxins are a by product of chemical reactions in our brains caused by thoughts, emotions, body movements, etc. There is a sleep disorder where a person's on/off switch, in the hypothalamus, is eroded away by prions, and people are no longer able to go to sleep whatsoever. You should see what a person looks like after being up for two to three months straight. The diesease is ultimately fatal, of course, as the person is never capable of going to sleep again. It's a real eye opener to show you what sleep deprivation can do in extreme circumstances. One can only imagine that going through sleep deprivation over and over again for a period of years, due to erratic scheduling and "Clopens", only causes some of the same reactions in our bodies, on a smaller, less noticable scale.

Also, once our body has been deprived of sleep for so long, our cells start to become insulin resistant, meaning we are not able to use the energy our body is creating. Sounds scary, huh. Just remember all of this the next time Lowe's schedules you for a "Clopen". I know working here for the over 7 years that I have, has really messed up my sleep patterns. My body has trained itself to grab sleep whenever it can. If I sit down to watch a little TV, etc, I find myself dozing off. When I open, I find myslef exhausted and reaching for the bed as soon as I hit the door. I like your scheduling ideas, at least they would be a start, and nobody says they couldn't be tinkered with further.
Spanish Mike Alvarez

Coplay, PA

#6 Sep 24, 2012
As an hourly employee at Lowe's, you are not looked upon as a human being, you are just a number in an accountant's (Niblock's) ledger.

The accountant does not know your name, your family, your life circumstances and really doesn't care.

Like an old worn out delivery truck or forklift, you are replaceable once you have been run into the ground and can no longer perform.

And it's not just Lowe's, it's many businesses. In this economy, they can get away with just about anything.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#7 Sep 24, 2012
"Open availability meaning what? They work whenever the store needs them meaning their schedule could change-no rotation you can count on so you can plan family events, doctor's visits etc."

Well certainly that's the big question. I mean lowes has to file their taxes on a certain date for the 10k's. If there was a fire and lowes had to resort to using a fire department and it rotated (which some do between firehouses) then it would be a tad ironic

Lowes is Ok for part time work but for full time forget it. The best advice I'd say is save up a bit. Go part time and then find something full time.
Dmxmd

Gardner, KS

#8 Sep 24, 2012
nedm wrote:
"Open availability meaning what? They work whenever the store needs them meaning their schedule could change-no rotation you can count on so you can plan family events, doctor's visits etc."
Well certainly that's the big question. I mean lowes has to file their taxes on a certain date for the 10k's. If there was a fire and lowes had to resort to using a fire department and it rotated (which some do between firehouses) then it would be a tad ironic
Lowes is Ok for part time work but for full time forget it. The best advice I'd say is save up a bit. Go part time and then find something full time.
Wtf...
Not Nedm

Mooresville, NC

#9 Sep 24, 2012
nedm wrote:
"Open availability meaning what? They work whenever the store needs them meaning their schedule could change-no rotation you can count on so you can plan family events, doctor's visits etc."
Well certainly that's the big question. I mean lowes has to file their taxes on a certain date for the 10k's. If there was a fire and lowes had to resort to using a fire department and it rotated (which some do between firehouses) then it would be a tad ironic
Lowes is Ok for part time work but for full time forget it. The best advice I'd say is save up a bit. Go part time and then find something full time.
Please stop taking other people's prescription medication. It obviously isn't agreeing with your pre-existing medical condition.
Lowes-Blowes

Fredericksburg, VA

#10 Sep 25, 2012
Bird wrote:
You are right Sly, it has been proven time and time again that people who work in jobs with constantly changing shifts are succeptable to especially a higher instance of diabetes. A little off subject, but sleep is mostly our body's way to clean toxins from our brain. These toxins are a by product of chemical reactions in our brains caused by thoughts, emotions, body movements, etc. There is a sleep disorder where a person's on/off switch, in the hypothalamus, is eroded away by prions, and people are no longer able to go to sleep whatsoever. You should see what a person looks like after being up for two to three months straight. The diesease is ultimately fatal, of course, as the person is never capable of going to sleep again. It's a real eye opener to show you what sleep deprivation can do in extreme circumstances. One can only imagine that going through sleep deprivation over and over again for a period of years, due to erratic scheduling and "Clopens", only causes some of the same reactions in our bodies, on a smaller, less noticable scale.
Also, once our body has been deprived of sleep for so long, our cells start to become insulin resistant, meaning we are not able to use the energy our body is creating. Sounds scary, huh. Just remember all of this the next time Lowe's schedules you for a "Clopen". I know working here for the over 7 years that I have, has really messed up my sleep patterns. My body has trained itself to grab sleep whenever it can. If I sit down to watch a little TV, etc, I find myself dozing off. When I open, I find myslef exhausted and reaching for the bed as soon as I hit the door. I like your scheduling ideas, at least they would be a start, and nobody says they couldn't be tinkered with further.
I agree with you. I am now at the point all I do is sleep when I'm home. No energy to cook, or do things with my kids. It's very sad. I told my department manager, I will open then close the next day but if he scheduled me to close then open, I will be coming in late.
Doctor Mike Alvarez

Coplay, PA

#11 Sep 25, 2012
Lowes-Blowes wrote:
I am now at the point all I do is sleep when I'm home. No energy to cook, or do things with my kids. It's very sad.
It's cheaper just to take the kids to McDonald's and let them order off the dollar menu.
Let them go crazy in the play area while you doze in the booth.
Then just have the doctor prescribe them some statins once you put them on that diet.
lowesjoes

Carlisle, PA

#12 Oct 3, 2012
wonder if niblock works he "corporate" schedule?
Fired

Booneville, KY

#13 Oct 6, 2012
Don't forget to check the labor laws in your state. Some state that you cannot be forced to work 7 days in a row or on Sunday. If workers spoke up where the have the law then the corporate schedule would have to be changed. It's a start.
Spanish Mike Alvarez

Coplay, PA

#14 Oct 7, 2012
lowesjoes wrote:
wonder if niblock works he "corporate" schedule?
Yeah he does. They are open 8-5 mon-fri, closed most holidays. Same as your local bank.
Cuban Mike Alvarez

Mooresville, NC

#15 Oct 7, 2012
Spanish Mike Alvarez wrote:
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Yeah he does. They are open 8-5 mon-fri, closed most holidays. Same as your local bank.
I'll bet you're a fat little bastard aren't you? Don't know when to get up from the table, do you little guy?

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