IAC Greencastle
Bush

Montmorenci, IN

#132 Mar 19, 2009
Ex-Greencastle wrote:
Ouch, that's kind of mean, don't you think? Uneducated morons that don't understand business always blame poor management when lay offs occur. It's actually GOOD management to reduce the labor force when you don't need it. Should they just keep you employed for your pleasant personality?
Funny " I heard today that salary was being asked if anybody might be interested in voluntarily for a couple of weeks off coming up?
Bush

Montmorenci, IN

#133 Mar 19, 2009
your daddy wrote:
bush, gaston, gc mgmt... all a bunch of retarded idiots. gc mcmt, you've run the place into the ground with ill logic and no idea how to run a yard sale, much less a hundred million dollar factory. gaston, not worth wasting my time on a coke head queer. bush, good luck cleaning the cars on the lemon sellers lot. see all of you in the unemployment line. ha, ha, you're all getting what you finally wanted, "shut it down".
You sound like a corporate retard or one of our skilled trades. I will say this" If buisness is slow"""" " & you have operators,Mold techs,Skilled trades, Tool & die ,setting around on their asses or doing some bullshit broom pushing shit in the plant mandatory them off! Everybody knows this cleaning business is a f--king waste! I always like the comment from skilled trades that" IF NOTHING IS BROKE """I DONT HAVE NOTHING TO DO!!!!!!!!.Wow like nothing is f--king broke? Heres a hint,summer time is coming & we don't have enough fans? Why don't some of you a$$holes get to working on that one!!!!!!
Bush

Montmorenci, IN

#134 Mar 24, 2009
your daddy wrote:
bush, gaston, gc mgmt... all a bunch of retarded idiots. gc mcmt, you've run the place into the ground with ill logic and no idea how to run a yard sale, much less a hundred million dollar factory. gaston, not worth wasting my time on a coke head queer. bush, good luck cleaning the cars on the lemon sellers lot. see all of you in the unemployment line. ha, ha, you're all getting what you finally wanted, "shut it down".
A 100 Million operation huh? Care to pass your crack pipe? Your not smart enough to be a salary or skilled trades.
Jim Gaston

Natick, MA

#135 Mar 26, 2009
your daddy wrote:
bush, gaston, gc mgmt... all a bunch of retarded idiots. gc mcmt, you've run the place into the ground with ill logic and no idea how to run a yard sale, much less a hundred million dollar factory. gaston, not worth wasting my time on a coke head queer. bush, good luck cleaning the cars on the lemon sellers lot. see all of you in the unemployment line. ha, ha, you're all getting what you finally wanted, "shut it down".
Chill out dude. I'll get you a cleaning job too for your sorry ass.
X Lear

Natick, MA

#136 Mar 31, 2009
The final nail is being driven in the IAC Greencastle coffin. RIP
Bush

Montmorenci, IN

#137 Apr 3, 2009
Didnt your dad die here recently, sorry about your loss.
We The People

Whitestown, IN

#138 Apr 4, 2009
This was emailed to me this morning. I have to post it in two parts because it is to many characters.
Our meeting with IAC took place at the UAW/Ford Training Center in Detroit today (4/3/09 @ 1pm. Present at the meeting was Steve Winslow, Jason Waller, Harry Lawson, Terry Sutherlin, Jerry Boller, Nolan Costin, Director Mo Davison, Asst Director Mark Ferrel, Fuzz Lemay, Ric Issacson, many other Barg Committees from other locals as well as Jim Kamsickas, Jeff Freiberger, Jim Kepler from IAC.
Jim got up and gave a powerpoint presentation. He said that sales have dropped by 6 million units in one year. Current sales forecast 8.1 million in sales for 2009 or a 41 % reduction in sales. Credit markets are drying up. Their banks are refusing to extend anymore money unless concessions are made. IAC wants to renegotiate with ALL 12 IAC plant and have new agreements in place by April 30th. Concessions are plant specific and were not shared with us at this meeting. They said that if this doesn't happen banks will cut off their money and they will go bankrupt. Jim said his next scheduled meeting with the banks is on April 15th and he has to prove to them this is in the process. I asked Jim where the proof was that the story he was telling us was true and was told by Vice-President Bob King, UAW Attorney Jeff S, and Ric Issacson they had seen IAC Financial books and they wouldn't have agreed to bring us all together if they didn't believe it was true. They want to dispatch several teams to do multiple contracts at once. He said Ross has already pumped more money into the plants and will not continue to throw more money at a nonprofitable venture. They then went thru a slide on salary concessions that I will not type right now do to time constraints. They have broken the plants into two groups. Group A: Huron, OH - Madisonville, KY - Mendon, MI - Port Huron, MI - and Wauseon, OH. This group represents the most viable plants. If these plants agree to take concessions, their jobs are safe. Group B: Greencastle, IN - Lebanon, VA - Sheboygan, WI - Sidney, OH - Strasburg, VA - St. Clair, MI - Warren, MI are plants whose future is up in the air. If they agree to take concessions, the new contract will be shelved (like they did with Edinburgh) and they will not activate the new contract unless they decide to keep the plant open. Which means hypothetically we would continue our current benefits and wages until they either close us or put new work in the plant. They said they were doing this because they didn't want to ask any anyone to take concessions and then close their plant a month later.
We The People

Whitestown, IN

#139 Apr 4, 2009
One of the UAW attorneys said he was reviewing IAC's financial books as part of the profit sharing agreement. He noticed 71 million allocated for restructuring. He pressed for what it was for and IAC's financial guys told him it was in the works to shut 4 plants maybe more. Kamsickas then said they were currently quoting 100 million in new business. Bob King then interjected also and said that the International Vice-Presidents have been pressuring Ford, GM, and Chrysler to put their work in our plants as other suppliers go bankrupt. After some questions from the UAW people in attendance. Bob King stood up and told Jim Kamsickas per our consensus in the room the UAW was not willing to discuss any further wage and benefit reductions. He offered to bring in a group to look at ways the company could save money in the plant and modifying some language, but not by affecting anyone's pay. We broke for a time and Steve approached Jim Kepler to discuss the large amount of salaried people in our plant. Jim told him Greencastle had a lot of issues like quality and they were looking at Greencastle closely. Steve said he got the impression that we were on the chopping block. He told us this back at our table and Fuzz said Freiburger had alluded to the same thing with him. We then had a UAW only meeting to discuss strategy on how to tackle this situation. I will not email details of this out because I don't want written copies of it out where management can get a hold of it. We have requested IAC come in next week to give this same presentation to everyone this upcoming week. As soon as I verify the day they are available to do this, I will be trying to get the airport hanger to do some meetings. That way all of you can hear what we heard, and make an informed decision for yourself. Hard Times ahead guys! I just literally got home from Detroit, and I'm going to crash....Sorry if I rambled on, but I wanted to get this out ASAP. I will try to follow up tomorrow...Jason
We The People

Whitestown, IN

#140 Apr 4, 2009
Our meeting with IAC took place at the UAW/Ford Training Center in Detroit today (4/3/09 @ 1pm. Present at the meeting was Steve Winslow, Jason Waller, Harry Lawson, Terry Sutherlin, Jerry Boller, Nolan Costin, Director Mo Davison, Asst Director Mark Ferrel, Fuzz Lemay, Ric Issacson, many other Barg Committees from other locals as well as Jim Kamsickas, Jeff Freiberger, Jim Kepler from IAC.

Jim got up and gave a powerpoint presentation. He said that sales have dropped by 6 million units in one year. Current sales forecast 8.1 million in sales for 2009 or a 41 % reduction in sales. Credit markets are drying up. Their banks are refusing to extend anymore money unless concessions are made. IAC wants to renegotiate with ALL 12 IAC plant and have new agreements in place by April 30th. Concessions are plant specific and were not shared with us at this meeting. They said that if this doesn't happen banks will cut off their money and they will go bankrupt. Jim said his next scheduled meeting with the banks is on April 15th and he has to prove to them this is in the process. I asked Jim where the proof was that the story he was telling us was true and was told by Vice-President Bob King, UAW Attorney Jeff S, and Ric Issacson they had seen IAC Financial books and they wouldn't have agreed to bring us all together if they didn't believe it was true. They want to dispatch several teams to do multiple contracts at once. He said Ross has already pumped more money into the plants and will not continue to throw more money at a nonprofitable venture. They then went thru a slide on salary concessions that I will not type right now do to time constraints. They have broken the plants into two groups. Group A: Huron, OH - Madisonville, KY - Mendon, MI - Port Huron, MI - and Wauseon, OH. This group represents the most viable plants. If these plants agree to take concessions, their jobs are safe. Group B: Greencastle, IN - Lebanon, VA - Sheboygan, WI - Sidney, OH - Strasburg, VA - St. Clair, MI - Warren, MI are plants whose future is up in the air. If they agree to take concessions, the new contract will be shelved (like they did with Edinburgh) and they will not activate the new contract unless they decide to keep the plant open. Which means hypothetically we would continue our current benefits and wages until they either close us or put new work in the plant. They said they were doing this because they didn't want to ask any anyone to take concessions and then close their plant a month later.
We The People

Whitestown, IN

#141 Apr 4, 2009
I tried to post this in two because it was too many characters and one is not showing up. If it does not later I will try again. This was a email from one of Greencastle's bargaining boys.
LMB

Lima, OH

#142 Apr 4, 2009
We The People wrote:
Our meeting with IAC took place at the UAW/Ford Training Center in Detroit today (4/3/09 @ 1pm. Present at the meeting was Steve Winslow, Jason Waller, Harry Lawson, Terry Sutherlin, Jerry Boller, Nolan Costin, Director Mo Davison, Asst Director Mark Ferrel, Fuzz Lemay, Ric Issacson, many other Barg Committees from other locals as well as Jim Kamsickas, Jeff Freiberger, Jim Kepler from IAC.
Jim got up and gave a powerpoint presentation. He said that sales have dropped by 6 million units in one year. Current sales forecast 8.1 million in sales for 2009 or a 41 % reduction in sales. Credit markets are drying up. Their banks are refusing to extend anymore money unless concessions are made. IAC wants to renegotiate with ALL 12 IAC plant and have new agreements in place by April 30th. Concessions are plant specific and were not shared with us at this meeting. They said that if this doesn't happen banks will cut off their money and they will go bankrupt. Jim said his next scheduled meeting with the banks is on April 15th and he has to prove to them this is in the process. I asked Jim where the proof was that the story he was telling us was true and was told by Vice-President Bob King, UAW Attorney Jeff S, and Ric Issacson they had seen IAC Financial books and they wouldn't have agreed to bring us all together if they didn't believe it was true. They want to dispatch several teams to do multiple contracts at once. He said Ross has already pumped more money into the plants and will not continue to throw more money at a nonprofitable venture. They then went thru a slide on salary concessions that I will not type right now do to time constraints. They have broken the plants into two groups. Group A: Huron, OH - Madisonville, KY - Mendon, MI - Port Huron, MI - and Wauseon, OH. This group represents the most viable plants. If these plants agree to take concessions, their jobs are safe. Group B: Greencastle, IN - Lebanon, VA - Sheboygan, WI - Sidney, OH - Strasburg, VA - St. Clair, MI - Warren, MI are plants whose future is up in the air. If they agree to take concessions, the new contract will be shelved (like they did with Edinburgh) and they will not activate the new contract unless they decide to keep the plant open. Which means hypothetically we would continue our current benefits and wages until they either close us or put new work in the plant. They said they were doing this because they didn't want to ask any anyone to take concessions and then close their plant a month later.
Thank You for posting that !!

Since: Mar 07

AOL

#143 Apr 4, 2009
to we the people. You dont have iacna Iowa City on your list.
Curious

North Tazewell, VA

#144 Apr 4, 2009
Thank you so much for posting the highlights of the meeting you had with the big dogs. We were made aware in Lebanon that "something" was going on Thursday, when our reps were summoned to Detroit also. We were also aware that the outcome of the meeting would "NOT" be good. Thanks again for confirming what we pretty much expected here in Lebanon. I'm sure we'll be getting information from our reps as early as next week, but I hope you will continue to keep us informed as to what is going on there in Greencastle also since we're both in Group B.
masland

Loveland, OH

#145 Apr 4, 2009
We The People wrote:
This was emailed to me this morning. I have to post it in two parts because it is to many characters.
Our meeting with IAC took place at the UAW/Ford Training Center in Detroit today (4/3/09 @ 1pm. Present at the meeting was Steve Winslow, Jason Waller, Harry Lawson, Terry Sutherlin, Jerry Boller, Nolan Costin, Director Mo Davison, Asst Director Mark Ferrel, Fuzz Lemay, Ric Issacson, many other Barg Committees from other locals as well as Jim Kamsickas, Jeff Freiberger, Jim Kepler from IAC.
Jim got up and gave a powerpoint presentation. He said that sales have dropped by 6 million units in one year. Current sales forecast 8.1 million in sales for 2009 or a 41 % reduction in sales. Credit markets are drying up. Their banks are refusing to extend anymore money unless concessions are made. IAC wants to renegotiate with ALL 12 IAC plant and have new agreements in place by April 30th. Concessions are plant specific and were not shared with us at this meeting. They said that if this doesn't happen banks will cut off their money and they will go bankrupt. Jim said his next scheduled meeting with the banks is on April 15th and he has to prove to them this is in the process. I asked Jim where the proof was that the story he was telling us was true and was told by Vice-President Bob King, UAW Attorney Jeff S, and Ric Issacson they had seen IAC Financial books and they wouldn't have agreed to bring us all together if they didn't believe it was true. They want to dispatch several teams to do multiple contracts at once. He said Ross has already pumped more money into the plants and will not continue to throw more money at a nonprofitable venture. They then went thru a slide on salary concessions that I will not type right now do to time constraints. They have broken the plants into two groups. Group A: Huron, OH - Madisonville, KY - Mendon, MI - Port Huron, MI - and Wauseon, OH. This group represents the most viable plants. If these plants agree to take concessions, their jobs are safe. Group B: Greencastle, IN - Lebanon, VA - Sheboygan, WI - Sidney, OH - Strasburg, VA - St. Clair, MI - Warren, MI are plants whose future is up in the air. If they agree to take concessions, the new contract will be shelved (like they did with Edinburgh) and they will not activate the new contract unless they decide to keep the plant open. Which means hypothetically we would continue our current benefits and wages until they either close us or put new work in the plant. They said they were doing this because they didn't want to ask any anyone to take concessions and then close their plant a month later.
Thanks for the information.

Since: Feb 07

SANDUSKY OHIO

#146 Apr 4, 2009
i can only guess FREMONT is not on the list becouse we just radified a new contract that went into effect april 1. i thought rich zeff said he was headed to iowa city after he got done with us two weeks ago that might explain why you are not on the list either. if you have any more info about fremont i would appreciate it though. i have been hearing rumors about some big kaizan we are having in our plant at the end of the month that is supposed to include about 50 people from corporate and other plants if you have any info on that i would appreciate that also.

Since: Mar 07

AOL

#147 Apr 4, 2009
they are in our plant again asking for consesions again. there is to be a vote this tuesday wether to talk to them or wait until next march when the contract is up. I dont think they are going to wait till march. When we were lear last contract we took concessions and last year uncle wilburs boys wanted a little more and we bent over again. Everybody is scared and will probably cavein again. were down to a starting wage of 13.00 nothing over 13.50 exept maint. and mold setters. no more pension less health insur. less dental. etc.our plant is full of contracts. but it does little good with no sales. They brought in work from collins-aikmans (corvette) cadence LLC (new camero) were about one half dependent on Belvedere. Ill. (caliber-compas)
We The People

Whitestown, IN

#148 Apr 5, 2009
Curious wrote:
Thank you so much for posting the highlights of the meeting you had with the big dogs. We were made aware in Lebanon that "something" was going on Thursday, when our reps were summoned to Detroit also. We were also aware that the outcome of the meeting would "NOT" be good. Thanks again for confirming what we pretty much expected here in Lebanon. I'm sure we'll be getting information from our reps as early as next week, but I hope you will continue to keep us informed as to what is going on there in Greencastle also since we're both in Group B.
Just to clarify I was not at the meeting. The letter that I posted was emailed to me. I thought it was important that we all know what is going on. We all got a lot to think about.
see u not

Jefferson, OH

#149 Apr 5, 2009
We The People, Thank You for posting its not sounding good but again thanks
screwed in Sheboygan

Oak Creek, WI

#150 Apr 5, 2009
I guess it doesn't matter if you made a profit last year or not.
LEBIACNAVA

AOL

#151 Apr 5, 2009
We The People wrote:
<quoted text>Just to clarify I was not at the meeting. The letter that I posted was emailed to me. I thought it was important that we all know what is going on. We all got a lot to think about.
Thank you for the information. Here on the topix is the only place it seems we can hear of any type of info. We sure aren't told anything from our work place. Let's try to hope for the best for everyone involved in IAC at the present for it seems things will only get bleaker.

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