Why Lowes is what it is..
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#1 May 27, 2012
The reason why lowes is bad to work for, why conditions are pretty poor, pay is bad and bennies is mostly because...it's retail.

It isn't that hard to set up a store and frankly the majority of positions require little training/expertise (yes there is the pros but how many are there per store?). How many retail chains are there out there? Plenty. What items/services does lowes have that you cannot find at another store? Probably none since hd does just about everything lowes does. Are the items at lowes cheaper? Better hours? Selection? Website? Nope.

I have a friend who was a sociology major in college. To many people that would be a joke since it is a social science. He's now making about 100k a year working for a company that deals with the rail industry (conrail, csx, norfolksouthern etc). How many railroad companies are there? How many people do you know that have worked for the rail industry (commercial not passenger). The lack of access to get experience means in lieu of that a degree holds importance.

How many people at lowes came from other chains? I worked with a ton from Best Buy and Circuit City. I've heard of districts staffed with ex Kmart workers!

Lowes is probably not going to change for the better (maybe for worse!). Basically don't get into jobs that have huge labor pools with next to no standards for work. Of course no one received a decent wage increase as there's probably millions that can do the same job. When you have a low qualification line and you hit bad times people start coming from other areas to work there. Well what happens when things pick back up..they start leaving and that's what has happened.

Lowes is tied to the housing market. The housing market is not going to comeback any time soon. Housing is going to be the LAST industry to come back in the economy. Here's a chart of prices
http://woodonfire.files.wordpress.com/2012/01... Yes prices are down and interest rates are low but the job market isn't and banks won't lend to people without a more secure employment. New store openings were rare and the only way for open spots to exist is if someone quits, gets fired or passes away.

The only think to take away from lowes is to learn to use the power equipment. Maybe try to get into lumber and drive the forklift since it is used there constantly at least that is some experience that can be useful.

If you are looking for work there's some places that are always hiring. Here's a few:

fast food

wait staff

ok something with more pay.

collection agencies - there's been push to collect student debt with significant incentives

financial services - selling of life insurance, annuities etc - New York Life and MetLife come to mind

If you don't mind being cold and using your arms a butcher job can be a decent one to find without a degree
NewBee

Van Alstyne, TX

#2 May 27, 2012
It is all about to change! A new era is coming! For you cannot keep going on the same track or it will be a home repair walmart, with the same kind of help and if that happens walmart will win the game. So the swing to be the best full service home building and repair supply center will start changing this year. Pay will increase for those with experence, more control will be given to department managers. We will have more support, with people to clean, stock, and get carts (there are people who's skills are needed at thes levels as well as less skilled upper managment puppets are found to not contribute to the bottom line they are like ghost employees and can not keep milking it out for ever, the powers that be are coming to the great awakeing. Great thing are coming and I am one of the few that will be helping with the changes (dont be Skeered)

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#3 May 27, 2012
nedm wrote:
The reason why lowes is bad to work for, why conditions are pretty poor, pay is bad and bennies is mostly because...it's retail.
It isn't that hard to set up a store and frankly the majority of positions require little training/expertise (yes there is the pros but how many are there per store?). How many retail chains are there out there? Plenty. What items/services does lowes have that you cannot find at another store? Probably none since hd does just about everything lowes does. Are the items at lowes cheaper? Better hours? Selection? Website? Nope.
I have a friend who was a sociology major in college. To many people that would be a joke since it is a social science. He's now making about 100k a year working for a company that deals with the rail industry (conrail, csx, norfolksouthern etc). How many railroad companies are there? How many people do you know that have worked for the rail industry (commercial not passenger). The lack of access to get experience means in lieu of that a degree holds importance.
How many people at lowes came from other chains? I worked with a ton from Best Buy and Circuit City. I've heard of districts staffed with ex Kmart workers!
Lowes is probably not going to change for the better (maybe for worse!). Basically don't get into jobs that have huge labor pools with next to no standards for work. Of course no one received a decent wage increase as there's probably millions that can do the same job. When you have a low qualification line and you hit bad times people start coming from other areas to work there. Well what happens when things pick back up..they start leaving and that's what has happened.
Lowes is tied to the housing market. The housing market is not going to comeback any time soon. Housing is going to be the LAST industry to come back in the economy. Here's a chart of prices
http://woodonfire.files.wordpress.com/2012/01... Yes prices are down and interest rates are low but the job market isn't and banks won't lend to people without a more secure employment. New store openings were rare and the only way for open spots to exist is if someone quits, gets fired or passes away.
The only think to take away from lowes is to learn to use the power equipment. Maybe try to get into lumber and drive the forklift since it is used there constantly at least that is some experience that can be useful.
If you are looking for work there's some places that are always hiring. Here's a few:
fast food
wait staff
ok something with more pay.
collection agencies - there's been push to collect student debt with significant incentives
financial services - selling of life insurance, annuities etc - New York Life and MetLife come to mind
If you don't mind being cold and using your arms a butcher job can be a decent one to find without a degree
Dude, while you were posting that I was with your girlfriend. She's a really good sport.
hands on

Mooresville, NC

#4 May 27, 2012
exmanager wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, while you were posting that I was with your girlfriend. She's a really good sport.
you really expect anyone to believe this bitch would have a girlfriend.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#5 May 27, 2012
hands on wrote:
<quoted text>you really expect anyone to believe this bitch would have a girlfriend.
Yeah, comes with a foot pump.
nedm

Pembroke, MA

#6 May 27, 2012
ex instead of being insulting how about you either make a decent argument or discuss any of the points that I have mentioned? Is that too hard for you to accept?!?

"A new era is coming!"

New Era already exists
http://www.neweracap.com/Locator.aspx
or did you mean the detergent?
http://www.eradetergent.com/

"For you cannot keep going on the same track or it will be a home repair walmart, with the same kind of help and if that happens walmart will win the game."

What game? Walmart didn't put target out of business. Sam's Club didn't put BJ's or Costco out of business. How is it different from a home repair walmart at this point?

"So the swing to be the best full service home building and repair supply center will start changing this year."

What exactly do you mean by "full service". Having a delivery department isn't that much of a service as even walmart delivers now..heck so does CVS. Installs are getting harder with the economy and we all know spiffs and sos went away. If you can order at ATG at home why bother going into the store??

"Pay will increase for those with experence, more control will be given to department managers."

To what metric and what extend would "experience" be measured by? Blind faith is not a good example of how to measure. You'd have to have some competency tests like other industries. An example of that would be the NRHA
http://www.nrha.org/v2/Training/ Simply having experience doesn't mean that the employees knows how to do something. I know of stores that are busy and ones that are slow. I'll take anyone from a busy store over a slow one any day of the week.

"We will have more support, with people to clean, stock, and get carts (there are people who's skills are needed at thes levels as well as less skilled upper managment puppets are found to not contribute to the bottom line they are like ghost employees and can not keep milking it out for ever, the powers that be are coming to the great awakeing."

That's a pretty long sentence but anyways there's no reason to give more support. Whose not who's. Getting carts is not a skill, same with cleaning and stocking as anyone can do that.

"Great thing are coming and I am one of the few that will be helping with the changes (dont be Skeered)"

Huh? Corporate does not own a significant percentage of the company and those organizations that do own small amounts. No one is at the wheel of this place.

Since: May 12

Altoona, PA

#7 May 29, 2012
This ship is going down fast. between the looting and the "i dont care either", i love watching it all go down. Now the SM and his clique are all padding their seats. HR is useless and has regional buffaloed and our LP is useless too. they never catch shoplifters even if the worst ones are the employees. bet theyre sorry now they took spiffs away and lowered morale to the negative numbers scale. Im just filling hours until its my time to get canned. dont worry about severence. hahaha. Hey Robert I helped 3 people in my 8hr shift. hope i made you some dough.
Thatoneguy

Cape Girardeau, MO

#8 May 29, 2012
Sorry you feel that way jtown, your stores leadership must not be doing well to motivate their team. Although this is a low point in the company i still feel obligated to serve customers just out of respect for them and what little bonus my fellow workers have left. The effects of the changes have made an impact and the stores that had issues with their culture have only gotten worse. Thankfully we were strong before this and continue to be. You dont have to blindly follow the company and their plan but i feel as employees and people we do owe the customers a certain level of respect for coming in our doors. Good luck and i hope things get better for you. If your store leadership is that timid and scared of being removed then that says alot about them.

Since: May 12

Altoona, PA

#9 May 29, 2012
thanks thatoneguy. If our store was an army platoon we would shoot the SM and win the war

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