Again Lowe's takes from its employee's

Again Lowe's takes from its employee's

Posted in the Lowes Companies Forum

First Prev
of 4
Next Last
Re-org 2013

Medford, MA

#1 Nov 4, 2012
Ok, here we go again, the 2013 restructure.

1. PSE takes a 20% pay cut an comm goes up to 4% just like PSI.
2. ASM's gone, new structure, has a sm and one ASM, no more zones, no HR. Department managers u have to step up.
3. Sales specilaist, allowance is gone, position disolved, u r now just a CSA, full time of course.

The result. Lowes becomes a glorified walmart of home improvement..........

If the big boys at Lowe's could comprehend, if u pay commission to ur sales staff, u will make ur sales goals. How mch longer can the big boys survive with consistent qrts of not meeting expectations, wait til this qtrs results. What is it gonna take for u to realize if you keep taking from ur employees, we will all lose..........Just saying..........I hope I am wrong
Devils Fan

Waxhaw, NC

#2 Nov 4, 2012
Re-org 2013 wrote:
Ok, here we go again, the 2013 restructure.
1. PSE takes a 20% pay cut an comm goes up to 4% just like PSI.
2. ASM's gone, new structure, has a sm and one ASM, no more zones, no HR. Department managers u have to step up.
3. Sales specilaist, allowance is gone, position disolved, u r now just a CSA, full time of course.
The result. Lowes becomes a glorified walmart of home improvement..........
If the big boys at Lowe's could comprehend, if u pay commission to ur sales staff, u will make ur sales goals. How mch longer can the big boys survive with consistent qrts of not meeting expectations, wait til this qtrs results. What is it gonna take for u to realize if you keep taking from ur employees, we will all lose..........Just saying..........I hope I am wrong
As long as I don't lose my 10% off.
DMxMD is toast

Schnecksville, PA

#3 Nov 4, 2012
Re-org 2013 wrote:
Ok, here we go again, the 2013 restructure.
1. PSE takes a 20% pay cut an comm goes up to 4% just like PSI.
2. ASM's gone, new structure, has a sm and one ASM, no more zones, no HR. Department managers u have to step up.
3. Sales specilaist, allowance is gone, position disolved, u r now just a CSA, full time of course.
The result. Lowes becomes a glorified walmart of home improvement..........
If the big boys at Lowe's could comprehend, if u pay commission to ur sales staff, u will make ur sales goals. How mch longer can the big boys survive with consistent qrts of not meeting expectations, wait til this qtrs results. What is it gonna take for u to realize if you keep taking from ur employees, we will all lose..........Just saying..........I hope I am wrong
You are not wrong.

They saw all the ASMs posting on Topix every hour of the day and realized they are not needed (i.e DMxMD in Shawnee KS).

You have him and all the loafers with the Mooresville IP to thank for this latest round of cuts.

Until they get mgt off their a..ss and off the internet, out the offices and on the floor ... the blood letting will continue.

Meanwhile back in my mom's basement, we got a mold issue due to Hurricane Sandy last week.
Product Service Position

Glendora, CA

#4 Nov 4, 2012
Is PSA position going to survive within new structure? Heard rumors, but looking for facts
DMxMD is toast

Schnecksville, PA

#5 Nov 4, 2012
Product Service Position wrote:
Is PSA position going to survive within new structure? Heard rumors, but looking for facts
Do you have your resume on Monster?

If not, get started now.

Are you sitting down?

PSE is history.
Unhappy

Winder, GA

#6 Nov 4, 2012
Lowes is digging themselves in a hole and guess what? They deseve it.
AMPM

Glendora, CA

#7 Nov 5, 2012
DMxMD is toast wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have your resume on Monster?
If not, get started now.
Are you sitting down?
PSE is history.
PSA or PSE or PSC???
Gotya

Fort Myers, FL

#8 Nov 5, 2012
Good luck your going to need it. No skills ,No sales. No inventory, just csa that don't remember what it was like to have product to sell and to enjoy selling. Sad day for Lowes.
oh boy

Mooresville, NC

#9 Nov 5, 2012
PSA .... Been working a second job and putting the money away. Every day could be the last for any of us.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#10 Nov 5, 2012
DMX just to let you know and anyone else that might lose their jobs from this it isn't your fault, it is corporate.
Curious

Atlanta, GA

#11 Nov 5, 2012
How do you know this is true
Dumb Topic

Mooresville, NC

#12 Nov 5, 2012
I can't believe this many people actually think this is true! NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING!!!
DMxMD

Kansas City, MO

#13 Nov 5, 2012
Absolutely nothing like this is happening. PSE might end up doing the higher commission, lower base thing, but that would be good for most. Everything else is bull. Even if you think it's going to become the "Walmart of home improvement", the Walmart model is CSAs, reduced dept mgrs, ASMs, Co-Mgrs, and SM. There is no way the company could do all that at once. Not with the DMs out there with no management/leadership skills. And who would transition all this with no HR? I mean its obvious not any of this can happen at the same time, and ASMs can not go away. That's impossible.
PSE

Mooresville, NC

#14 Nov 5, 2012
We just hired a new one today.

agree with "dumb topic"
Tired of the rhetoric

Mishawaka, IN

#15 Nov 5, 2012
Has anyone ever heard of 'trolls',? sure as hell sounds like trolling to me.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#16 Nov 5, 2012
DMxMD wrote:
Absolutely nothing like this is happening. PSE might end up doing the higher commission, lower base thing, but that would be good for most. Everything else is bull. Even if you think it's going to become the "Walmart of home improvement", the Walmart model is CSAs, reduced dept mgrs, ASMs, Co-Mgrs, and SM. There is no way the company could do all that at once. Not with the DMs out there with no management/leadership skills. And who would transition all this with no HR? I mean its obvious not any of this can happen at the same time, and ASMs can not go away. That's impossible.
"There is no way the company could do all that at once. Not with the DMs out there with no management/leadership skills"

You have just described our senior management team...title, yes, leadership-no. Management in name & pay only. They are successful because of the entire workforce under them.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#17 Nov 5, 2012
"Not with the DMs out there with no management/leadership skills."

Surely you don't mean that ALL dm's have no management or leadership skills right?

In terms of leadership there isn't any on retail except on the top. Management is easy, you make choices. Leaders make decisions. Managers tell people when to go on break and choose the workflow. Leaders decide what products are in that flow and the actual hours of the store.

Personally I'd say that DM's are some of the smartest people in the chain. They are about as high as you can go without going salary. You don't get shuffled around for the most part by the market manager and you can learn your product line pretty well.

"And who would transition all this with no HR? I mean its obvious not any of this can happen at the same time, and ASMs can not go away. That's impossible."

And at the same time in one year ASM's were cut and stores were closed. Impossible or improbable? There's a difference. People thought that variable overtime would last forever, that the company would open at least 80 stores a year forever, that no one would buy products online, that the housing bubble would keep going because "They aren't making land anymore!"
Johnny q

Wayzata, MN

#18 Nov 5, 2012
Dumb Topic wrote:
I can't believe this many people actually think this is true! NONE OF THIS IS HAPPENING!!!
thats what they said about spiff.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#20 Nov 5, 2012
What about all the product from Northlake resets? Who would have thought pet food, pet beds, laundry detergent, air fresheners, a line of books with magazines and a area to sit and read them, a gift card kiosk etc.

Change in companies happens gradually..and well that's what happened.

I'd hate to say I told you so but...I told you so.

If hd can be fine without a store level HR why can't lowes?

Without spiffs or sos what is the point of a specialist if they aren't at least selling a install?

What specifically can a ASM do that a dm can't? I've seen dm's have keys and be the mod, dm's using an override card with a cashier, dm's making out a schedule and worklist, dm's working on inventory prep in other stores..and the list goes on and on.

A long time ago I worked for a company that had a brooklyn office. This office decided it would go union (teamsters to be exact). We never signed a labor agreement but we gave them a few "extra" holidays. We gradually had more of the work performed by other offices to the point where we said "Well look there's no work" and we shut it down.

Here's the logical breakdown here.

To maximize revenue everyone must be able to sell everything

Since everyone can sell everything then the pay will have to become nearly equal and thus no need for specialists or for asm's.
lowes243

United States

#21 Nov 5, 2012
Does anyone else think that asm s r overpaid finger pointers that need to jump in and attck some of the workload with us. All i ever see them do 75% of the time is walking around.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 4
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Lowes Companies Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
farting in front of customers! (Feb '16) 6 hr beLOWthebelt 78
Crazy Schedule Tue whydotheydothis 3
2017 Great Year for Lowe's Tue Charlie 7
18 year Lowes employee stops theft, gets fired! (Oct '13) Dec 4 Vengeance21 36
Lowes pilot program in east coast to eliminate ... (Oct '15) Dec 4 Maybe 1,598
HATE TO SAY THIS but------ Nov 30 Joeblow79 2
told you can't leave at scheduled time? (Nov '12) Nov 29 flowergirl21 42
More from around the web