Is Thanksgiving next?
Lowes-Blowes

Winder, GA

#22 Sep 24, 2012
Spanish Mike Alvarez wrote:
Look at the bright side...
When Lowe's is open on Thanksgiving, the managers will be providing a free Thanksgiving dinner to the employees.
(Stouffer's frozen Turkey with Stuffing)
Enjoy the holidays!
No thanks. I will be spending it with my family.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#23 Sep 24, 2012
lb well it might be your area being different. Not all retailers operate the same way in the country. Laws vary all over the place.
Here's some alcohol laws for example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alcohol_...

Gun laws vary, knife laws very and of course building codes etc.

Heck maybe it was the sm of the store that decided to close for inventory here..I don't know but from what I know it closed for inventory. Maybe it really was "His ship" !
Lowes-Blowes

Winder, GA

#24 Sep 25, 2012
SuperFun9000 wrote:
It would be a great money loser. Nobody would come in. But I guess I would like working that day, can finally get some task done.
Tasks are not important when it comes to family time. If tasks don't get done at all, so be it. Oh well. I won't be there.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#25 Sep 25, 2012
Lowes-Blowes wrote:
<quoted text> Tasks are not important when it comes to family time. If tasks don't get done at all, so be it. Oh well. I won't be there.
I don't think many customers will either-unless they make Thanksgiving Black Thursday.
DMxMD

Gardner, KS

#26 Sep 25, 2012
Pedro Rodriquez wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think many customers will either-unless they make Thanksgiving Black Thursday.
You say that as a joke but seriously, look.st the sales last year. At the last minute it was a race to see who could advertise as opening first. Walmart had waves of sales at 12, 4, and 8(if I remember right), Target moved earlier to 4, and many other companies changed to 12 or 2 to compete. It's a matter of time until it becomes black Thursday. All we got out of things being earlier last year was a bunch of customers that were still a little drunk. That was fun on top of an already stressful day.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#27 Sep 25, 2012
But eventually there are curtails back. when people were crushed at walmart it just made things look bad. There was a best buy in puerto rico that looked a scene from the walking dead!

If lowes sold more general merchandise maybe things would be different..heck if hd did.

Hd would have to make a move here before lowes does.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#28 Sep 25, 2012
nedm wrote:
But eventually there are curtails back. when people were crushed at walmart it just made things look bad. There was a best buy in puerto rico that looked a scene from the walking dead!
If lowes sold more general merchandise maybe things would be different..heck if hd did.
Hd would have to make a move here before lowes does.
2 things-1st, let the employees enjoy a holiday with their families. Screw the possibility of some sales. How much money is enough? 2nd, get rid of the internet sales on Black Friday. By the time we opened we were already out of some merchandise-that makes customers really "happy".
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#29 Sep 25, 2012
In all honesty I've worked a few black fridays and they just aren't that busy here.

The malls get packed but that's about it. Do some make a drive to buy some tools? Maybe a few but unless it is the summer with grills and gardens or a tax free weekend the fall is dead.

Best buy, walmart, target etc those places are packed.

The busiest days I can think of would be memorial day weekend. Yes if there is winter weather or melting you'll find snow blowers, sump pumps and shopvacs flying out the door but busy as a whole during the fall/winter is rare here. 100 days of hell and that's it.
Whickerbill

Mooresville, NC

#30 Sep 25, 2012
It is the difference between being successful and greed. Both Chick-fil-a and Hobby Lobby are closed not just on holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas, but they are closed EVERY Sunday, also. Both chains are profitable and thriving.

Lowes has never been independent and creative. They have always been monkey see, monkey do.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#33 Sep 25, 2012
There is nothing wrong with working on sundays as not everyone subscribes to a certain religion.
The laws vary by state on sunday work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law

Also remember that there are plenty of professions that still work weekends. Police, fire department, plumbers etc. It's not like EVERYONE had the same day off.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#34 Sep 25, 2012
nedm wrote:
There is nothing wrong with working on sunday's as not everyone subscribes to a certain religion.
The laws vary by state on sunday work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law
Also remember that there are plenty of professions that still work weekends. Police, fire department, plumbers etc. It's not like EVERYONE had the same day off.
My point wasn't about religion-it was about working and expecting your workers to give up family days. Police, fire, medical personnel etc working on Sunday's is different-they are protecting us. Being open Sundays and holidays in the retail world is different-people would adapt if we weren't open. It is greed and wanting the dollar so that your competition doesn't get it. "How much money is enough? Just a little more." Wealthy Howard Hughes.
DMxMD

Westchester, IL

#35 Sep 25, 2012
The problem is, none of those famlies stay home on the weekends any more. They all want to go out shopping in the weekends. Hence why we in retail have to work. Blame the m-f people.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#36 Sep 26, 2012
dmx is right. If they didn't show up it wouldn't be open.

"Police, fire, medical personnel etc working on Sunday's is different-they are protecting us."

Kinda sorta. Remember police respond to crime. They cannot logically arrest people before a crime. So the act of deterrance really doesn't exist for the most part. If jail doesn't deter them then what will?

Fire departments now are about building damage. The amount of people that die due to fire has dropped significantly in the 20th century. Smoke detectors are one of the best inventions of all time. That coupled with sprinkler systems dramatically reduced fires and fire related fatalities. I know a fair amount of firefighters and frankly they wait for fires. Yes they train in the meantime but it isn't like fires break out left and right. If they mandate sprinklers in residential homes (fat chance but some local govenrment mostly likely would...SF I'm lookingat you!) then we might scale back fire fighting to a state level. Western states are different because of all of the wildfires and the amount of land owned by BLM.
Devils Fan

Rathdrum, ID

#37 Sep 26, 2012
I hope! That would be fun to sit there all day and play pocket pool at my pay! Go for it Lowes!

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#38 Sep 26, 2012
One could be open 22 hours a day and some customer would complain because you weren't open the other 2 hours. Sometimes you close for the sake of your employees and their families.

I used to have a business and I closed at 5pm-I had customers tell me they wished I would stay open in the evening so they could have a nice place to go to after a show or whatever. I tried it for several months-I wasn't making enough to cover the labor for the evening-plus, if my help couldn't work I was there. People in our town complain because downtown businesses aren't open Saturdays after 12N-but, you cannot make enough money to make it worth it besides, it kills the business owner.

There are nights and some holidays at Lowes we won't have many customers,I wonder if we make enough to cover the labor and overhead...bet we don't but we have to be open just in case that one customer drives into our lot to "shop" and maybe buy.

If all businesses closed holidays and Sunday's, customers would adapt. It is called planning and maybe instead of shopping they would do family activities or stay home and relax so they can be ready for rat race on Monday.
nedm

Bridgewater, MA

#39 Sep 26, 2012
"The Customer is always right"

Well not really. If you go to Europe that is really not the case and frankly the customer can be outright wrong if not foolish in many cases. Back long ago when there was no internet maybe they were because sales were restricted to local areas. Now that isn't the case. You can order products directly from manufactuers..and retailers can send prduct back. Heck I remember a customer that wanted a key that didn't cut right for free..um we send them back and get credit. It is a hard arguement that the company should sell half broken things.

Sometimes this is a bit of a paradox because I see plenty of businesses that are 8-5 monday to friday and don't open on weekends...why? Because they can afford to staff it more beyond what lowes does. Lowes focuses on the weekend and usually not monday-friday. But if you can take a day off chances are you'll go to them instead of lowes.
zal front load

Angola, NY

#40 Sep 26, 2012
This race to 365 tells you all you need to know about where we are as a company in paricular and society as a whole. It's pure rubbish! Not only is it bad from a quality of life/ life balances standpoint but even from a business view its quite foolish. You do realize that for decades we survived and often flourished economically with businesses being basically monday-friday with maybe a half-day saturday. Commerce went on and people planned acordingly. Ask yourself this; if its projected that 13 million automobiles will be sold in a given year and THEN the auto dealers decide...oh but we will now be open everyday, how many cars will be sold?.....STILL 13 MILLION!!!!!. I was in the auto business when it became popular to be open on sundays and all that really happened is that you spread 6 days business over 7 days...we didn't sell more. I've yet to have a customer come to me and say "we really only were going to buy 1 washer and dryer, but we were so f*ckin impressed that you were open on the 4th of july that we're going to buy 2" Foolishness. We've already ruined holdays in pursuit of the almighty dollar....as ive posted before Thanksgiving day has become nothing but a pre-game meal for black friday.
If you really HAVE to be open on holidays, at least make working it optional. There are people who would sell their souls for a buck and im sure they'll be happy to work and those with old time values can live life.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#41 Sep 26, 2012
zal front load wrote:
This race to 365 tells you all you need to know about where we are as a company in paricular and society as a whole. It's pure rubbish! Not only is it bad from a quality of life/ life balances standpoint but even from a business view its quite foolish. You do realize that for decades we survived and often flourished economically with businesses being basically monday-friday with maybe a half-day saturday. Commerce went on and people planned acordingly. Ask yourself this; if its projected that 13 million automobiles will be sold in a given year and THEN the auto dealers decide...oh but we will now be open everyday, how many cars will be sold?.....STILL 13 MILLION!!!!!. I was in the auto business when it became popular to be open on sundays and all that really happened is that you spread 6 days business over 7 days...we didn't sell more. I've yet to have a customer come to me and say "we really only were going to buy 1 washer and dryer, but we were so f*ckin impressed that you were open on the 4th of july that we're going to buy 2" Foolishness. We've already ruined holdays in pursuit of the almighty dollar....as ive posted before Thanksgiving day has become nothing but a pre-game meal for black friday.
If you really HAVE to be open on holidays, at least make working it optional. There are people who would sell their souls for a buck and im sure they'll be happy to work and those with old time values can live life.
And, for those who work, pay them time and a half or double time for their inconvenience. Buying lunch with $200 is a nice gesture but I would rather spend that lunch with my family.

It used to be if you worked holiday's it was double time-Sunday's time and a half. In their greedy way businesses pay straight time and call it part of your 40 hours. Maybe if they went back to paying double time they would realize it wasn't profitable.
lowes employee

Mooresville, NC

#42 Sep 27, 2012
LOWES BLOWS,RUN BY GREEDY CEO ROBERT NIBLOCK,WHO IS DRIVING THE COMPANY TO FAILURE,THIS PLACE IS A JOKE,WE WILL BE IN THE SEA OF SAMENESS SHORTLY
lowes employee

Mooresville, NC

#43 Sep 27, 2012
My Lowes cards what a joke,another waste of money,just like the stupid I phones that never work

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