an hr manager at lowes....just say no!!

an hr manager at lowes....just say no!!

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Jerry

Columbia, SC

#1 Apr 18, 2013
HR Managers work 55-60 hours per week and you are required to work two Saturdays a month and you are required to work until 11p.m. 5 nights per month. It is not a REAL HR MANAGER JOB. Some store managers and ASM's expect you to work a register and they are quick to resent the fact that you sit in an office...as if sitting down while working is not really work at all. On the other hand, I LOVE helping my associates. They are good people who work very hard and who are often verbally abused and sexually harassed by managers. Lowes Store Management do not value their employees and only see you as a way to get a bonus check. Employees are terrified of losing their jobs and the Market Directors come to the store and terrorize the staff. I have lost three ASM's in a year. New people are promoted, but are quickly worked like dogs.

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Matt

Johnstown, PA

#2 Apr 19, 2013
I have seen this position listed as available at about 6 Lowe's locations all less than 2 hours from where I live within the past 3 months. What is going on....are people quitting in mass numbers?
Matt

Johnstown, PA

#3 Apr 19, 2013
I don't understand how the HR Manager position is an exempt level job. It does not meet the FLSA qualifications for an exempt position. Simply giving a position the title of "manager" does not make it an exempt level position. Obvious violation of FLSA rules.
Jerry

Columbia, SC

#4 Apr 19, 2013
Matt wrote:
I have seen this position listed as available at about 6 Lowe's locations all less than 2 hours from where I live within the past 3 months. What is going on....are people quitting in mass numbers?
Yeah Jerry, same thing all over America. My market lost 11 HR Managers in one year, out of 14. I knew several who just dropped of their keys and quit. The numbers don't lie. We have had HR Managers quitting and basically raising hell at staff meetings. Managers don't care about employee relations or employee motivation....they care about sales plan and getting associates to work for as close to minimum wage as possible. They frown upon employees using sick days or filing a workers compensation claim.
Jerry

Columbia, SC

#5 Apr 19, 2013
Matt wrote:
I don't understand how the HR Manager position is an exempt level job. It does not meet the FLSA qualifications for an exempt position. Simply giving a position the title of "manager" does not make it an exempt level position. Obvious violation of FLSA rules.
HR Managers have a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.....SPREAD THE WORD...and this link:

http://www.loweshrmanagerflsaclaim.com/
What a joke

Zanesville, OH

#6 Apr 26, 2013
There is a store in our region who has had four hr managers in two years. When the pressure is on they leave unannounced. I don't know why, they work 8-5 shifts all the time and never on a Sunday. Corporate schedules are a guideline, depending on the store manager. I have never seen an hr manager work 55 to 60 hours a week.
Jerry

Columbia, SC

#7 Apr 26, 2013
What a joke wrote:
There is a store in our region who has had four hr managers in two years. When the pressure is on they leave unannounced. I don't know why, they work 8-5 shifts all the time and never on a Sunday. Corporate schedules are a guideline, depending on the store manager. I have never seen an hr manager work 55 to 60 hours a week.
Well, it's a big company and a big country. Jus cause you never seen it does not mean that it's not reality. Ever asked yourself why so many HR Managers leave?
Unhappy

Winder, GA

#8 Jun 18, 2013
Matt wrote:
I don't understand how the HR Manager position is an exempt level job. It does not meet the FLSA qualifications for an exempt position. Simply giving a position the title of "manager" does not make it an exempt level position. Obvious violation of FLSA rules.
I would like to know why lumber cashiers don't have to work nights? They seem to be exempt too.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#9 Jun 18, 2013
lumber cashiers? Cashiers where I am get rotated. Sometimes oslg, sometimes lumber, sometimes near the front etc.

Some might take it away at night to deter some theft if they try to hide it say under insulation.
DMxMD

United States

#10 Jun 18, 2013
Pro services cashiers work M-F morning shifts because contractors like to see the same person. Those cashiers are also more used to the large, hard to ring up, contractor orders, and are consistently more accurate, which reduces shrink.
ASM

Houston, TX

#11 Jun 18, 2013
As I a ASM at A 50 million dollar store I have never worked less than 55 hours a week and usually work around 60 to 70 hours. I have came in multiple times around 6AM and got off the next day at 6AM because of Market Director Visits.

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#12 Jun 18, 2013
ASM wrote:
As I a ASM at A 50 million dollar store I have never worked less than 55 hours a week and usually work around 60 to 70 hours. I have came in multiple times around 6AM and got off the next day at 6AM because of Market Director Visits.
Well your dedication is to be commended it is also stupid. I worked for a company where people gave back vacation, worked long hours and we all lost our job one day because corporate decided to close and move the operation. It did not matter the dedication, the long hours or lack of vacation-they all lost their jobs, their seniority, vacation good pay etc.

And, so it is with you. Taking time away from your family for Lowes will not benefit you in the long run. When you are on your death bed will you wish you would of spent more time at Lowes or will you regret the long hours you gave them at the expense of your family?

Hard work is great, over 40 hours is expected, but they will not be loyal to you for your extra hours over 50 hours a week.

Just my opinion, however.
jumpin ship

Taylor, MI

#13 Jun 18, 2013
Sooo..if an hr manager is moved to replace an admin.mgr. Is it considered a demotion?
DMxMD

United States

#14 Jun 18, 2013
jumpin ship wrote:
Sooo..if an hr manager is moved to replace an admin.mgr. Is it considered a demotion?
It would be a promotion that they would have to apply and interview for. HRM is a pay grade S10 and ASM is a pay grade S12.
Been there_done that

Hialeah, FL

#15 Aug 16, 2013
I agree with every ones comments on here. I could not leave that place fast enough. They overworked you and never compensated you correctly, let alone give you a thank you for staying 13 hours to finish something that had nothing to do with HR. So definitely the company has issues or their favorite word that they enjoy dropping all over the place "opportunity". If you are a seasoned HR professional I would skip this company and continue your search. But if you are in a tough financial situation definitely consider it and continue searching for other options in the meantime. Good luck and hope I was able to help you out.
DMxMD

United States

#16 Aug 16, 2013
It's retail. That's the whole problem. We have all these corporate HR types applying for what is the equivalent of a department manager. Has anyone ever done the math and realized the pay grade for HRM is exactly the same as the LP Department Manager? In fact, the same as all DM's plus 8 hours of overtime? That's right, if you account for the 8 hours of overtime a PG8 (same as every DM) DMLP is scheduled for its the exact same pay as an S10 HRM who is working 50+ hours and salaried. HR in a retail store is not going to be the same as a corporate office. The sooner they make that clear to the applicants and new ones the better. You're part if the management team. Expect to work salaried retail hours.
Home Decor Champ

Elizabeth City, NC

#17 Aug 17, 2013
I agree with DM on this one
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#18 Aug 17, 2013
"Those cashiers are also more used to the large, hard to ring up, contractor orders, and are consistently more accurate, which reduces shrink."

Funny you mention that as one long time cashier that probably saved tens of thousands if not hundreds quite a number of months ago. She had experience at hd and some contractors knew her from there (hd has a bad rap here due to the rapist contractor thing).

She quit because she was sick of trying to promote the lowes card. To judge her on that and that alone is just wrong.

Personally getting back to hr I don't see store level hr lasting that long. Call some other chains and ask them if they have store hr. It isn't anything personal but there's some positions that either need to change or be gutted. Like just what does the credit coordinator do all day? Promoting credit should not be an actual job, it should be everyones job. The one at my old store has a mini office next to deliveries the size of a bus stop. I guess she just clocks in and goes online all day.

HR tends to not last that long where I am. I think it has more turnover than the SM's. Two, maybe three years tops and they are gone.
happyhrmanager

Sacramento, CA

#20 Aug 18, 2013
To all those who are complaining about the HRM position with Lowe's. First thing, point your finger at your Store Manager. Mine treats me like a human being and that is all I ask. Each and every day he works his butt off to make sure we make SSEI so that your hourly people get paid. He takes pride in our 9 consecutive quarters of SSEI. On top of that we make our annual bonus. We are all here to get paid, that is the bottom line. If you are a corporate HRM then you most likely have no business trying to be a retail store HR. Furthermore, I spent the first sixteen years of my working life as an operations manager in retail and restaurant, with that being said the Lowe's HR schedule is a wonderful thing for me. I get to see my three children regularly every other weekend, I get tuition reimbursement, and get your facts right, the corporate schedule for an HRM is two closes per months and two 9-730's, the rest are 7am-5:30am. If you have to worry about the ASM's resenting you then you don't have any guts because you have to demand respect, not expect your title to get it for you. So before you ungrateful people start whining about 55-60 (which means you stink at your job)stand up for yourself and quit being a puss who posts on the internet like a loser. Walk into the Store Managers office and earn some respect.
Nedm

Pembroke, MA

#21 Aug 19, 2013
Well you do have to admit that there is little reason to have store level hr. How many other retailers have this?

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