Ya Gotta be Kiddin' me....
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Since: Jan 13

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#1 Jan 23, 2013
So, this morning I'm hustling through Receiving and there is a chunk of a pallet lying in the floor with a nail pointing up. As I was carrying an armload of cardboard, I didn't see it, and you guessed it, got that nail right through my foot, bottom to top.
Well, I got sent to the HR, who proceeds to administer a drug test. I asked if she was checking to see if I was high and purposely hurt myself, and in my opinion, the time would be better served if they were to test the people in Receiving to find who was doped up enough to leave a dangerous thing like this lying in the floor.
That didn't go over too well. I took the test, went to the Dr. and when I came back, the SM decided to tell me I was out of line.
So, now I have a target painted on the back of my little red vest, but I was wise enough to photograph the offending article, get copies of the accident report, Dr.s report and statement, and asked to see the results of the drug test. I'll check P&P also to see if there are any things there that I need to know.
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Lakewood, OH

#2 Jan 24, 2013
All potential worker's comp cases require a drug test. You should know this. As far as the statements, reports, etc, you basically did the job for the HR/reporting manager. HIPAA allows you copies of all Drs. reports.

Your approach to the drug test was out of line. No one is out to get you because you hurt yourself at work. There is protocol to follow and that is all that they were doing. You'll know the results of the drug test pretty clearly...you'll still be employed or you won't. Simple as that.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#3 Jan 24, 2013
Nothing wrong with asking employees to take a drug test after an accident. I've seen stoner customers walk into ladders and frankly the same is expected from them as well.

Since: Dec 12

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#4 Jan 24, 2013
Yeah, it's pretty dangerous to do drugs and work in a warehouse. An accident at any time, wether your fault or not results in a drug test. If you fail, no medical claims will be paid on your behalf and your employment will be terminated because they can claim you would have seen it and not stepped on it if you didn't have drugs in your system. That's how it is with every large employer. I heard that was the new #1 reason for involuntary unemployment in Colorado and Washington now. Employers are still following federal and OSHA laws.

Since: Jan 13

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#5 Jan 24, 2013
DMxMD wrote:
Yeah, it's pretty dangerous to do drugs and work in a warehouse. An accident at any time, wether your fault or not results in a drug test. If you fail, no medical claims will be paid on your behalf and your employment will be terminated because they can claim you would have seen it and not stepped on it if you didn't have drugs in your system. That's how it is with every large employer. I heard that was the new #1 reason for involuntary unemployment in Colorado and Washington now. Employers are still following federal and OSHA laws.
You pompous TWIT ! Your response was so predictable, you automatically assumed that I was on drugs.
No kidding drugs in a warehouse are dangerous, I'm sure that's what's happened to you at some point. I posted this to see what your response would be, with your automatic finger-pointing and Holier-Than_Everybody assumptions. A**hole
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#6 Jan 24, 2013
It isn't so much of a legality but rather is the person unable to perform work. I once worked with a guy that or some odd reason used to take percosets. Saturday was a four hour shift and he'd fall asleep midway though! Sometimes it shouldn't take an accident to be tested. I've had some coworkers that seriously drink to the point where you can smell it five feet away. Even if they aren't drunk it is unprofessional to smell that way to the customer, same if someone does like a pack of butts outside.
Randy Travis

Schnecksville, PA

#7 Jan 24, 2013
Anybody know when the bar opens round here? Preferably with a happy hour!

Since: Jan 13

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#8 Jan 24, 2013
Randy Travis wrote:
Anybody know when the bar opens round here? Preferably with a happy hour!
You live in Schmuck-Town and don't know when the bars open?

Since: Oct 11

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#9 Jan 24, 2013
many businesses will automatically drug test after an accident. If one doesn't use there is no worry. Accidents happen, that is why they are called accidents. Lowes is lucky there aren't more when you consider what delivery drivers do delivering and installing BIG refrigerators etc. And on the floor-there are lots of ways to get hurt-lifting awkward stuff, heavy cabinet boxes etc. The blue lift has helped but it has it's problems as well-it is awkward to push some stuff onto the topstock racks. But, definitely better than the ladders.

Since: Dec 12

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#10 Jan 24, 2013
Thunder Dood wrote:
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You pompous TWIT ! Your response was so predictable, you automatically assumed that I was on drugs.
No kidding drugs in a warehouse are dangerous, I'm sure that's what's happened to you at some point. I posted this to see what your response would be, with your automatic finger-pointing and Holier-Than_Everybody assumptions. A**hole
Dude, when I say "you" in a post like that, I'm talking to people in general. Not you, or I would have called you out by username. You only have something to worry about if you're on drugs. In my personal experience, the only people that ever think twice, let alone say anything negative about the drug test, are the ones that will fail and they know it.

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#11 Jan 25, 2013
DMxMD wrote:
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Dude, when I say "you" in a post like that, I'm talking to people in general. Not you, or I would have called you out by username. You only have something to worry about if you're on drugs. In my personal experience, the only people that ever think twice, let alone say anything negative about the drug test, are the ones that will fail and they know it.
An oblivious bloviator spouting the obvious.
You, for sure wear a blue vest.
Now let's see you spend the day seeing who you can discipline and start a case against to try to terminate. You sure as heck won't service any customers.
service himself

Mooresville, NC

#12 Jan 25, 2013
Yep, that's what he will do today. Have at it DMxMD.

Since: Dec 12

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#13 Jan 25, 2013
Thunder dick is obviously not on the reefer or he would not be so quick to get pissed about nothing. I would say take a chill pill, but in his case, maybe that's not a good idea.

It would be impossible to win any argument with you, simply because of my "blue vest". You obviously already stated you have no respect for management in general, your HRM, or your SM. all I can say to people like that is good luck in your future endeavors.

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#14 Jan 25, 2013
DMxMD wrote:
Thunder dick is obviously not on the reefer or he would not be so quick to get pissed about nothing. I would say take a chill pill, but in his case, maybe that's not a good idea.
It would be impossible to win any argument with you, simply because of my "blue vest". You obviously already stated you have no respect for management in general, your HRM, or your SM. all I can say to people like that is good luck in your future endeavors.
Respect is earned, Fool.
DMxMD

Laredo, TX

#15 Jan 26, 2013
Garth D wrote:
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Respect is earned, Fool.
Respect is earned, but it goes both ways. Employees who can't conform to the real world where you have to give respect to those above you on the chain, are destined to hop from shitty job to shitty job. Maybe you'll have better luck as an only employee. Try applying for the proactive cart at the mall. No wait, the sales goals would probably get you fired.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#16 Jan 26, 2013
But if a job treats someone poorly to what manner and what extent can it be said that employees will simply leave to go somewhere else?

The number of positions within the store along with various forms of training has declined. There IS less opportunity when that is coupled with the fact that there are far fewer store openings then there was before.

The majority of salary staff I find leave within two years or less, including sm's. As I said in the past the other problem with lowes is frankly relative to other chains they don't require a degree. Although that might seem nice it also means those that leave probably either have to go back to school or do something totally different, in short many salary employees are trapped.

Since: Oct 11

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#17 Jan 26, 2013
DMxMD wrote:
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Respect is earned, but it goes both ways. Employees who can't conform to the real world where you have to give respect to those above you on the chain, are destined to hop from shitty job to shitty job. Maybe you'll have better luck as an only employee. Try applying for the proactive cart at the mall. No wait, the sales goals would probably get you fired.
Respect goes both ways---if management wants respect they need to practice it. They need to practice what may not be given to them to earn it. What is missing is genuine appreciation by management of their employees. Being appreciative is more than standing up at the morning meaning and saying "thanks for all you do," to the group. It is walking around catching people doing things right and telling them to their face. It doesn't take any skill, guts or anything to give the group thanks-it takes guts and your time to walk around talking to your employees.

When I was a manager I made it a point to everyday walk around and talk to my employees-I might have to come in in the evening or a Sat. to finish my work because of the time I spent on the floor but it was worth it. Your employees are your most valuable resource and they should be treated that way.

Lowes management is too busy doing the corporate tasks to understand and practice this. Corporate has them doing stupid things like IRP verification etc.
SPAMIKALV

Schnecksville, PA

#18 Jan 27, 2013
Pedro Rodriquez wrote:
When I was a manager I made it a point to everyday walk around and talk to my employees-I might have to come in in the evening or a Sat. to finish my work because of the time I spent on the floor but it was worth it.
And look where all that got you. On Topix bitchin about your job at Lowe's claiming your are being underutilized and a victim of age discrimination.

Pedro, things are not the same as the old days. Unless you are a jackal you won't make it in Lowe's mgt today.

Since: Oct 11

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#19 Jan 27, 2013
SPAMIKALV wrote:
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And look where all that got you. On Topix bitchin about your job at Lowe's claiming your are being underutilized and a victim of age discrimination.
Pedro, things are not the same as the old days. Unless you are a jackal you won't make it in Lowe's mgt today.
Spanky-you need to go back to Hormels to your Spam-motel. Disagreeing with Lowes is "bitching". I will never be in management at Lowes and that is ok. I am not sure I could work with the SM/corporate-too many philosophical differences of opinions.

There are plenty of disappointed people at Lowes-some is justifiable and others not. If Lowes cared they would listen and look for common threads throughout the corporation and fix the biggest complaints. Instead they are like you who see every complaint as a "bitch" and won't do a thing about anything. Voice team is a perfect example, they have the mechanism to change but they don't utilize it.
SPAMIKALV

Schnecksville, PA

#20 Jan 27, 2013
Pedro Rodriquez wrote:
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Spanky-you need to go back to Hormels to your Spam-motel. Disagreeing with Lowes is "bitching". I will never be in management at Lowes and that is ok. I am not sure I could work with the SM/corporate-too many philosophical differences of opinions.
There are plenty of disappointed people at Lowes-some is justifiable and others not. If Lowes cared they would listen and look for common threads throughout the corporation and fix the biggest complaints. Instead they are like you who see every complaint as a "bitch" and won't do a thing about anything. Voice team is a perfect example, they have the mechanism to change but they don't utilize it.
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"Here's A Quarter Call Someone Who Cares"

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