Force Managers to Transfer To Other Stores

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Joe Jones

United States

#1 Jul 16, 2012
Why is Lowes forcing managers to transfer to stores just to learn different departments? They told them they could make them go to a store up to 30 mile further that the store they work at without paying them mileage...What a crappy way to treat your managers........Every store has the same departments....Want to teach managers other departments..Do it in the same store they work in..

How could you be so insensitive in these hard economic times...

They must want to pick a fight with the management?
nedm

Bridgewater, MA

#2 Jul 16, 2012
Huh? Are they paying for travel or gas on this? That's quite a bit away.
Joe Jones

United States

#3 Jul 16, 2012
No compensation......
Bright Eyes

Moorestown, NJ

#4 Jul 16, 2012
They don't want managers to become comfortable with other employees. It's a way o keep them honest.
OhNoHeDidnt

Lakewood, OH

#5 Jul 16, 2012
This isn't happening in all markets, it was up to the decision of the Market Director. I have friends that will not be transferring locations but rotating within their store and friends that will be moving from store to store. It really isn't all that bad in a major urban market where there may be a dozen stores within an hour from one end to the other.
Joe Jones

Williamston, SC

#6 Jul 16, 2012
OhNoHeDidnt wrote:
This isn't happening in all markets, it was up to the decision of the Market Director. I have friends that will not be transferring locations but rotating within their store and friends that will be moving from store to store. It really isn't all that bad in a major urban market where there may be a dozen stores within an hour from one end to the other.
Guess that's OK for close stores but to have to drive 30 miles further one way is asking a lot!. 60 miles a day.. Friend lives 1.5 miles from his store and now he has to add 27 mile a day to the commute!
To the reply about keeping them honest? If you don't trust your managers then you have the wrong people in place!...

Since: Oct 11

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#7 Jul 16, 2012
Bright Eyes wrote:
They don't want managers to become comfortable with other employees. It's a way o keep them honest.
They don't want their managers to build trust and repore-what a way to manage people-their most valuable resource. In the economic times we are in they can do whatever they want because jobs are scarce. Sad
DMxMD

Kansas City, KS

#8 Jul 16, 2012
No... The problem is, before they had no ability to move ASMs when there was a business need. Now there's a process for that. They also had no qualified bench of future SMs because every ASM just stayed in their same position and store forever, never learning to run the whole store, different people, or how different stores do things. This will help ASMs gain a new perspective and new skills. It's a good thing.

I was told in my district it was like the NFL draft. SMs had to be willing to take some bad ones from another location if they wanted to keep a star player, or in some cases give up their star player to another store in Exchange for a couple medeocre ones to balance out their teams.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#9 Jul 16, 2012
When you mean "managers" what level are we talking about here? ASM's can move with easy. Department managers not as much. Back in the day I had a sm from south west CT and corporate put him up in a apartment in order to work. Every three weeks he'd have two days off to go back.
Joe Jones

United States

#10 Jul 17, 2012
The person I'm speaking of has been in four different stores and waited 7 years to get closer to home. They have ran three different departments. You can't tell me it is wise to move them just to get them the few additional department training, when in fact it can be completed in the current store.

Promotion I can understand a move.....
DMxMD

United States

#11 Jul 17, 2012
Joe Jones wrote:
The person I'm speaking of has been in four different stores and waited 7 years to get closer to home. They have ran three different departments. You can't tell me it is wise to move them just to get them the few additional department training, when in fact it can be completed in the current store.
Promotion I can understand a move.....
If all that is true, it honestly kinda sounds like they're purposefully trying to make them want to quit. They had to know where he lived. Around here they didn't do that to anyone. A few people moved store to store, but not the majority.
FormerSM

Chicago, IL

#12 Jul 17, 2012
DMxMD wrote:
No... The problem is, before they had no ability to move ASMs when there was a business need. Now there's a process for that. They also had no qualified bench of future SMs because every ASM just stayed in their same position and store forever, never learning to run the whole store, different people, or how different stores do things. This will help ASMs gain a new perspective and new skills. It's a good thing.
I was told in my district it was like the NFL draft. SMs had to be willing to take some bad ones from another location if they wanted to keep a star player, or in some cases give up their star player to another store in Exchange for a couple medeocre ones to balance out their teams.
Stop the debate. MD is correct. His explanation is spot on. Read it once , twice , three times so you all understand. I'm blessed to have friends in high places who have validated this scenario ....
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#13 Jul 17, 2012
"The person I'm speaking of has been in four different stores and waited 7 years to get closer to home."

No offense but if someone is a ASM or higher they pretty much get told where to go. You don't have a choice. Reminds me of a old story of a sm that got out of smtp where he applied to every store with a town of "__________ Beach" (Miami Beach, Virginia Beach etc). Supposedly they sent him to Detroit!

Sometimes SM's might be conned into things. Market managers cannot promise new stores or particular stores to new sm's. Supposedly an old sm of mine was "promised" either a new store or that he'd bonus the first year, neither happened.
Furby

Mooresville, NC

#14 Jul 17, 2012
DMxMD wrote:
. They also had no qualified bench of future SMs because every ASM just stayed in their same position and store forever, never learning to run the whole store, different people, or how different stores do things.
I have to disagree with this one. There used to be Ops Managers and the Store Manager Training Program. This prepared those who were interested. Most ASM's do not want to be SM's. Why force people into positions thay do not want? Doing so would be counter productive to morale. By changing the structure at the store level, they have actually made it more difficult to train and move those people into SM positions.
bigdawg

Anniston, AL

#15 Jul 18, 2012
FormerSM wrote:
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Stop the debate. MD is correct. His explanation is spot on. Read it once , twice , three times so you all understand. I'm blessed to have friends in high places who have validated this scenario ....
Says ALOT about the company. I believe in previous posts either to this topic or others-you stated Lowes does not target.. It may have been about older associates..but the principle is the same. Instead of addressing the issue and documenting; it's resorting to "making someone quit." No one is held accountable. From your statement it takes District or Regional to fire an ASM. If they (at the district level) use "tactics" then how is any different at the store level?

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